Damage Rank based on 60-second Score attack v1.1.x

[brunolm]

S (over 50M): Narmaya
A (upper 40M): Eugen
B (lower 40M): Katalina, Gran/Djeeta
C (upper 30M): Zeta, Charlotta
D (lower 30M): Ghandagoza
F (upper 20M): Siegfried
Unknown: Vaseraga, Percival, Cagliostro, Io, Vane, Lancelot, Yordaha, Ferry, Id, Rosetta

Narmaya: 52.1M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DogbNB-Xah0
Eugen: 47.5M https://youtu.be/Le62Qxx2nHM
Katalina: 42.2M (Discord)
Gran/Djeeta: 41.6M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3az2sx_VZ6o
Zeta: 38.3M (Discord)
Charlotta: 35.8M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqFHahroeks
Ghandagoza: 31.5M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccO-AMZVZoo
Siegfried: 27M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZI5C28nr43U
Rackam:
Vaseraga:
Percival:
Cagliostro:
Io:
Vane:
Lancelot:
Yodarha:
Ferry:
Id:
Rosetta:

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## Real Fight DPS Tier List

Tier list based on damage done in real fights. Because some chars have some benefits against certain bosses the Tier List varies by boss.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rf71ai45zPXpncRWH_xAETNojdB-dtKbcliD2ONJPjs/edit#gid=1825832650

[brunolm]

v1.0.x
https://steamcommunity.com/app/881020/discussions/0/7198510808237715908/?ctp=5

DPS Parser
https://github.com/brunolm/gbfr-parser

[Renka]

thanks a lot for the dps meter and all the data

[BigCheese]

I love these data threads.

[yamface]

FWIW someone posted a 180k dps zeta on lucilius:

https://old.reddit.com/r/GranblueFantasyRelink/comments/1bk31y1/zeta_against_lucilius_feedback_wbuild_and_dps/

I wish the spreadsheet had a way to weight the dps numbers since anything above 200k dps is unrealistic outside of premades etc. Most skilled players would do around 170-180k dps in pugs. Over 200k dps means the group skipped multiple crucial intermissions that would've normally dragged the numbers down a lot.

[brunolm]

Originally posted by yamface:

FWIW someone posted a 180k dps zeta on lucilius:

https://old.reddit.com/r/GranblueFantasyRelink/comments/1bk31y1/zeta_against_lucilius_feedback_wbuild_and_dps/

I wish the spreadsheet had a way to weight the dps numbers since anything above 200k dps is unrealistic outside of premades etc. Most skilled players would do around 170-180k dps in pugs. Over 200k dps means the group skipped multiple crucial intermissions that would've normally dragged the numbers down a lot.

The tab "TierList" shows the highest results, but you can still go to the boss tab and look at each individual fight result.

You can exclude anything that's an outlier and draw your own conclusions etc...

[Dorakyura]

oh, you made a new thread.
I did a 42.2m with Katalina, didn't make a video as its using the extact same rotation as my last one.
Screenshot and parse is in the katalina chat on the Community Discord server. (one of the first posts after the new channels were created)

Hopefully not that many Katalina doom sayers in this one.

[Schnarchnase]

145k DPS on Vane sounds wrong.
His DPS is far lower, less than half of Lancelot's.
Vane severly lacks attack speed to have a noticeable DPS. Especially with Beatdown.

[Kobi Blade]

It’s worth noting that testing against the dummy doesn’t account for the dynamic nature of boss fights, where numerous variables come into play. The dummy serves well for practice, but is not indicative of a real battle scenario.

I do recognize the challenge in obtaining consistent damage numbers across characters in boss fights due to these variables.

That said, in my personal experience, I’ve consistently achieved MVP and top damage in battles against Lucilius with Cagliostro, which seems to contradict the tier list’s claims.

So please consider the tier list and damage numbers with a bit of skepticism and fun.

[brunolm]

Originally posted by Dorakyura:

oh, you made a new thread.
I did a 42.2m with Katalina, didn't make a video as its using the extact same rotation as my last one.
Screenshot and parse is in the katalina chat on the Community Discord server. (one of the first posts after the new channels were created)

Hopefully not that many Katalina doom sayers in this one.

oh nice, thanks, I've updated it!

[brunolm]

Originally posted by Kobi Blade:

It’s worth noting that testing against the dummy doesn’t account for the dynamic nature of boss fights, where numerous variables come into play. The dummy serves well for practice, but is not indicative of a real battle scenario.

