Best map to farm curio quick ?

[alone_boy00730]

Anyone know which map to farm curio quick with AI around 17k please I plan to farm 100 of them then open for supper war elemental dps

[みさかりん]

If you just want curios then just any maniac quest that you can do the fastest. If you are after Sup V+ then you have to do proud difficulty only since base on the data mined findings, only proud quest curio type D can have those.

If you ask for me personal opinion, I'd farm materials together with curios since it may take you awhile to get War elemental and Supplementary V for 4 people. If you just want for your main then do the above.

[ZexxCrine]

Originally posted by みさかりん:

If you just want curios then just any maniac quest that you can do the fastest. If you are after Sup V+ then you have to do proud difficulty only since base on the data mined findings, only proud quest curio type D can have those.

If you ask for me personal opinion, I'd farm materials together with curios since it may take you awhile to get War elemental and Supplementary V for 4 people. If you just want for your main then do the above.

thats not true. you have to unlock proud difficulty before a tier 4 curio will drop the v+ sigils. they can drop on maniac

[みさかりん]

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

Originally posted by みさかりん:

If you just want curios then just any maniac quest that you can do the fastest. If you are after Sup V+ then you have to do proud difficulty only since base on the data mined findings, only proud quest curio type D can have those.

If you ask for me personal opinion, I'd farm materials together with curios since it may take you awhile to get War elemental and Supplementary V for 4 people. If you just want for your main then do the above.

thats not true. you have to unlock proud difficulty before a tier 4 curio will drop the v+ sigils. they can drop on maniac

If you read carefully what I just stated, it has the same meaning as what you have said.

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

v+ sigils. they can drop on maniac

I did mention specifically Supplementary V+ right? If you also mean Sup V+ alone, give me a proof that it can drop on maniac because base on countless data mined threads that I've read, all points out to proud having it drop. To make it clear "base" I am not assuming, I am not pointing out its 100% accurate, I merely stated the facts that others have pointed out since I only got 1 of the rare sigils which is Untouchable + by doing only proud difficulty. Out of my 4k+ cleared quest, probably almost half was spend on farming and upgrading all characters Terminus weapon on maniac difficulty and not even once I got one of those rare sigils. Was this coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. If you want to complain that their data mined and testing were false, then by all means raise your suspicion and complaints to them.

[brunolm]

Blazing Trial: Firewyrm

Good group can do this Proud mission in 15 seconds

[ZexxCrine]

Originally posted by みさかりん:

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

thats not true. you have to unlock proud difficulty before a tier 4 curio will drop the v+ sigils. they can drop on maniac

If you read carefully what I just stated, it has the same meaning as what you have said.

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

v+ sigils. they can drop on maniac

I did mention specifically Supplementary V+ right? If you also mean Sup V+ alone, give me a proof that it can drop on maniac because base on countless data mined threads that I've read, all points out to proud having it drop. To make it clear "base" I am not assuming, I am not pointing out its 100% accurate, I merely stated the facts that others have pointed out since I only got 1 of the rare sigils which is Untouchable + by doing only proud difficulty. Out of my 4k+ cleared quest, probably almost half was spend on farming and upgrading all characters Terminus weapon on maniac difficulty and not even once I got one of those rare sigils. Was this coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. If you want to complain that their data mined and testing were false, then by all means raise your suspicion and complaints to them.

no your post doesn't say that and you realized it later. you could just look at the document you are referencing yourself instead of continuing to parrot information without actually doing your own research and spreading misinformation because of it.

Here is the drop table https://nenkai.github.io/relink-modding/resources/quest_drop_rates/

here is the curio table https://nenkai.github.io/relink-modding/resources/curio_loot_rates/

here is even a video that breaks it down for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4znweBxn50Y.

once you rank up your curio loot table changes permenantly. once it changes to the proud loot table you do not have to play on proud you just need to get tier 4 curios. maniac and proud have the highest chances but maniac quests can be beaten much much faster on average so the slight decrease in tier 4 curios chance is negligent over a large sample size.

and just for good measure here is a maniac quest saying it drops tier 4 curios https://i.imgur.com/qJQ6Wae.png

so you could farm i see a grim vision in literal 20 seconds for a 2.4% chance per run or pyet-a for 2-5 minute runs for 3% chance. your choice

[ZexxCrine]

Originally posted by brunolm (神 Knx):

Blazing Trial: Firewyrm

Good group can do this Proud mission in 15 seconds

yeah if you are cheating. average time to kill for a full co-ordinated group is 40 seconds. you have to be cheating or have a party of like 4 rackums all using the jump attack build with perfect timing.

