Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword

Sid Meier's Civilization IV: Beyond the Sword

Is it possible to due absurd things like win a space victory in 1,000 bc
Years ago I tried to get help for this game on some forums. They just kept mocking how ludicrously bad I was. At the time, I mostly played on the lower two difficulties. They kept claiming that at that low of difficulty, I should seriously be able to win before 0 ad. They never told me how. I gave them my save file once where I was having issues. Some guy re-uploaded after he played it for 10 turns. He had conquered the entire map, including an entire continent I had no idea even existed yet. All they really seemed to point out was that I shouldn't have been making buildings, and I shouldn't let civs on other continents I had no way to access sit there and tech all day. I have no idea how he managed to win my game; he never said, other than that I was hopelessly inept.

I just now tried to look up someone rushing to a space race victory. He managed to do it in 10 minutes real time, but the ingame time was in the early 20th century.

Is it even seriously possible to do stuff like that? I certainly never came close to absurd stuff like that, and nobody every told me how to pull it off.

As for difficulty, I turned the difficulty all the way up to sid once just to see what would happen. I think this may have been in civ 3, not sure. I only had one turn to set up a city before the entire map was taken by the opposing AIs, who then proceeded to declare war on me every single turn. I spent the entire game begging other civs to declare peace, only to have them declare war again a turn or two later. I can't fathom how its possible to win a game at such a difficulty. In this game, the highest difficulty I ever got anywhere with was noble.
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Scathe Dec 7, 2019 @ 3:59am 
It depends on alot of factors, how long a victory is going to take. Victories are certainly possible on Diety(highest difficulty on this game), even on huge maps with lots of civs. speaking from my own personal experience, my best win was on Emperor, but I don't remember the statistics of that win and it was on an old computer that no longer runs. I only have two wins logged on my current computer -

Civ4: beyond the sword

Willem Van Orange of Rome (yes I used unrestricted leaders for this one)
Normalized: 164602
finish: 1608 AD
Score: 5273
Victory: Domination
Difficulty: Monarch
Size: Standard
Start: Ancient
Speed: Marathon
Number of Civs: 8
Map: Continents
Vassal states disabled

Pericles of Greece
Normalized: 164116
Finish: 1510 AD
Score: 5133
Victory: Domination
Difficulty: Prince
Size: Standard
Start: Ancient
Speed: Marathon
Number of Civs: 8
Map: Continents
Vassal states disabled

I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience asking for help in the past. if you ask on this forum, and maybe post some steam screenshots of your game, I can try to give advice.
Last edited by Scathe; Dec 7, 2019 @ 4:47am
Scathe Dec 7, 2019 @ 4:42am 
some good advice for this game is given in this thread:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/8800/discussions/0/1640915206464263438/
GoldenTalon Dec 7, 2019 @ 1:14pm 
Also recommend CivFanatics for help. It's much more active than the Steam board.
258789553873 Dec 7, 2019 @ 7:49pm 
I think civFanatics is where I ran into those trolls! Of course, that was probably about a decade ago...
not.rich.man Dec 16, 2019 @ 9:52am 
civfanatics was a good place to get maps and help on customization, haven't been there in years though.

if you truly are having trouble winning the game - one of the easier ones is to do culture victory - just focus on building culture buildings asap in three cities

goodluck
Scathe Jan 5, 2020 @ 6:14am 
Originally posted by not.rich.man:

if you truly are having trouble winning the game - one of the easier ones is to do culture victory - just focus on building culture buildings asap in three cities

goodluck

I kinda have to disagree that culture victory is easy. I've done one before and won with it, but, I have an easier time overpowering enemy armies and winning a domination victory than finding the appropriate balance of defense, science, and culture for a cultural victory. it is too easy to put your culture rate too high and your science rate too low when you unlock the ability to use your economy to generate culture, and then you get behind in tech and you get crushed by another civ since you've sacrificed too much science for culture and too many military units sacrificed to spread religion to get more religious cultural buildings. culture is another thing added to the balance between military might, science rate, and money rate, and it is not easy to get the balance right in my opinion.
red255 Jan 5, 2020 @ 6:27am 
in CIV 5 if you wanted to win the science victory early you actually played on the higher difficulties and abused the AI's bonuses to get the tech's you needed.

tech treaties and all that.

been ages since I played Civ 4 on low difficulties. I'm reasonably sure you can do pretty well tech wise. but while you can get a diplo victory that early, I doubt you can get a space race one.
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