I do recognize the challenge in obtaining consistent damage numbers across characters in boss fights due to these variables.

That said, in my personal experience, I’ve consistently achieved MVP and top damage in battles against Lucilius with Cagliostro, which seems to contradict the tier list’s claims.

So please consider the tier list and damage numbers with a bit of skepticism and fun.

Please stop spreading false information. It has been proven multiple times that buffs, heals, potions alone can get you MVP with practically 0 damage (we've seen someone with -60M damage get MVP).
https://youtu.be/9ef6lS03q0Q?si=8tGtiSMrG57YkGpD&t=599

When you say TOP DPS on Lucilius, are you looking at a parser or honor points?

Vaseraga is by far one of the TOP DPS pre-patch and post-patch.

You can find Tier List by boss for current patch in here (we're still collecting data):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rf71ai45zPXpncRWH_xAETNojdB-dtKbcliD2ONJPjs/edit#gid=1825832650

Or the Tier List by boss for the previous patch, which we have a ton of data on:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nRDG56a3OUf5gL3Yyq5iSsQ2dkjSyE9Tmq3J5uuf2Wg/edit?usp=sharing

[アラ]

don't put cheese , mod , something can't happen in real fight on Tier list pls
IE. some RNG proc with 100% proc on DMG Rank

[Kobi Blade]

Originally posted by brunolm (神 Knx):

Originally posted by Kobi Blade:

It’s worth noting that testing against the dummy doesn’t account for the dynamic nature of boss fights, where numerous variables come into play. The dummy serves well for practice, but is not indicative of a real battle scenario.

I do recognize the challenge in obtaining consistent damage numbers across characters in boss fights due to these variables.

That said, in my personal experience, I’ve consistently achieved MVP and top damage in battles against Lucilius with Cagliostro, which seems to contradict the tier list’s claims.

So please consider the tier list and damage numbers with a bit of skepticism and fun.

Please stop spreading false information. It has been proven multiple times that buffs, heals, potions alone can get you MVP with practically 0 damage (we've seen someone with -60M damage get MVP).
https://youtu.be/9ef6lS03q0Q?si=8tGtiSMrG57YkGpD&t=599

When you say TOP DPS on Lucilius, are you looking at a parser or honor points?

Vaseraga is by far one of the TOP DPS pre-patch and post-patch.

You can find Tier List by boss for current patch in here (we're still collecting data):
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Rf71ai45zPXpncRWH_xAETNojdB-dtKbcliD2ONJPjs/edit#gid=1825832650

Or the Tier List by boss for the previous patch, which we have a ton of data on:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nRDG56a3OUf5gL3Yyq5iSsQ2dkjSyE9Tmq3J5uuf2Wg/edit?usp=sharing

I believe constructive feedback is more beneficial than your petty insults, it’s worth noting that many players use parser, including myself.

I made it quite clear that I achieved not only MVP but also top damage in the battle multiple times. This suggests that the tier list might not fully reflect real-world scenarios and should perhaps be considered with a measure of skepticism.

It appears that Cagliostro's data may be based on ranged combat metrics (is the only explanation I have for such low values). Cagliostro’s strengths are more pronounced in close-range combat, complemented by their high mobility.

[Angelym]

Originally posted by Schnarchnase:

145k DPS on Vane sounds wrong.
His DPS is far lower, less than half of Lancelot's.
Vane severly lacks attack speed to have a noticeable DPS. Especially with Beatdown.

140k is my average DPS with Vane on Luci. You drop Beatdown anyway, it's a DPS loss compared to his XXYY -> ED combo spam (I only use Beatdown for extra stun if the team is struggling to skip a Paradise Lost cast or to trigger link time).

[brunolm]

oh, hey guys, look how high is Cag's DPS https://imgur.com/a/p57XqUi

[Vanosea]

Originally posted by アラ:

don't put cheese , mod , something can't happen in real fight on Tier list pls
IE. some RNG proc with 100% proc on DMG Rank

The fact that Narmaya is in the 50mil range in the first place indicates the post wasn't made in good faith. Due to her butterfly RNG, it hovers between 32 to that unrealistic high 50. In a real fight though, Narmaya's real dps is much lower in average. Beaten by Vaseraga, Vane and Charlotta often. On par with Cagliostro and Zeta in most case.

But hey. beeg numbers mean beeg dps right? (don't look into the build/run resets done from the score attack though.) I guess we all should shame all non Narmaya user according to this thread.