[alone_boy00730]

Originally posted by みさかりん:

If you just want curios then just any maniac quest that you can do the fastest. If you are after Sup V+ then you have to do proud difficulty only since base on the data mined findings, only proud quest curio type D can have those.

If you ask for me personal opinion, I'd farm materials together with curios since it may take you awhile to get War elemental and Supplementary V for 4 people. If you just want for your main then do the above.

curio type D ? how can I know which proud diff drop type D and yeah i just want 1 of main got sup sigil and im doing proud solo atm with team of 17k+ on 13k req quest " worst vacation"

[ZexxCrine]

Originally posted by alone_boy00730:

Originally posted by みさかりん:

If you just want curios then just any maniac quest that you can do the fastest. If you are after Sup V+ then you have to do proud difficulty only since base on the data mined findings, only proud quest curio type D can have those.

If you ask for me personal opinion, I'd farm materials together with curios since it may take you awhile to get War elemental and Supplementary V for 4 people. If you just want for your main then do the above.

curio type D ? how can I know which proud diff drop type D and yeah i just want 1 of main got sup sigil and im doing proud solo atm with team of 17k+ on 13k req quest " worst vacation"

I literally posted the drop tables.

[みさかりん]

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

Originally posted by みさかりん:

If you read carefully what I just stated, it has the same meaning as what you have said.



I did mention specifically Supplementary V+ right? If you also mean Sup V+ alone, give me a proof that it can drop on maniac because base on countless data mined threads that I've read, all points out to proud having it drop. To make it clear "base" I am not assuming, I am not pointing out its 100% accurate, I merely stated the facts that others have pointed out since I only got 1 of the rare sigils which is Untouchable + by doing only proud difficulty. Out of my 4k+ cleared quest, probably almost half was spend on farming and upgrading all characters Terminus weapon on maniac difficulty and not even once I got one of those rare sigils. Was this coincidence? Maybe, maybe not. If you want to complain that their data mined and testing were false, then by all means raise your suspicion and complaints to them.

no your post doesn't say that and you realized it later. you could just look at the document you are referencing yourself instead of continuing to parrot information without actually doing your own research and spreading misinformation because of it.

Here is the drop table https://nenkai.github.io/relink-modding/resources/quest_drop_rates/

here is the curio table https://nenkai.github.io/relink-modding/resources/curio_loot_rates/

here is even a video that breaks it down for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4znweBxn50Y.

once you rank up your curio loot table changes permenantly. once it changes to the proud loot table you do not have to play on proud you just need to get tier 4 curios. maniac and proud have the highest chances but maniac quests can be beaten much much faster on average so the slight decrease in tier 4 curios chance is negligent over a large sample size.

and just for good measure here is a maniac quest saying it drops tier 4 curios https://i.imgur.com/qJQ6Wae.png

so you could farm i see a grim vision in literal 20 seconds for a 2.4% chance per run or pyet-a for 2-5 minute runs for 3% chance. your choice

Read when you quoted my 1st statement. I specifically said "if you're after SupV+" right?
Did I said ALL DATA MINED findings? So you didn't get that I stated that therefore its automatically translated to "Data mined findings that I have read" which is also translated as not ALL right? So why couldn't you just stated that another research was done and just informed us? Was that so hard to do?

Proof meaning did someone actually got a Sup V+ on maniac difficulty? All this video do is explain the tiers and drop rate which others have already state also.

Originally posted by みさかりん:

To make it clear "base" I am not assuming, I am not pointing out its 100% accurate, I merely stated the facts that others have pointed out

If you don't have proof that someone had evidence that they got a Sup V+ in maniac then we are just pointing at the same direction. The video was just release 3 days ago and other data mined threads have existed way before this video so again we are both pointing at data mined explanation.

[ZexxCrine]

Originally posted by みさかりん:

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

no your post doesn't say that and you realized it later. you could just look at the document you are referencing yourself instead of continuing to parrot information without actually doing your own research and spreading misinformation because of it.

