Wine and Cider production both broken ?

[nocforweb]

So wine can't be made right now. That's just a given (no structure makes it) but calling it out because while searching for that in here various people were trying to say you could and.. you can't. So gonna save people some trouble on that until the next patch.

Cider now... You can unlock and make cider in the brewery. But you can't grow apples (that's what it needs right? I can't find the requirement but that's what logic dictates). So you would have to buy apples... I can get cider x10 for 60 at markets. I can get apples x10 for 60 at markets. So... making cider means paying the same amount but now you have to wait for it too? That seems... silly.

So.. I think the only things you can actually make in the game are Lager and Mead I think? Does that sound right?

[Mr. Wiggles]

From what I remember I managed to brew cider at way less than half its market cost.
Wait for a cheap price, buy in bulk, use the 30% discount

[Wantoomany]

Most production is not a 1 to 1 ratio. I'm unsure on cider, but with ale and lager 5 hops produce 10 drinks. I suspect cider is the same.

In the warehouse panel there is a 2nd tab on lower left of the panel. Click that to see a production window showing all the production ratios.

As far as what drinks you can produce. You can brew Ale, Lager, Cider, and Mead. Ale and lager needs hops, cider needs apples, and mead needs honey. You can produce your own hops and honey but not apples.

[Mr. Wiggles]

Originally posted by Wantoomany:

Most production is not a 1 to 1 ratio. I'm unsure on cider. But ale and lager 5 hops produce 10 drinks. I suspect cider is the same.

In the warehouse panel there is a 2nd tab on lower left of the panel. Click that to see a production window showing all the production ratios.

Yes, 5 apples—>10 cider

[nocforweb]

Ah 1:2 wouldn't be quite as bad, if not earth-shattering

[Omega13]

I know the thread you are talking about, where the guy claimed you could make wine. That guy floated around the forums for a while, claiming a lot of wild things in almost every thread (examples: claimed wine was craftable, claimed gambling wasn't broken when it was, claimed cleaning wasn't broken despite countless threads about it being highly problematic, the list goes on). These were, for the most part, all things that were demonstrably not true. I'm not exactly sure why someone would do that, but here we are. Steam is a mysterious place.

[Quetzalcoatl]

I'd really like for them to open up more crafting possibilities in the game. Make our inn self-sufficient so long as we have the land and resources to provide for it. That means let us make our own Wine (maybe from Grapes?). Give us a new gardening category Orchards to let us grow our own Applies, Grapes and Lemons. Have us raise pigs for Pork and Fat, and cows for Milk. Then a new crafting station to convert Milk to Cheese or Cream.

Expand more options for gardens and trellises. It seems like their options wheel only accepts up to 5 buttons plus the cancel button. So that limits a lot of what we can do in the game, like the garden only giving us Turnips, Potatoes, Garlic, Onion and Cabbages.

Meanwhile, let us have our Adventurers go on a Fishing trip to get Fish and Seafood, or have them go in forests to get Venison and other ingredients in the wild.

[Wantoomany]

The gardens give you up to 7 options. turnips, potatoes, onions, garlic, cabbages, carrots, and cereal

So I don't see why they couldn't expand it further.

[Quetzalcoatl]

Oh damn I forgot two more. My bad.

I'm not really sure what the upper limit number is, but I just thought there is an upper limit based from my observations. Their radial UI can't seem to hold a lot of buttons. Like, could they cram in 15 gardening crops in there and what would it look like?