Isnt it a bit expensive?

[Bae Watch]

Im a big fan of the FIFA Manager series. It had licensed the real players, clubs and turnaments. they put more than a lot work into rating upcoming players and i mean everyplayer.

who knew pogba back in 2012 or max mayer in 2014 etc etc. they had not just video animations for like a sitiuation. the entire match and your taktik where animated. the developing of player where ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ complex af. i think the game was like 30€

i saw the steam vid and in the matches, they show dots... realy. how are the other compartments. why is this even worth 15€

[Kago™².]

Originally posted by Parane:

Originally posted by Cago™².:

Why do you bring up Assassins Creed? Its a completely different game that has nothing to do with this one.

I thought the reason was obvious. A game that is double the price but limited playtime and people afford it without problem. But 35 pound for a game that could potentially last you forever is "too expensive"?

Football Manager is not a game for everyone. You need to enjoy football to enjoy the game. You need to enjoy micro management and statistics to enjoy the game. If you don't do enjoy those sort of things, don't buy the game. It's very simple.

Also, if you have a decent job you can afford 35 pound for a game you enjoy.

35 pounds you say? We have to pay 55€ in the official store.

You know you can get the game even cheaper than 35 pound if you shop around a little?

Double the price? Assassins Creed is 50 pounds (standar edition) (60€ for me), Fm19 is 35 pounds (55€ for me). I dont see any difference but only 5 miserable euros.

The differences between both games are abysmal, therefore you can not compare them. The only thing they have in common is that they are both videogames. While one of them is a AAA story telling with an ending (platform, adventures, open world, whatever you want to call it) with tons of work (3D enviroments, characters, story, historical research, OST, voice acting, animations, etc, etc, etc,) and money invested (marketing mostly and a huge working manpower),
the other one is a sim game (with replayability just like any other simulator game) based mostly in coding and databases that are updated every year from an already existing core. If I had to describe FM it would be like describing the Earth soil layers. The core would be the very first FM game and every new version (9,10,11,12,13,14.. etc) would be just layers overlapping the core game that was launched long ago.

Any game with replayability can last forever. The theory of: "it cost me 50€ but I will play 2000 hours so its a good game" its invalid. How many hours can someone play Dota2? Planetside2? or any other free game? hours played/money spent is not an indicator of how good a game is, otherwise the last mentioned games are the best games ever made

I know I can buy the game somewhere else to get it cheaper but I like to use the developers price tag to value if it is worth or not to me, according to the price. Damn, you could even get it for free, but thats not the point.

Anyway I think I wrote quite a wall , but we have different opinions so Im not gonna bother much. Cheers!

[Nikzaw]

If you dont like the price dont buy it...

Simple fact is to thousands of people think this game is worth every penny, and each penny supports
the fantastic job the developers do year in year out, if you dont agree its worth it dont buy it simple.

[Kago™².]

Yeah, Steam reviews show the "fantastic" job they've done in the last years...

[Nikzaw]

Originally posted by Cago™².:

Yeah, Steam reviews show the "fantastic" job they've done in the last years...

Its sales figures seem to show that...

As ive said before if you dont like it, dont buy it. Last time i checked you was not required by law to buy this game

[Kago™².]

Ok, that got me. Amazing logic. I'm out.

[Rogue_Zephyr (Meta)]

Originally posted by Cago™².:

Ok, that got me. Amazing logic. I'm out.

Thank ♥♥♥♥ for that. And I really don't think you can talk of logic when you use a easily manipulated review system as your yardstick

[Kago™².]

Originally posted by Rogue_Zephyr (Meta):

Originally posted by Cago™².:

Ok, that got me. Amazing logic. I'm out.

Thank ♥♥♥♥ for that. And I really don't think you can talk of logic when you use a easily manipulated review system as your yardstick

Damn, your funny answers always keep me comming back to these forums.
If you have a problem with Steam reviews complain to Steam. They're so manipulated that Steam doesnt count reviews from games bought outside Steam, and considering most of you "white knights defenders" buy the game outside Steam to save a few euros yet you call of those who complain about the price whinners, cry babies, kids, etc... Well thats ironic.
You've got plenty of other places to check the reviews. I could name a few but you'll probably say they are manipulated so I wont bother.