Here is the drop table https://nenkai.github.io/relink-modding/resources/quest_drop_rates/

here is the curio table https://nenkai.github.io/relink-modding/resources/curio_loot_rates/

here is even a video that breaks it down for you https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4znweBxn50Y.

once you rank up your curio loot table changes permenantly. once it changes to the proud loot table you do not have to play on proud you just need to get tier 4 curios. maniac and proud have the highest chances but maniac quests can be beaten much much faster on average so the slight decrease in tier 4 curios chance is negligent over a large sample size.

and just for good measure here is a maniac quest saying it drops tier 4 curios https://i.imgur.com/qJQ6Wae.png

so you could farm i see a grim vision in literal 20 seconds for a 2.4% chance per run or pyet-a for 2-5 minute runs for 3% chance. your choice

Read when you quoted my 1st statement. I specifically said "if you're after SupV+" right?
Did I said ALL DATA MINED findings? So you didn't get that I stated that therefore its automatically translated to "Data mined findings that I have read" which is also translated as not ALL right? So why couldn't you just stated that another research was done and just informed us? Was that so hard to do?

Proof meaning did someone actually got a Sup V+ on maniac difficulty?

Originally posted by みさかりん:

To make it clear "base" I am not assuming, I am not pointing out its 100% accurate, I merely stated the facts that others have pointed out

If you don't have proof that someone had evidence that they got a Sup V+ in maniac then we are just pointing at the same direction.

you have been given proof. datamining is proof. we know the values of all possible drops on all possible missions which makes it proof. you made a statment that runs explicitly antithetical to the way the system actually works, you cannot say that your statement is truth just because you want it to be. I havent done any new research at all. I simply actually read the document that you clearly haven't and when I corrected you, you immediatly assumed I was incorrect and didn't double check. you seem to be hung up on a stange bit of wording you are trying to use as a nonsensical loophole. YOU brought up supplementary damage V+ it and the other notable v+ sigils only dropping on proud was YOUR assertion. I QUOTED YOU about V+ sigils. given you ONLY brought up supplementary V+ I must CLEARLY when refuting YOUR STATEMENT be talking about supplementary damage V+ that YOU brought up. The document itself contradicts you not the video. I only posted the video because it explains it.

you can go ahead wasting your time in proud missions though.

[みさかりん]

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

Originally posted by みさかりん:

Read when you quoted my 1st statement. I specifically said "if you're after SupV+" right?
Did I said ALL DATA MINED findings? So you didn't get that I stated that therefore its automatically translated to "Data mined findings that I have read" which is also translated as not ALL right? So why couldn't you just stated that another research was done and just informed us? Was that so hard to do?

Proof meaning did someone actually got a Sup V+ on maniac difficulty?



If you don't have proof that someone had evidence that they got a Sup V+ in maniac then we are just pointing at the same direction.

you have been given proof. datamining is proof. we know the values of all possible drops on all possible missions which makes it proof. you made a statment that runs explicitly antithetical to the way the system actually works, you cannot say that your statement is truth just because you want it to be. I havent done any new research at all. I simply actually read the document that you clearly haven't and when I corrected you, you immediatly assumed I was incorrect and didn't double check. you seem to be hung up on a stange bit of wording you are trying to use as a nonsensical loophole. YOU brought up supplementary damage V+ it and the other notable v+ sigils only dropping on proud was YOUR assertion. I QUOTED YOU about V+ sigils. given you ONLY brought up supplementary V+ I must CLEARLY when refuting YOUR STATEMENT be talking about supplementary damage V+ that YOU brought up. The document itself contradicts you not the video. I only posted the video because it explains it.

you can go ahead wasting your time in proud missions though.

Mate do you have a problem with English? I STATED CLEARLY that do you have someone who as PROOF/screenshot/they stated that they got their SUP V+ on maniac difficulty? data mine are proof of some sort but like what I am stating is that, WHEN I READ ABOUT CURIO types, they stated that it was proud only difficulty that drops type D curio and what you linked is just new SO I AM NOT AWARE IF THE DATA MINED THREAD that I READ has been UPDATED. Sorry for caps, I am merely emphasizing for clarity. So if they have updated and if its common knowledge now that you can get SUP V+ in maniac then that's good and OP should choose accordingly.

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

you made a statment that runs explicitly antithetical to the way the system actually works, you cannot say that your statement is truth just because you want it to be

Mate I quoted this

Originally posted by みさかりん:

To make it clear "base" I am not assuming, I am not pointing out its 100% accurate, I merely stated the facts that others have pointed out

I will ask again. Do you have problems understanding English language? Where in my statement/sentence that I implied that the data mined you linked was not correct? I quoted this also

Originally posted by みさかりん:

Read when you quoted my 1st statement. I specifically said "if you're after SupV+" right?
Did I said ALL DATA MINED findings? So you didn't get that I stated that therefore its automatically translated to "Data mined findings that I have read" which is also translated as not ALL right? So why couldn't you just stated that another research was done and just informed us? Was that so hard to do?

which brings me again to my question. DO YOU HAVE PROBLEMS UNDERSTANDING ENGLISH? Sorry again for caps.

