Best rotk in the series is 9

[Cookie]

Those that say otherwise have never played it with puk. Prove me wrong.
11 has its moments but boring. Tbh rotk biggest problem is repetitiveness. And rotk 9 is the one that I can actually take the time to play finish it.

[Cookie]

The combination of formations and officer ability is great

[Otterly Confused]

I wish I could play it. :/ IF ONLY THEY'D TRANSLATE IT AND THE OTHER ONES.

[GUST]

I played 9,10,11 and 13 I must say i had a lot of fun playing 11 the gameplay was perfect imo.

[Saeko]

played, 2.3.4.5.6.7.8.9.10.11.12 & 13, my fav was the 11, but everyone have different taste so.. :-)

[BloodyPork]

Correct. 9 is the best. Even without PUK it is better than all of them too. Some people liked XI more but those 2 are better than the rest. X, XII, XIII are the worst ones out of all the modern RTK since the playstation era.

It's the only rtk where the combat AI is not a pushover because it is automated.

[BloodyPork]

Originally posted by Ultimarok:

I disagree, that's X (10) for me, despite the lack of co-op. Everything about it was just PERFECT. Well, except for the lag and minor bugs, but it wasn't enough to completely mar an otherwise excellent experience.

I am hoping XIV will be just as good, if not BETTER. And hopefully it actually has co-op this time.

It's so perfect my solo unit marksmen tower shredding millions ala gatling gun nonstop with DIRECT lmao

[BloodyPork]

Originally posted by Ultimarok:

Originally posted by BloodyPork:

It's so perfect my solo unit marksmen tower shredding millions ala gatling gun nonstop with DIRECT lmao

I didn't ask for you opinion and I was responding to OP, not you. But whatever. It was good enough for me and a lot of people.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Go troll somewhere else.

Ah right, you're one of those "everyone who disagrees with me is a troll."

[pylory]

played all ROTK.
my personal picks are 9 , 13 , 5.
9 is simple but addictive.(however the interface doesn't age well)
It is the best example of less is more.
All units are assumed to be mixed units, thanks to the lack of unit type ( screw rock paper scissors logic)
No building system, simple economic system. (What is the point of total war style building system? click fest? like all the mobile games? less is more, plz leave click fest system to mobile gaming )
No micromanagement in battle, so you focus on the big picture.



13 has improved the bureaucracy system, less micromanagement in economic development and officer reliance (in the past, you can usually concentrate all officers in one city to boost the development.)
This bureaucracy system is especially good if you play as lord, I don't play officer in 13.
However the combat sucks.

5 is mostly about nostalgic. It is a good all around old ROTK.

The problem of 11 is economy development are repetitive and micro intensive (click fest)
It is there just to make people who demand to build stuff happy but to annoy anyone who hate click fest. I like to build stuff in other games which has at least some level of complexity. but 11 is just simple boring click fest.


7 and 8 too much magic.

10 ranged units too OP, the officer play itself is mediocre, better than 7 & 8 but not much else to say about it.

12 too much RTS.

If 14 goes the direction of 9 then it might surpass 9 to be my top pick of ROTK.

[BloodyPork]

Originally posted by pylory:

played all ROTK.
my personal picks are 9 , 13 , 5.
9 is simple but addictive.(however the interface doesn't age well)
It is the best example of less is more.
All units are assumed to be mixed units, thanks to the lack of unit type ( screw rock paper scissors logic)
No building system, simple economic system. (What is the point of total war style building system? click fest? like all the mobile games? less is more, plz leave click fest system to mobile gaming )
No micromanagement in battle, so you focus on the big picture.



13 has improved the bureaucracy system, less micromanagement in economic development and officer reliance (in the past, you can usually concentrate all officers in one city to boost the development.)
This bureaucracy system is especially good if you play as lord, I don't play officer in 13.
However the combat sucks.

5 is mostly about nostalgic. It is a good all around old ROTK.

The problem of 11 is economy development are repetitive and micro intensive (click fest)
It is there just to make people who demand to build stuff happy but to annoy anyone who hate click fest. I like to build stuff in other games which has at least some level of complexity. but 11 is just simple boring click fest.


7 and 8 too much magic.

