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X and XIII are garbage. Although VII and VIII are pretty good, still Koei havent made a good officer play game in a long time.
Same thing with Nobunaga really, the one where you can play as officers, Ascension is the worst one.
Yeah that's highly subjective. X is widely considered by many to be the greatest of all time. Everyone has their favorites but X is is favored quite a bit (coming for someone who think's it's only decent). My personal favorite was VIII which had, in my opinion, the perfect mix of rpg and strategy components. These quirky RPG components of the series is the main draw vs Total War and the ability to manage relationships/rank fleshes that out (duels, debates, tournaments,coupe, etc)t. Without it, there are better strategy games out there.
Random ranking list easily found with X at the top: https://www.ranker.com/list/romance-of-the-three-kingdoms-games/video-game-info
Every list is subjective but X had some pretty unique draws in it's RPG-ness that usually make it into people's top 3
The role playing system is one of the most fun but there are some very poor mechanics and balance, which includes some of very critical flaws compared to other games. Like how AI autoresolve combat in cities considering city defense values for example, even your city have tons of troops you will still lose in autoresolve if city defense goes to 0 in auto resolve. Or how broken ranged piercing units are/tower and the "direct" command. RTK IX for example has one of the weakest presentation and least role playing, however it has much less balance problem, and more robust AI along with game mechanics that are designed with the AI capabilities in mind. Another good example is how RTK XIII puk makes the game worse and less balanced than vanilla because they added mechanics that the AI couldn't use properly and makes it very easy for the players to exploit them and gain massive advantage over the ai and thus trivialize the game, like traps or relationship buffs.
There's different types of players who play ROTK, if you look at it from strategy games standpoint X is indeed the weakest in the entry. Great for casual roleplaying though. Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of things that are fun in X, even the debate system is the most fun. It's very strong in the role playing department and there's a lot of fun things you can do, but at the same time it has the most critical flaws which can't be overlooked when you are trying to compare it with other titles in the series.
The only way to rank RTK games fairly is to spend at least 30 hours on each of them (at least the modern ones after the playstation era). Most people who like X the most only play X and two or three other titles at most, and not liking the "ruler" only conquest based ones such as 9 and 11.
Different regions have different "popular opinion" on top 3 of ROTK.
In China it is 9 and 11.
In Japan,
https://w.atwiki.jp/gcmatome/pages/1471.html
This could be a good reference.
(9 is still regarded highly)
I don't know what is the general opinion from the west.
But I will say popular opinion itself is not really meaningful when you are very into gaming
which means you spent more time than average player in gaming.
When you played more games, you have broader taste and experience to compare.
Something that is good might looks meh to you once you play too many games,
Something that is meh might looks good to you once you play too many games.
The audience/underlying population of the poll is more important .
Their nationality, their gaming experience, Their preference, their age , their gender, their job. Otherwise if you simply ask the whole world what is the best PC/console game now.
COD and fortnite will surely on that list...
Well said. This is why many mainstream "game journalist" opinion is rubbish if he/she doesnt even play that much games.
This is why games that are easy to get into (eg. fortnite) are always the most popular. But is it the best game for you? Maybe not.
That's why I've said the only way someone can properly rank rtk games is if they have played most of Koei's historical sim and also other conquest slgs.
And hope that officer play could be added in a PUK?
Literally nobody ever called X trash... X in fact, has so many more refined and finetuned systems than VIII and IX its not funny anymore(loyalty for example.) Just because its not your personal favorite you don't need to try so hard to discredit it. Its certainly a fan favorite on many RTK forums, including the scholars and kongming.
Whatever your personal opinion on the old games might be is irrelevant. VIII & X are often called favorites. IX is pretty much forgotten because XI overshadows it. Whether its your favorite or not, doesn't matter.
lol
Honestly I can't be bothered to even argue about this because it's common knowledge among ch/jp players that X is nowhere close to the top of the contest.
English isn't even my first or SECOND language so your first argument is already out of the window...
Yep, his first part is also using a fallacy. Hell, the whole post is a "no true scotsman" fallacy, by implying that the REAL fans wouldn't rank X that high. Its funny and sad at the same time when someone is so out of their depth...
Its always a sure sign that someone's arguments are not true when they talk in fallacies. But hey, let him toot his horn if it makes him feel better about himself. Its not like he's changing anything at this point.