Why don't cheaters just spawning a item?

[Bigboss PC Faster]

why don't they just spawning the terminus weapon and getting a perfect stats Damage Cap V+ instead of use damage hack and one shot kill boss to farm an items in multiplayer?

[Joker]

Originally posted by goodbye_bonito:

Originally posted by Joker:

bro don't draw conclusions too fast. U ever went to the JP server? I can tell you about 30% people already did the item spawning cheat in JP-server.

I almost played more than 100 maniac and proud games in JP server and around 30 proud in US server. 90% games in JP server had one or two glowing weapons players, i don't count if it's a fking Ascension weapon or baha-endgame weapon, the fact is, in US server, I only see no more than 5 players have those such fancy ♥♥♥♥ on their hands in last three days.
Just Think about this I just got my Ascension glowing after 70 hours playing, does those people in Asian all playing this long.

These Chinese cheater really deserve region lock, it's painful to see how pathetic they are when cheat in these type of RPG farming game and coop, they can totally do it themselves and quit, but they more like tell everyone "Hey I am cheating, and I am cooler than you". pathetic, pathetic , and pathetic.

You can mark me as racist or what I don't mind. But as a Chinese I really feel shameful to see my people doing these things ruin other players games.

BTW more importantly, thier cheating app is free, and few of them has free game but online unlocked too. So please, don't get too annoyed. Just stay with normal players and try get more fun from game instead of sh1t from coop cheaters.

Bruh, I have already made 3 max ascension baha weapons, 4 max ascension personal weapons and farmed all bahas for every char, this game is a joke for GBF players in terms of grind and progression, and especially for JP gbf players, you do not know how insane they can be.

Not saying there are no cheaters, it's a single player game without any kind of online anti-cheat, tho it's only natural. But cmon, this level of grind does not require much of the cheating.

Yeah, i got my last bahamut weapon yesterday after about 170 bahamut, and I do agree, it's not hard to farm at all. Even the materials dropped from 170 bahamut can only fully update one and half of those weapons, I do believe and trust people starting the game days early like you already had 2-4 baha fully maxed.

But about cheating, man, I have to tell you it's getting worse after I learned we can check teammates gear in-game. Every 5 games I can find at least one person having 2 supp V+ with ideal side skill plus one war elements. I don't hate those people since they really make the game a bit faster tho, but the thing really makes me mad is in their community and forum, the votes shows cheating and playing pirate game should be treated better that the normal player who bought and played game normally. There are 53% people voted cheating side and only 47% support anti-cheat side, the game community in that area just broken, people are so free to cheat online without being blamed

[k3stea]

I don't mind people modding in stuff like war elemental or some of the rarer sigils etc because luck is sometimes ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and it's great that on pc you can remove the luck factor if you want. But one shotting bosses in multiplayer is just a big douchebag move.

[Joker]

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

Originally posted by Joker:

bro don't draw conclusions too fast. U ever went to the JP server? I can tell you about 30% people already did the item spawning cheat in JP-server.

I almost played more than 100 maniac and proud games in JP server and around 30 proud in US server. 90% games in JP server had one or two glowing weapons players, i don't count if it's a fking Ascension weapon or baha-endgame weapon, the fact is, in US server, I only see no more than 5 players have those such fancy ♥♥♥♥ on their hands in last three days.
Just Think about this I just got my Ascension glowing after 70 hours playing, does those people in Asian all playing this long.

These Chinese cheater really deserve region lock, it's painful to see how pathetic they are when cheat in these type of RPG farming game and coop, they can totally do it themselves and quit, but they more like tell everyone "Hey I am cheating, and I am cooler than you". pathetic, pathetic , and pathetic.

You can mark me as racist or what I don't mind. But as a Chinese I really feel shameful to see my people doing these things ruin other players games.

BTW more importantly, thier cheating app is free, and few of them has free game but online unlocked too. So please, don't get too annoyed. Just stay with normal players and try get more fun from game instead of sh1t from coop cheaters.

As a Chinese myself, I think you just have prejudice against your own people because you have been fed hating information on them your entire fking life.

Do Chinese cheat, yes they do, just like what you said, Japanese cheats too. But for some reason, people never seems to mind when some guy with a fancy European or English name cheat, when they are obviously from that part of the world. I would call it double standard. I have seen enough to know enough. Stop pretending as if you are some higher then thou Chinese. You aren't. There are too many stupid narrative where a few Chinese people do something bad. The entire Chinese people are to be blamed. by morons like yourself.

