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1.It has a very boring open world. True Crime 2 had a more fun open world than this.
2.Instead of being a cop simulator like True Crime 2, it was more a GTA inspired game.(Ironic that it was supposed to be TC 3)
3.Hand to hand was inspired from Batman games but it was inferior compare to it.
Shenmue 3 is far better game than this failure.
how is a game with a shoddy battle system that couldn't even return to it's virtua fighter roots, an unnecessary money grind requirement to continue the story, and an open world arguably more dead than FFXV's with paper mache characters placed everywhere better than the "cons" you described sleeping dog with?
Unlike you that are just imagining that Shenmue 3 is the worst game of all time without even playing it.
Sleeping Dogs has a very boring open world as a GTA clone.(Even GTA 3 had a better one)
-Exploration is pointless.
-Vehicles aren't fun
-Cop missions are too linear compare to what they were in True Crime 2.
-Chases were boring.(Since in those chases you have to just press forward and space the whole time with pressing space whenever you get near an obstacle)
Shenmue 3 cinematic chases are more fun than this.
-Hand to hand combat is inferior than Batman
-The whole game is too easy.
-Vehicle races aren't fun. Because driving isn't that good.
-Hacking cameras and opening chests mini games got boring too fast.
-Girlfriend activities are too linear and are without any chance of failing at them.
-Police chases are also awful compare to GTA games.(I even one time blasted them to death with guns escape them)
-Unlike GTA there is no point in learning the city layout.(No bribes, no platforms to use when police are chasing you)
Shenmue 3 with much less budget has a more alive open world compare to it with more fun side activities.
I prefer to play Forklift/Chopping wood/Lucky hit/Fishing/ Practicing/etc mini games in Shenmue 3 than to do Sleeping Dogs side activities.
To make those arguments you can't have played both.
"Exploration is pointless."
Exploration is not pointless - unless you explore you can't upgrade your health.
"Vehicles aren't fun/Vehicle races aren't fun/Chases/etc"
Vehicles don't exist in any meaningful way in the entire Shenmue series beyond the forklifts. Vehicle highjacking in Sleeping Dogs is infinitely more fun than racing around the same track in the same forklift day after day after day.
"The whole game is too easy"
In Shenmue 3 you can't even die, the only way you can "fail" is by not playing the game in the first place.
"Hand to hand combat is inferior than Batman"
Combat in Shenmue 3 is not only inferior to Sleeping Dogs, and vastly so, it's vastly inferior to Shenmue 2.
"Shenmue 3 cinematic chases are more fun than this."
Shenmue chases amount to nothing more than scripted QTEs with frequent save intervals.
"Hacking cameras and opening chests mini games got boring too fast."
Walking around in circles to raise endurance was beyond boring after trying it just once.
"Girlfriend activities are too linear and are without any chance of failing at them."
Shenmue 3 is a completely linear game with no chance of failing at the entire game.
"Unlike GTA there is no point in learning the city layout.(No bribes, no platforms to use when police are chasing you)"
Eh? Are you serious? The point in learning the city layout is to escape from the cops/gangs quicker. Remind me what bribes are in GTA V.....jeez.
"Shenmue 3 with much less budget has a more alive open world compare to it with more fun side activities. "
This is a categorical lie. You don't know how much Sleeping Dogs OR Shenmue 3 cost to develop.
"I prefer to play Forklift/Chopping wood/Lucky hit/Fishing/ Practicing/etc mini games in Shenmue 3 than to do Sleeping Dogs side activities."
Good for you. You prefer walking in circles, driving a slow af forklift around a repetitive route, pressing a button to drop a small ball, etc - other people may not.
All your points are either subjective or in the case of the budget argument, demonstrably false.
Shenmue is an exploration focused open world game with lot's of mini games.(QTEs,Combat, Par time jobs, etc)
Sleeping Dogs is a sandbox type like GTA but it is the boring version of GTA since you have far less interesting things to do in it.
Shenmue 3 succeded in making a fun open world game in the style that it wanted to make, Sleeping Dogs failed at that.
Again, that's just your opinion.
You clearly prefer walking around in a circle, driving a slow af forklift, dropping small balls, etc.
Other people do not.
Sleeping Dogs sold 1.5 million copies in its first year.
Shenmue sales, which will include hundreds of thousands of guaranteed sales from the Epic exclusivity deal, will do well to match that.
FWIW, Sleeping Dogs reviewed far more favourably than Shenmue 3 - 80% to 69% on Metacritic, so clearly many people disagree with your idea of fun.
It's fascinating though, and somewhat telling, that you have to repeatedly compare a game released in 2019 to games released 5 and now with Sleeping Dogs, 7 years ago.
and yet, you are here, with us
I would say that you're better off sticking to Shenmue's subreddit but even then the cracks are starting to form there as more and more of fans are starting to lose the nostalgia goggles
except that I did play both, one I bought legally on console, and another I backed and refunded and obtained via the seven seas.
While yes SD doesn't have an open world as "good" as GTA's does, you know, the ones who have been doing that song and dance for years while the other one just buying the idea (and oddly not the rights to True Crime) but making a pretty decent open world undercover cop story, but even then the battles were decent enough for it to be enjoyable up to the end, meanwhile shenmue 3's is not and just a cavalcade of attempts to emulate what old shenmue had but couldn't reach that point. The activities in SD is, while repetitive as it usually is with open world games, they're at the very least bearable, as you alternate between them, story missions, and just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ around, meanwhile in shenmue 3? the repetition of money farming activities IS the gameplay loop, beyond that it is just you watching as Ryo magically forgetting everything he had learnt up to this point and get beaten by thugs. And do you really want to praise shenmue 3's "lively" open world when it is about as lively as a jazz concert comprised of music students audiences who are forced to watch simply because they needed the extra credit?
And I find it funny that you never directly compare SD with Shenmue 3 unless if it came to the open world and it's (incredibly lacking) activities, guess when the game has nothing you really need to pull in other games to compare eh
Amen!
bu.ll.sh.it
next you compare yakuza to gta, ... and gta with need for speed, hmmm
not really a contest at that point lol
Yakuza, while the very slow start in sales, ended up profiting SEGA, has multiple sequels and actually completed it's story arcs, has decent budgeting that doesn't go over, has fun mini games, great characters and over the top gameplay
meanwhile hard to say if sleeping dogs actually benefited SE as a whole in the end
and shenmue? It was a good inspiration that gave rise to Yakuza, but we can easily see who has surpassed the other at this point