Training broken?

[Joe]

Players lose attributes regulary and I havel 5 stars in all training categories? What do I do? I'm confused?

[Blackfyre]

Don't panic, sometimes they go down, sometimes they go up.

Make sure they are training their preferred position and role to begin with. Most players take a while to settle in to the new training regimes if they are new to the club or you have just taken over.
It's worth noting that you should control the training yourself imo, and change the individual training every couple of weeks. The assistants have a tendency of planning the wrong training for the wrong time of the season.
My advice is to plan Pre season to be fitness and tactic heavy, during the season work on skills/technique and tactics for the team. You can balance the demands by using the individual training and the intensity.

It's also worth checking if you can train a second position for certain players, giving your squad greater flexibility. Versatility (hidden stat) will allow them to develop other positions better.

Coaches also need high motivation and tactical knowledge, not just technical abilities.

I hope that helps a little.

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After longterm injuries always give your player GENERAL REHAB individual training (he will regain his atts quickly) and when your coach notice you about your player to change his individual training (arange in staff responsibilities for once a week this notification) then change his individual training and also turn your attention on INTENSITY LEVEL in individual training and always do as your physio recommends to you (player will develope further and will have less injuries)..

These things will surely minimize attribute droping, but as Blackfyre said,, sometimes atts go up and sometimes go down,, it's not a bug surely..also do those things what Blackfyre said, as training other positions/roles for your player (for example; all positions that are visible from awkward train them to acomplished on that role/position) and this will contribute to his development.

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Haha,, sad vidim,, Joe, ti si naš👍😋

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Here you got few examples how I develope player roles to be "acomplished". When I bought these players, these acomplished roles/positions (dark green color) was only in yellow or orange color (awkward), so thru time I developed these other roles/positions to be acomplished and these kind of development also has a positive impact on player attributes (also develope player traits properly for each position - attributes will go up also)...

...also, my specialty is when I bought young striker (U18 players) to develope him for IF roles (if he is left footed I train him for AMR Inside forward role and if he have strong both foots I train him and for AMR&AML IF roles-strikers who are natural on IF roles will always score more than wingers on IF roles/greater finishing)..to do this properly put your young striker in u20 squad, asign him in your u20 tactic to play on trained position/role and also asign this player to be available to play in u18 squad for 90 minutes and in u18 tactic asign him to play on trained position (on this way he will have more playin time and will quickly develope his new position/role to be Natural-Strikers are always more suitable for retraining them to be natural as a wingers/IForwards, you will not have this luck with wingers if you retrain them for other wing/acomplished position is maximum)...and best age for retraining position is when your players are U20yo (they will surely developed as a Natural on new position)

...it's good to mentioned that your u20&u18 managers must be in staff responsibilities be asigned to play with your tactic and their preffered tactic (1st or 2nd) must be the same as your main tactic what you using (quality development of young players and better understanding of your tactic for your u20&u18 managers).

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Also take your attention to your coaches..their main mental attributes must be at least 45 points (three main mental attributes must have 45 points, all three together-determination, level of discipline and motivating) and two main coaching attributes must have together 35-40 points for best results on training (for fitness and Shot stopping is only one main attribute so this must be 20 points).

That three main mental attributes with years of your coahes will go down (motivating mostly) and this attribute droping from your coaches also have a impact on player injuries..when your coach get old (58+yo) his main mental attributes will go down, if/when this happenes, if three main mental attributes (all three together) goes below 40 points your players will surely be more injured and they will have more longterm injuries...so it's important to react on time and sack your old coach which has these mental attribute droping and you need to buy new younger coach with better mental attributes (main)...also for better training results, your coaches must have 1st or 2nd preffered tactic to be the same as your main tactic.


P.S.

If you can't find coach who has 45 points on three main mental attributes (all three together) and around 35-40 pts for coaching atts, then just buy some very young coach (below 40yo) who has these three mental atts around 40 points,, send him on coaching courses to earn "Continental pro license" and his atts will go UP with every new qualification.

I saw that you have 5 stars for all the training categories, but I had the need to mention this also
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[Joe]

Yeah I'm always searching for good motivation coaches, it's not sometimes they go down, they often go down. I don't understand why? I understand when players a injured that they lose attributes but bloody hell it's like my players don't train at all on default training. Like what the hell, I buy player...some weeks passes...attributes drop? it's like 3-1 ratio. 3 times it goes down, once it goes up. Like I never experienced the red arrow to go completely down on ALL attributes on one player. Like he lost 1 point in EVERY stat from just one training report. A total red arrow down. WHAT DO I DO

[nermin]

Originally posted by Diego:

Also,, when you developing new trait on some player, if he is not comfortable with that trait his attributes will surely go down and when your player past year of 30, his phisique attributes always go down..

Hey Diego jebo te ja pa ja nisam znao da si iz Hrvatske!!!!!!
hey thanks alot for your support here been thinking da lazes since i read your comments here ali vidim razumijes ovu igricu.

[nermin]

Originally posted by Joe:

Yeah I'm always searching for good motivation coaches, it's not sometimes they go down, they often go down. I don't understand why? I understand when players a injured that they lose attributes but bloody hell it's like my players don't train at all on default training. Like what the hell, I buy player...some weeks passes...attributes drop? it's like 3-1 ratio. 3 times it goes down, once it goes up. Like I never experienced the red arrow to go completely down on ALL attributes on one player. Like he lost 1 point in EVERY stat from just one training report. A total red arrow down. WHAT DO I DO

Joe jebo te ja i tis is Hrvatske!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA a ja iz Australije a bivse juge Sisak.jajaja

[Gards]

Sounds like you have to be very "hands on" and not rely on the AM?

[Powellinho.72]

whats the reasoning behind players determination randomly dropping? sancho at my club dortmund went up to 13, months later, randomly went back down to 12. no injuries, hes playing, just happened randomly.

[Powellinho.72]

"and never I mean never ever give to player who is younger than 26yo squad status higher than "First team player" or his personality and determination will also go down"

i didnt know this could happen. :s

[nermin]

Thanks Diego when i get to that stage il b considering that key role contract status . by the way i am just keeping in Lower league training as am training team , not allocating anything to assistant to do am doing it, i hope it makes sense :) .
So with lower league just train for first 2 month Overal Match practice and outfiled.Once you have these players used to outfiled training and overal then after 2 month offer them defensive trainnig but once per week, and offer teamwork.

[nermin]

My stats are actually going up and I also play 2 games with my under 18s per week, train train train em all the time even if a player played during the week and had low rating make hi/her substitute in your under 18/23s game

[nermin]

Originally posted by Diego:

Yes great Nermin,, you are expert for General trainings , my assistant arange them for me, haha

This is first time in FM series that am arange general trainings for me...I had to cut my workload a little bit, haha...jebiga😋

haha semi-expert at trainng no1 at screaming at my monitor!

[zekasi]

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