Some people cheat when they can, but lets not blame one group of people while ignoring the other. It is hypocritical. If you are truly Chinese, show some back bone. Stop pretending to be some ♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ banana man.

your words really show how pity you are. Double standard? pretending ? Man, the time I living in China is even longer than your life, I finished my Accounting master degree at 浙江大学, and see the necessity of open-mind is, that's why I went to western and finished my CS bachelor here.

I really understand how you feel and why I get mad, I feel in the same way at the time I just left from that country, but you should really really NOT make excuses for cheating. Did i blame entire Chinese people? The answer is absolutely no. If you read the comments about people complaining Chinese cheater, have you ever think why people are doing that? Toleration to cheating, making excuses, and playing with "double standard" and sentencing will never make our reputation better.

When we talk about this cheating issue, first thing first is focusing on ourselves, and do not compare with other people. The people from other countries didn't even know the cheat app that can make sigils and items just by comparing the game forum. Don't make cheating natural.

Just learn more stuff to open your mind and communicate with more people little kid, if you feel like you are special or your point is right, you first need to beat most people in China and get 985/211 degree. otherwise, you are not convincing enough for me and people found decent job and already left that county. More importantly do not say sh1tty words while arguing, you will get bullet from others instead of mommy's apologize cake.

[Joker]

Originally posted by k3stea:

I don't mind people modding in stuff like war elemental or some of the rarer sigils etc because luck is sometimes ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and it's great that on pc you can remove the luck factor if you want. But one shotting bosses in multiplayer is just a big douchebag move.

Actually, people making rarer sigils won't make them stronger at all. a lot of them just bad at skills, even with those sigils, they still die too many and barely touch the boss.

I believe one shotting bosses is also considered as "Too Bad" for people doing sigils cheat, so I never (probably one time) see one shot before.

[CHAO$$$]

Originally posted by Joker:

Originally posted by k3stea:

I don't mind people modding in stuff like war elemental or some of the rarer sigils etc because luck is sometimes ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and it's great that on pc you can remove the luck factor if you want. But one shotting bosses in multiplayer is just a big douchebag move.

Actually, people making rarer sigils won't make them stronger at all. a lot of them just bad at skills, even with those sigils, they still die too many and barely touch the boss.

I believe one shotting bosses is also considered as "Too Bad" for people doing sigils cheat, so I never (probably one time) see one shot before.

what a load of crap

ofc giving yourself ultra rare sigils with optimal stats helps

wtf are you on about

thats why every speedrunner in MH used mods for optimal talismans
Those optimal talisman chances were severly worse than winning the lottery, the game didnt intend for you to have them but they did make a difference so people just cheated them in

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

Originally posted by Joker:

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

As a Chinese myself, I think you just have prejudice against your own people because you have been fed hating information on them your entire fking life.

Do Chinese cheat, yes they do, just like what you said, Japanese cheats too. But for some reason, people never seems to mind when some guy with a fancy European or English name cheat, when they are obviously from that part of the world. I would call it double standard. I have seen enough to know enough. Stop pretending as if you are some higher then thou Chinese. You aren't. There are too many stupid narrative where a few Chinese people do something bad. The entire Chinese people are to be blamed. by morons like yourself.

Some people cheat when they can, but lets not blame one group of people while ignoring the other. It is hypocritical. If you are truly Chinese, show some back bone. Stop pretending to be some ♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ banana man.

your words really show how pity you are. Double standard? pretending ? Man, the time I living in China is even longer than your life, I finished my Accounting master degree at 浙江大学, and see the necessity of open-mind is, that's why I went to western and finished my CS bachelor here.

I really understand how you feel and why I get mad, I feel in the same way at the time I just left from that country, but you should really really NOT make excuses for cheating. Did i blame entire Chinese people? The answer is absolutely no. If you read the comments about people complaining Chinese cheater, have you ever think why people are doing that? Toleration to cheating, making excuses, and playing with "double standard" and sentencing will never make our reputation better.

When we talk about this cheating issue, first thing first is focusing on ourselves, and do not compare with other people. The people from other countries didn't even know the cheat app that can make sigils and items just by comparing the game forum. Don't make cheating natural.

