pay to win?

[jx]

can anyone confirm?

[Zoopy]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Riggs:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Robbo:

No it's not. It's pay to get an advantage. Under your logic battlefront 2 was never p2w and neither is diablo immortal.

Explain the advantage.

You start with better gear, but do you know how to use it yet?

I've paid nothing, and day one killed someone in my first game carrying gear they'd clearly paid money to have at that stage, which I proceeded to take. Where was his advantage?

Imagine 2 people with the exact same skill level, one with white gear and one with purple gear.

Which one do you think is statistically more likely to win a fight?

If rarer gear wasn't better and didn't give you any kind of advantage, we wouldn't have rarer gear and they wouldn't sell them in welcome packs. The entire point of welcome packs is to buy them for better gear.

[BoomChook]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Jx:

can anyone confirm?

no while u can buy upto 4 packs they are mainly cosmetic yes they give you a few ingame items but after a lil bit of grinding u can obtain these items anyways

[Grimmsch]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Zoopy:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Riggs:

Explain the advantage.

You start with better gear, but do you know how to use it yet?

I've paid nothing, and day one killed someone in my first game carrying gear they'd clearly paid money to have at that stage, which I proceeded to take. Where was his advantage?

Imagine 2 people with the exact same skill level, one with white gear and one with purple gear.

Which one do you think is statistically more likely to win a fight?

If rarer gear wasn't better and didn't give you any kind of advantage, we wouldn't have rarer gear and they wouldn't sell them in welcome packs. The entire point of welcome packs is to buy them for better gear.

Why do we talk about purple here ?
The welcome packs do not grant weapons above green. The only weapons worth talking about are 2 green Manticores in the highest tier package. They cost 9k each and can be unlocked within a handful of drops.
If we compare the white AR-55 and the manticore vs white armor we talk about 0.846 seconds TTK vs 0.803 seconds TTK. Granted Manticore has an easier recoil pattern but the AR-55 has a higher projectile speed.

If we assume Mr. Starterpack goes all in and runs in blue armor - that is 1.121s vs 0.803s advantage for the first 1-2 hours.

[Uzmari]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย II B0MB3R II:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย TC_Feralus:

the starter packs give you cosmetics and some gear + some weapons. The weapons are not of a higher tier than the stuff Badum gives you at the start of the game. So you can't skip anything with better weapons etc.

No but the armour is of higher tier than what other people start with.

Wow so you have to do 2 extra raids to craft green gear, it’s not bad at all

[Robbo]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Uzmari:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย II B0MB3R II:

No but the armour is of higher tier than what other people start with.

Wow so you have to do 2 extra raids to craft green gear, it’s not bad at all

Are people in this thread even saying it's bad? They are just stating facts in response to a question.

[SnakeShifter]

One thing I noticed was a mobile gaming pay to speed up or skip crafting wait time win type of feature which is pretty gross.

[Rahj Abdul Mohmamed Singh]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Astroz Bistro:

People will spend $100 just for me to take their gear :p

oo your ard

[HUNT97]

ive found better gear within 13 hours of playing lmao this is not pay to win

[SnakeMegmarta]

I just game ended someone who had a green set with the most basic PDW, it would have been easier with a normal gun but even if you buy a starter pack, you just get a couple of items that you can just lose if you get game ended in a match, it's not like in any other game where if you get good loot, you're ahead of others in progression, here you might get lucky, might not, but being good at the game and learning the mechanics is the only real progression which can't be bought,