The Cycle: Frontier

The Cycle: Frontier

Why did this game flop?
Seems like it had the ingredients to be good. When i played the test it was fun. what happened?
Originally posted by TC_Justin:
Hey there! Thanks for the question, I'm glad you at the very least enjoyed the foundation of the world we're trying to create. We love it a lot and want to take good care of it.

I think a game's death is totally subjective, and one of the things I see the most is player's that compare games to websites like Steam Charts and say that the number shown is the total number of people playing the game. I think it is incredibly important to highlight the difference between Concurrent Players, which is how many people are playing "right now", in comparison to something like "Total Logins within 24 hours" which is much different and not shown by Steam Charts. You also have to remember we're a Cross Play title with Epic Games Store, and while you might not use it, our previous game was exclusively available on Epic and the old cosmetics carried over to the new game, so a lot of our "Veteran" players can be found over there!

In a nutshell, the "2,000" or so players that are online at X time are not the same 2,000 players on 12 hours later, or the same 2,000 players the next day, a portion of them are different players, some brand new to the title and genre as well!

If you were to ask me, we're just getting started. We'll be continuing to push out new updates, new content, patches, dev videos, events, and more all year long, and while we will of course work towards growing the playerbase, we want to assure those actively playing the game that we will be right here when they're interested in dropping onto the surface to get their PvPvE fix!

Thanks for the discussion, hope I was able to give some helpful insight! :)
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Sweets Dec 30, 2022 @ 7:50pm 
They still have time to move the game forward and grow I seen hunt showdown at 800players and thought it was doomed but now look at it.
they need to add good content and some more features to the game and work out the glitches. Show players that you care and they will come back
madwolf Dec 30, 2022 @ 8:20pm 
and remove the cheaters...
TempOHs Dec 30, 2022 @ 11:58pm 
Originally posted by madwolf:
and remove the cheaters...
You haven't played lately hardly any cheaters now since the recent patch and every game ever made will always have problems with cheaters, but that's a different topic.
ey Dec 31, 2022 @ 4:12am 
yeah Hunt was on the border of no players there now its a beast
Sweets Dec 31, 2022 @ 10:16am 
I actually finding the game much better now than when it first released
just got killed by "exotic" sniper 10 km away, hiding in a bush...it's fun
Cheaters destroyed this game, it was horrible. It never should have been free to play.
Sweets Dec 31, 2022 @ 9:04pm 
Originally posted by PuffyTheMagicalDragon:
Cheaters destroyed this game, it was horrible. It never should have been free to play.
the trusted servers have improved this greatly
AryanPendragon Jan 1, 2023 @ 5:52pm 
needs "abilities" and "classes" as well as a LFG .... everyone with a gun and pickaxe atm
Apas Skitara Jan 1, 2023 @ 10:51pm 
Needs a real endgame and no wipes....
Losing the whole progress every 3 month may work for some, but a lot of people are put off.....
Warelieus Jan 1, 2023 @ 11:07pm 
Originally posted by Apas Skitara:
Needs a real endgame and no wipes....
Losing the whole progress every 3 month may work for some, but a lot of people are put off.....

No wipes? Are you insane? That would kill the game even faster. Wipes are needed so that new players can pick up the game and not get totally ♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Last edited by Warelieus; Jan 1, 2023 @ 11:09pm
Tnargav Jan 2, 2023 @ 12:45pm 
Originally posted by FRiENEMY™:
Originally posted by Apas Skitara:
Needs a real endgame and no wipes....
Losing the whole progress every 3 month may work for some, but a lot of people are put off.....

No wipes? Are you insane? That would kill the game even faster. Wipes are needed so that new players can pick up the game and not get totally ♥♥♥♥♥♥.
Cuz now the game is booming. New player are ♥♥♥♥ on after few days when all the sweats have all the gear, it doesn't make a difference.
Path of Exile sorted this issue pretty well. I wish they made the same system here.
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TC_Justin Jan 3, 2023 @ 6:27am 
Hey there! Thanks for the question, I'm glad you at the very least enjoyed the foundation of the world we're trying to create. We love it a lot and want to take good care of it.

I think a game's death is totally subjective, and one of the things I see the most is player's that compare games to websites like Steam Charts and say that the number shown is the total number of people playing the game. I think it is incredibly important to highlight the difference between Concurrent Players, which is how many people are playing "right now", in comparison to something like "Total Logins within 24 hours" which is much different and not shown by Steam Charts. You also have to remember we're a Cross Play title with Epic Games Store, and while you might not use it, our previous game was exclusively available on Epic and the old cosmetics carried over to the new game, so a lot of our "Veteran" players can be found over there!

In a nutshell, the "2,000" or so players that are online at X time are not the same 2,000 players on 12 hours later, or the same 2,000 players the next day, a portion of them are different players, some brand new to the title and genre as well!

If you were to ask me, we're just getting started. We'll be continuing to push out new updates, new content, patches, dev videos, events, and more all year long, and while we will of course work towards growing the playerbase, we want to assure those actively playing the game that we will be right here when they're interested in dropping onto the surface to get their PvPvE fix!

Thanks for the discussion, hope I was able to give some helpful insight! :)
Last edited by TC_Justin; Jan 3, 2023 @ 6:28am
Sweets Jan 3, 2023 @ 3:30pm 
Originally posted by Cultrix:
Originally posted by FRiENEMY™:

No wipes? Are you insane? That would kill the game even faster. Wipes are needed so that new players can pick up the game and not get totally ♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Would kill the game for you...

I prefer the Hunt: Showdown system. Everyone at their own pace, and if you want you can Prestige. Everyone at their own pace and to each their own.
ah yes no wipes, everyone running around with brutes forever, pop dwindles from this, new players vs brutes. dead game
Sweets Jan 3, 2023 @ 3:30pm 
Originally posted by Yager Justin:
Hey there! Thanks for the question, I'm glad you at the very least enjoyed the foundation of the world we're trying to create. We love it a lot and want to take good care of it.

I think a game's death is totally subjective, and one of the things I see the most is player's that compare games to websites like Steam Charts and say that the number shown is the total number of people playing the game. I think it is incredibly important to highlight the difference between Concurrent Players, which is how many people are playing "right now", in comparison to something like "Total Logins within 24 hours" which is much different and not shown by Steam Charts. You also have to remember we're a Cross Play title with Epic Games Store, and while you might not use it, our previous game was exclusively available on Epic and the old cosmetics carried over to the new game, so a lot of our "Veteran" players can be found over there!

In a nutshell, the "2,000" or so players that are online at X time are not the same 2,000 players on 12 hours later, or the same 2,000 players the next day, a portion of them are different players, some brand new to the title and genre as well!

If you were to ask me, we're just getting started. We'll be continuing to push out new updates, new content, patches, dev videos, events, and more all year long, and while we will of course work towards growing the playerbase, we want to assure those actively playing the game that we will be right here when they're interested in dropping onto the surface to get their PvPvE fix!

Thanks for the discussion, hope I was able to give some helpful insight! :)
yeah you just got to keep that 2000 happy and grow it from their
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Date Posted: Dec 30, 2022 @ 3:40pm
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