I will repeat again myself. As I stated previously, if you do not have proof of someone stating they got x y and z sigil in maniac, WE BOTH ARE POINTING AT THE SAME DIRECTION which are data mined done by other people WITH DIFFERENT EXPLANATION how to get the said sigil.

For crying out loud, we are conversing in basic English and not using Jargons here.

[ZexxCrine]

Originally posted by みさかりん:

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

you have been given proof. datamining is proof. we know the values of all possible drops on all possible missions which makes it proof. you made a statment that runs explicitly antithetical to the way the system actually works, you cannot say that your statement is truth just because you want it to be. I havent done any new research at all. I simply actually read the document that you clearly haven't and when I corrected you, you immediatly assumed I was incorrect and didn't double check. you seem to be hung up on a stange bit of wording you are trying to use as a nonsensical loophole. YOU brought up supplementary damage V+ it and the other notable v+ sigils only dropping on proud was YOUR assertion. I QUOTED YOU about V+ sigils. given you ONLY brought up supplementary V+ I must CLEARLY when refuting YOUR STATEMENT be talking about supplementary damage V+ that YOU brought up. The document itself contradicts you not the video. I only posted the video because it explains it.

you can go ahead wasting your time in proud missions though.

Mate do you have a problem with English? I STATED CLEARLY that do you have someone who as PROOF/screenshot/they stated that they got their SUP V+ on maniac difficulty? data mine are proof of some sort but like what I am stating is that, WHEN I READ ABOUT CURIO types, they stated that it was proud only difficulty that drops type D curio and what you linked is just new SO I AM NOT AWARE IF THE DATA MINED THREAD that I READ has been UPDATED. Sorry for caps, I am merely emphasizing for clarity. So if they have updated and if its common knowledge now that you can get SUP V+ in maniac then that's good and OP should choose accordingly.

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

you made a statment that runs explicitly antithetical to the way the system actually works, you cannot say that your statement is truth just because you want it to be

Mate I quoted this

Originally posted by みさかりん:

To make it clear "base" I am not assuming, I am not pointing out its 100% accurate, I merely stated the facts that others have pointed out

I will ask again. Do you have problems understanding English language? Where in my statement/sentence that I implied that the data mined you linked was not correct? I quoted this also

Originally posted by みさかりん:

Read when you quoted my 1st statement. I specifically said "if you're after SupV+" right?
Did I said ALL DATA MINED findings? So you didn't get that I stated that therefore its automatically translated to "Data mined findings that I have read" which is also translated as not ALL right? So why couldn't you just stated that another research was done and just informed us? Was that so hard to do?

which brings me again to my question. DO YOU HAVE PROBLEMS UNDERSTANDING ENGLISH? Sorry again for caps.

how many people do you have to ask if they understand english before you realize you are the one with a reading comprehension and communication issue?

[みさかりん]

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

Originally posted by みさかりん:

Mate do you have a problem with English? I STATED CLEARLY that do you have someone who as PROOF/screenshot/they stated that they got their SUP V+ on maniac difficulty? data mine are proof of some sort but like what I am stating is that, WHEN I READ ABOUT CURIO types, they stated that it was proud only difficulty that drops type D curio and what you linked is just new SO I AM NOT AWARE IF THE DATA MINED THREAD that I READ has been UPDATED. Sorry for caps, I am merely emphasizing for clarity. So if they have updated and if its common knowledge now that you can get SUP V+ in maniac then that's good and OP should choose accordingly.



Mate I quoted this



I will ask again. Do you have problems understanding English language? Where in my statement/sentence that I implied that the data mined you linked was not correct? I quoted this also



which brings me again to my question. DO YOU HAVE PROBLEMS UNDERSTANDING ENGLISH? Sorry again for caps.

how many people do you have to ask if they understand english before you realize you are the one with a reading comprehension issue?

Okay seems like you have a big gap when it comes to comprehending English so lets break it down.

WHERE IN MY POST did I said you were wrong and I was right? Please quote the exact words that I have used.

[Kriss Hietala]

When I learned that curios have tiers... That mad farming below proud useless

[brunolm]

Originally posted by ZexxCrine:

Originally posted by brunolm (神 Knx):

Blazing Trial: Firewyrm

Good group can do this Proud mission in 15 seconds

yeah if you are cheating. average time to kill for a full co-ordinated group is 40 seconds. you have to be cheating or have a party of like 4 rackums all using the jump attack build with perfect timing.

skill issue, unironically