10 ranged units too OP, the officer play itself is mediocre, better than 7 & 8 but not much else to say about it.

12 too much RTS.

If 14 goes the direction of 9 then it might surpass 9 to be my top pick of ROTK.

Good analysis.

13 would indeed be very very good if combat is more balanced like 9. Too bad combat is too unbalanced with too many broken mechanics and AI too easy to exploit. There's indeed a lot of improvements in 13 outside of combat itself.

[BloodyPork]

Originally posted by Ultimarok:

Originally posted by BloodyPork:

Ah right, you're one of those "everyone who disagrees with me is a troll."

Not necessarily, considering that I hate SJWs and the like. But you deliberately replied with a response designed to mock and provoke, that's basically trolling. If it acts like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then well... You get the idea.

Think about it for a second... You were upset/annoyed enough over someone calling a game they like "perfect", in a civil disagreement, to respond that way.

I'll admit may have over-exaggerated a bit calling it perfect and implying it was the best in the series enough to garner such a response, fair enough. But it's definitely top tier/quality in the series.

I don't mind that you disagree and perhaps rightly so that you would, that's fine. Whatever. But at the same time, you ain't gotta do it like "LOLOLOOL this game sucks because (insert dumb joke and fallacy here)"

More likely it's a potential misunderstanding on both sides, though the jury's still out on that one.

Where did I say the game sucks? I said the game is perfect, read again.

Why did you think that's a mocking answer?

[Saenimaux]

Originally posted by BloodyPork:

Originally posted by Ultimarok:

I disagree, that's X (10) for me, despite the lack of co-op. Everything about it was just PERFECT. Well, except for the lag and minor bugs, but it wasn't enough to completely mar an otherwise excellent experience.

I am hoping XIV will be just as good, if not BETTER. And hopefully it actually has co-op this time.

It's so perfect my solo unit marksmen tower shredding millions ala gatling gun nonstop with DIRECT lmao

I honestly never played 10 but your wording seems typed with some form of sarcasm in it that you actually had me convinced that 10 sucked.
I never played 9 either but I actually believe in you saying that 9 was the best in the series.
I played 4,7,8,11, and 13 by the way...

[BloodyPork]

Originally posted by Adenial:

Originally posted by BloodyPork:

It's so perfect my solo unit marksmen tower shredding millions ala gatling gun nonstop with DIRECT lmao

I honestly never played 10 but your wording seems typed with some form of sarcasm in it that you actually had me convinced that 10 sucked.
I never played 9 either but I actually believe in you saying that 9 was the best in the series.
I played 4,7,8,11, and 13 by the way...

You're lucky, if I were you I would go through all the rtk that you missed. That should give hundreds of hours of enjoyment. RTK and nobunaga's ambition is one of those games that you should play each one no matter how bad they are, because there's just no other games like it.

A bad koei historical sim for me is like a 7/10 in a relative scale of all games in general. I still clocked at least 30 hours in each of these that I've played. I think this is why Koei can afford to treat their consumers terribly... they'll still buy the next title regardless because the craving can't be fully satisfied with other strategy games. None of these are close to perfect, they always do things better in one area and worse in some other area in every single sequel, it really is infuriating.

[moe]

It really depends on personal taste though since some of them play totally different. I played all and 8 is my fav.

[jnpoint]

Oh, my favorite is still ROTK 11. I hope this one will be close to 11.

[Calorie Mate]

9 was too barebones in the worst ways.
XI was barebones and repetitive too(finish one scenario and you've finished them all), but at least it focused entirely on the strategy aspect, whereas IX was a worse VIII, without officer play and without proper management(in a strategy game... hello?)
There's a good reason why X abandoned pretty much all of IX's shenanigans again.

VIII, X, XI are peak. XII was a disaster that literally nobody liked.

XIII could've been the perfect one, merging all the styles together. If only it was properly balanced, hadn't removed basic stuff and wouldn't be as buggy and non-functional as it is...

DW9 and ROTK XIII: both the "ambitious ideas but terrible execution" children of their franchises.

But lets be honest here, no ROTK is above 7/10 objectively anyway. Much like musou, they're kinda special which is why we play them, but they're not particularly good.