[Rogue_Zephyr (Meta)]

Originally posted by Cago™².:

Originally posted by Rogue_Zephyr (Meta):

Thank ♥♥♥♥ for that. And I really don't think you can talk of logic when you use a easily manipulated review system as your yardstick

Damn, your funny answers always keep me comming back to these forums.
If you have a problem with Steam reviews complain to Steam. They're so manipulated that Steam doesnt count reviews from games bought outside Steam, and considering most of you "white knights defenders" buy the game outside Steam to save a few euros yet you call of those who complain about the price whinners, cry babies, kids, etc... Well thats ironic.
You've got plenty of other places to check the reviews. I could name a few but you'll probably say they are manipulated so I wont bother.

I think its more your lack of self control than anything else.

And if we can save money on the game, then so can the whiny crybabies complaining about the price. The difference is that they would rather have something to complain about and so will not bother.

I also thank you for sparing me more of your drivel.

[Facemelter]

Not really. If you shop around you can get it for as little as £23. Pretty cheap compared to normal prices. Plus, you get the best footie sim ever made. As for discovering new talent, you obviously don't know the history of CM/FM, as you would know how many future gems have been uncovered in it. Please explain about the compartments. I don't know what they are.

[Overkill]

Same game every single year, with a few pointless features added. Don't give these jokers anymore money.

[Sunzero]

for sure it is to expansive. Because always more and more people get no money for their work ! otherside rich get more rich

[Facemelter]

Originally posted by Sunzero:

for sure it is to expansive. Because always more and more people get no money for their work ! otherside rich get more rich

awesome. made me laugh before bed. what does your post mean?

[Cassie]

Originally posted by ShadowAngel:

Originally posted by Bae Watch:

Im a big fan of the FIFA Manager series. It had licensed the real players, clubs and turnaments. they put more than a lot work into rating upcoming players and i mean everyplayer.

LOL!
The player ratings in EA's Manager were always horribly unrealistic. Wrong player datas and everything below the few top european leagues was full of mistakes. Why do you think the community always created those Megapatch that fixed all the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥? Data wise, the Fifa Manager was always a very bad joke, quite the opposite of SI's which is highly accurate.

As for the match: Ever watched them? It was horrible and a far cry from how real football looks, because the AI was so horrific that it was mostly just passes around the center line.
Did you also know that the "calculation" in 3D was completely screwed up, hence why 90% of all matches ended 0:0, 1:1 or 1:0?

EA's Manager was a typical german manager sim: Everything but football was important, it was historically always more important to build Hotels and other ♥♥♥♥ or buy stocks or buildings while the Team, Training, Tactics never really mattered at all. EA's Manager was headed by Gerald Köhler and funnily, included the same retarded ♥♥♥♥, you had in Anstoss before, where setting everything as defensive as possible made you win by a landslide, playing something like a 5-4-1 (with offiside trap) was the most successful formation and nothing really ever mattered, didn't matter where the players are on the field, didn't matter what formation they really were supposed to follow. Most settings had no meaning but were just for show.

There is some enjoyment in Fifa Manager 12 to 14 if you mod the 3d match. However you are correct in many ways. I am very frustrtated with my Fifa Manager 12 because the transfer market is broken, my team is broke because I can't sell players even though they are top rated etc. The sim mode, text mode are fun but flawed. I spent a lot more hours in Football Manager even though it too has bugs but it graps my attention more and I actually feel like a manager.

I want to buy the new Football Manager 2019 but no money. I know they don't ask a lot but I have a debt issue. Life is expensive in South Africa so maybe a better discount if you have previous Football Manager would be nice.

For the price it is an investment and worth it because you can spend thousands of hours playing it.

[Slainpessimist]

Originally posted by Fewnmeyer:

I've sunk thousands of hours into FM, you get your money's worth for these games.

Have a read of this article

a game which has been cited in over 35 divorce cases

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/babb/11780655/Sky-Sports-use-Football-Manager-database-to-profile-players-in-real-life.html

I think it is well worth the money, that said I don't buy every edition.

I think FM player profiles are excelent, especially for a game, but only in top competitions. The lower the competition I think the disparity gets greater, but it should be expected I guess as less work gets put into them.
I follow some smaller leagues irl and I have wondered about the stats players have in FM, then they get the big move to EPL, La Liga or Bundesliga and suddenly their stats double?
I do think in part stats are conflated to draw distinctions between leagues and teams, because footbal (especially the higher you go) becomes a game of fine lines and luck and is probably hard to reproduce in a game and/or could make it less fun. It is a game afterall.

[Polaire]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1jTh9hlRx4

and now ? what do you think ?