Just learn more stuff to open your mind and communicate with more people little kid, if you feel like you are special or your point is right, you first need to beat most people in China and get 985/211 degree. otherwise, you are not convincing enough for me and people found decent job and already left that county. More importantly do not say sh1tty words while arguing, you will get bullet from others instead of mommy's apologize cake.

So you admit you are one of the China Chinese who imagine that the other side of the world is a better place. And nobody in China really take you seriously anymore. Mr 公知。

I only heard about your kind. Never expect to exchange message with one. This is hilarious. I have many Mainland Chinese gaming friends myself. None of them actually cheats in games. That doesn't mean no Chinese cheats in game. But people like yourself. Self hating and all, sucking on white bananas sausages. Very sad case and interesting to experience your presence. You do understand that China has 1,4 billion people. and 0.1 percent of them cheat might rival the population of a many nations existing in today
s world?

What happened to your mind? Too much White banana sausage juice?

Originally posted by Joker:

"Did i blame entire Chinese people? The answer is absolutely no."

How dishonest is this statement? What a joker. Hidding behind a private profile. I have seen your replies in other game forums. You sure don't fool me with your BS. Not only your profile has no history. It is obvious you are a racist troll too. ROFLMAO

Originally posted by Joker:

These Chinese cheater really deserve region lock, it's painful to see how pathetic they are when cheat in these type of RPG farming game and coop, they can totally do it themselves and quit, but they more like tell everyone "Hey I am cheating, and I am cooler than you". pathetic, pathetic , and pathetic.

You can mark me as racist or what I don't mind. But as a Chinese I really feel shameful to see my people doing these things ruin other players games.

These are the players I played with everyday. Notice that they are mostly using simplified Chinese. I am from Singapore. How curious that till now. I never met a single cheater.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3160642424

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NigofP6kc9A
厚颜无耻

[SLAIN]

Originally posted by Bigboss PC Faster:

why don't they just spawning the terminus weapon and getting a perfect stats Damage Cap V+ instead of use damage hack and one shot kill boss to farm an items in multiplayer?

Cheaters aren't known to be smart, that's why they result in cheating.

[ffrotty]

Originally posted by Joker:

Even the materials dropped from 170 bahamut can only fully update one and half of those weapons, I do believe and trust people starting the game days early like you already had 2-4 baha fully maxed.

You're ignoring all the non baha mats needed to level those items... wtf

But about cheating, man, I have to tell you it's getting worse after I learned we can check teammates gear in-game. Every 5 games I can find at least one person having 2 supp V+ with ideal side skill plus one war elements.

2 ideal supp V+ and 1 war elemental isn't hard. if they were cheating they'd max supp damage which requires 45 points or three maxed Vs.. (or 15,15,14 + sigil booster).

I am 200 hours in and I have 4 ideal supp V+ and 2 war elementals.

[ChaosFred]

Originally posted by Bigboss PC Faster:

why don't they just spawning the terminus weapon and getting a perfect stats Damage Cap V+ instead of use damage hack and one shot kill boss to farm an items in multiplayer?

The short honest answer:
Because weapon spawning cheat is not EASILY available yet.

Technically, even "cheaters" have tiers in their skill levels of cheating. Just like there is player who can't even clear Proto Bahamut or GnM in less than 15 mins even with full party (NPC or Human party), there also player who can solo clear those quests in less than 10 mins.

As for reason why they would do it in multiplayer... Well that is up to the individuals.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

Originally posted by ChaosFred:

Originally posted by Bigboss PC Faster:

why don't they just spawning the terminus weapon and getting a perfect stats Damage Cap V+ instead of use damage hack and one shot kill boss to farm an items in multiplayer?

The short honest answer:
Because weapon spawning cheat is not EASILY available yet.

Technically, even "cheaters" have tiers in their skill levels of cheating. Just like there is player who can't even clear Proto Bahamut or GnM in less than 15 mins even with full party (NPC or Human party), there also player who can solo clear those quests in less than 10 mins.

As for reason why they would do it in multiplayer... Well that is up to the individuals.

Here is my short answer. Never met a cheater. Last I heard there are many in NA server. So, what is this really about?

