Cagliostro is the best written trans character ever

[Wolfberry]

We love cagliostro

[weiss]

Originally posted by Wolfberry:

wild how this went from discussing trans characters to blowing you losers up spouting anti trans rhetoric. i thought this character wasnt trans from what yall say. almost as if thats never what you were arguing in the first place

see, you want to control the conversion+you got several times told that cagliostro is not a transgender since they didnt went through the whole transition progress. you got aswell several times told why it is like this but you ignore all this and stay stubborn.

in short, its your opinion.
everyone can have their own opinion. if someone tells you "no, its not like thar" is that their opinion. the thing which you do wrong here is trying to force your opinion on everyone which doesnt shares your opinion and you are aswell only to those "friendly" which share your opinion, supporting you and say what you want to hear. to everyone else are you incredibly rude.

if you would just accept other peoples opinion would you have it WAY easier.
like i say "cagliostro is not transgender."
you say "cagliostro is transgender"
cool, everyone see´s things differently.
like i say "transgenders which havent completed their transition should not be allowed in restricted areas where only the other gender can go but if they are done with their transition would i be fine with it"

but, your opinion would probably be like
"i am a transgender, i am allowed in male and female restricted areas"
tho i think you would make the majority of peoples really upset and yet, thats your opinion even if those peoples would get upset.

but ohwell.
this is how topics like this always end up.
OP (which is you) writes an opinion down --> peoples come into the topic and agree or disagree --> results into A LOT of arguments --> topic sooner or later derails because peoples start to insult eachother --> at this point comes usually a valve mod in and locks the whole thing which will probably sooner or later happen.

[ProfessorHerb]

Originally posted by Andi:

Originally posted by ProfessorHerb:

sex is not gender. Sex are organs, gender are consepts
The spanish language genders its words, La Casa means the home, the word is gendered female but it doesn't mean the house has a sex. Stop pretending to not know the difference. Gender has never meant sex, it's never been the same thing as sex, this isn't a new concept, and pretending like it is actively ignorant.

sex and gender is used interchangeably in countries where theres not a need to "identify" as a gender

we speak English, I was raised by an english teacher. The English word 'Gender' in english is not interchangeable with the english word 'sex'. So tranGENDER has nothing to do with sex. you're thinking of tranSEXUAL which was phased out of use because it was actually not an accurate term. You could argue transexual would apply to anyone who got the full body surgery, but then they'd just both be transexual and transgender meaning the transexual term again isn't useful and so trangender is still the more efficient term to use.

[Wolfberry]

Originally posted by Doson・ザ・ロリ好き紳士:

I'm unsubscribing from this thread. I've already said what I need to say and this has been debunked a million times. Disingenuous bad faith actors will keep proclaiming themselves correct and "educated" while pretending not to understand any of the opposing arguments, so that will never change.

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[Andi]

Originally posted by Wolfberry:

Originally posted by Andi:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5694455/#:~:text=Results%3A%20During%20the%20follow-up,28%20months%20of%20follow-up

stunts the development of the brain. i guess thats not permanent?

"Brain white matter fractional anisotropy remained unchanged in the GD girl during pubertal suppression with GnRHa for 28 months, which may be related to the reduced serum testosterone levels and/or to the patient's baseline low average cognitive performance.Global performance on the Weschler scale was slightly lower during pubertal suppression compared to baseline, predominantly due to a reduction in operational memory. Either a baseline of low average cognition or the hormonal status could play a role in cognitive performance during pubertal suppression. The voice pattern during the follow-up seemed to reflect testosterone levels under suppression by GnRHa treatment."

white matter fractional anisotropy remained UNCHANGED, which MAY be linked to the reduced testosterone levels AND/OR to the patients baseline low average cognitive performance

the MAY here is important as it means the research is dubious as either could be a factor, but no research says definitively that the puberty blockers are the cause. do you read what you post?

this is what you gathered from reading the paper, rather than acknowledging its potential harm to children.

[weiss]

btw wolfberry, what i wanted to say with my previous post (incase you arent a fan of long posts) here the short version.

if you can accept my opinion that cagliostro isnt a transgender am i willing to accept that your opinion about cagliostro is that she is one or ... he or they ... gender stuff is confusing anyways.

and thats how it should work with everyone here ... but human kind loves to argue with eachother.
at the end could only the dev team tell us wether cagliostro is one or not xD.

[Lawrence]

We're locking this thread as it has devolved into non-productive argument.