[_jp_]

Originally posted by TheGintinks:

Originally posted by Joker:

bro don't draw conclusions too fast. U ever went to the JP server? I can tell you about 30% people already did the item spawning cheat in JP-server.

I almost played more than 100 maniac and proud games in JP server and around 30 proud in US server. 90% games in JP server had one or two glowing weapons players, i don't count if it's a fking Ascension weapon or baha-endgame weapon, the fact is, in US server, I only see no more than 5 players have those such fancy ♥♥♥♥ on their hands in last three days.
Just Think about this I just got my Ascension glowing after 70 hours playing, does those people in Asian all playing this long.

These Chinese cheater really deserve region lock, it's painful to see how pathetic they are when cheat in these type of RPG farming game and coop, they can totally do it themselves and quit, but they more like tell everyone "Hey I am cheating, and I am cooler than you". pathetic, pathetic , and pathetic.

You can mark me as racist or what I don't mind. But as a Chinese I really feel shameful to see my people doing these things ruin other players games.

BTW more importantly, thier cheating app is free, and few of them has free game but online unlocked too. So please, don't get too annoyed. Just stay with normal players and try get more fun from game instead of sh1t from coop cheaters.

70 hours for your first Ascension? The hell you do on those times? My first complete one is in the 40th hour and currently after 55 hour total i got 6 bahamut weapon and almost done on upgrading one of them.

This is totally depend how you play. If you run most quests in multiplayer lobby, you only need to upgrade one player items, but if you play mostly with AI you need do same for 4 more at least. In reality however, you need more then 4, since if you play mostly with melee you will have hard time to deal with half flying crap and almost never get brake for them. So unless you main someone like Eugen or Rakham you also need to upgrade them too just to make way for farm flying and brake parts side quests.

[brunolm]

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

Wow, I haven't met any cheaters so far. I must be really lucky. I thought this game is hacker free. I thought wrong I suppose.

People on this forum make it seem that the game is full of cheaters, I have seen MAYBE 1 in 1k Bahamut fights

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

Originally posted by brunolm (神 Knx):

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

Wow, I haven't met any cheaters so far. I must be really lucky. I thought this game is hacker free. I thought wrong I suppose.

People on this forum make it seem that the game is full of cheaters, I have seen MAYBE 1 in 1k Bahamut fights

They may have mistaken legit play to cheating. I have maxed my lvl 50 characters with fully upgraded ascensions weapons before and jump into lower difficulty coop. It is awesome. I killed the bosses like in a few mins. Needless to day, I am probably not alone in doing this.

Then again, I have been playing games for decades and have seen many very sour people trying to stir sheet in gaming forums. So....

[ChaosFred]

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

Originally posted by ChaosFred:

Here is my short answer. Never met a cheater. Last I heard there are many in NA server. So, what is this really about?

"Cheaters broke the grind fun". Simple as that. You can consider to be very lucky if you never met one tho if you often farming on the end Proud quests (Proto, Pyeta, etc). Or probably you've met one but only soft-cheaters like only modifying their skill cooldowns to be slightly faster or crit to 100% so they still looked natural.

There are hard cheaters who deals 9.999.999 damage/hit can be found around tho.

[楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE]

Originally posted by ChaosFred:

Originally posted by 楊玄。杨玄。LangrisserWWE:

Here is my short answer. Never met a cheater. Last I heard there are many in NA server. So, what is this really about?

"Cheaters broke the grind fun". Simple as that. You can consider to be very lucky if you never met one tho if you often farming on the end Proud quests (Proto, Pyeta, etc). Or probably you've met one but only soft-cheaters like only modifying their skill cooldowns to be slightly faster or crit to 100% so they still looked natural.

There are hard cheaters who deals 9.999.999 damage/hit can be found around tho.

I have only see 99999 damage in full burst. Which isn't uncommon. I already have 4 full acesison characters and sick of proud bahamat. Never seen a single player do 99999 damage alone with any skills or attacks. Neither have I seen anything you people describe. But having played games for decades and read enough BS. Most of my coop see players struggles, very few of them are showing something weird. Infact none. Being in forum long enough. I notice that NA players are a special bunch in forum. Just yesterday. I advise an NA player to play the game and experience it himself so he can make up his own mind about it. He responded like a LGBTQ++ activist emotionally. It was fk ing hilarious.

Sigh...