Phase Shift

Phase Shift

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Rem Apr 26, 2019 @ 7:34am
wii guitar
i have a question i use a wii guitar with a program called WiitarThing gets used for clone hero btw anyways the strumbar works in the menus fine but when i get in game it dos not work anymore
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knapman  [developer] Apr 26, 2019 @ 8:21am 
This is another device we don't have on hand so we are not familiar with how this is handled. How does this program treat the controller, is it converting inputs to key strokes? With keyboard there are per instrument bindings so you would need to go into the options keyboard setup menu to configure each mode you want to play on the device, if its a seen as a gamepad then you can setup your binds in the controller setup menu, with anything non standard you may need to create a new controller preset for it to work correctly
Heston Apr 26, 2019 @ 8:23am 
It is classed as an xInput device, I am having the same issue as Rem
Heston Apr 26, 2019 @ 8:23am 
Also, my orange fret doesn't work
knapman  [developer] Apr 26, 2019 @ 8:35am 
All standard xinput devices should work automatically, if something is showing up as a xinput device but not matching the standard layout then this will cause problems, do you have control over the mappings, or does it provide options to set if its xinput or direct input?

If you don't have any control over the setup then there is an option in the game where you can just globally disable xinput so you can treat everything as a non standard controller and create custom binds as needed in game

if you hit win + r to open the run dialogue, enter
%appdata%\dwsk\Phase Shift

If you navigate through to the Local folder you will find a config.ini inside here you can force xinput to false



Heston Apr 26, 2019 @ 8:36am 
With wiitarthing, you don't have any control, I will try that in a second
Heston Apr 26, 2019 @ 8:53am 
That worked thanks
Rem Apr 26, 2019 @ 9:10am 
ye that worked you dont even have to remap keys just sellect the xbox guitar and it works
Heston Apr 26, 2019 @ 9:47am 
However mine occasionally strums twice when alt strumming. Tried two guitars so far
knapman  [developer] Apr 26, 2019 @ 9:58am 
there has been another report of xinput controllers with similar strum / orange note issues and these are with native controllers, if it turns out to all be the same issue then there is a chance proper xinput mode could work here as well, we need to dig into it a bit, at the moment its a bit of a mystery
Heston Apr 26, 2019 @ 10:34am 
Ah okay. Well I can play songs now which is the good thing, just can't alt strum. When I strum up then down quickly, in the test keybinds part, the up strum sticks and classes as another strum.
Dark Nemesis V2 Apr 26, 2019 @ 1:31pm 
Honestly, I've been using a combination of vJoy and FreePIE as of late (not GlovePIE). It's been working better than any other combination I've had, and I don't have to fiddle with virtual MIDI devices as a crutch to get it working. (On that note, I had to disable the RX and RY axes in vJoy for pre-Steam Phase Shift to recognize the vJoy device... which might be a hint as to why ppJoy never worked for me)

I recently got an 8bitdo wireless adapter but I didn't have luck getting it to work in pre-Steam Phase Shift.
Dark Nemesis V2 Apr 26, 2019 @ 2:36pm 
Now that I'm playing with it, the 8bitdo has 3 modes on it: Dinput, Xinput, and another Dinput

The first Dinput mode mostly works... except for the strum bar. Windows doesn't work with it. This is something that should actually be brought up to 8bitdo themselves and have them fix their driver for.
The Xinput mode has the mapping really messed up: green and red are swapped and the orange button is an axis.
The second Dinput mode shows up in Window and works with it, but Phase Shift doesn't seem to recognize it at all.

It's a great little device for getting things connected to the PC wirelessly, but I can't recommend it for Phase Shift in its current state... best to go with a separate bluetooth adapter, vJoy, and FreePIE in this case (again, disabling RX and RY axes in vJoy!).
Dark Nemesis V2 Apr 29, 2019 @ 5:47pm 
I want to update my previous post on here:

One of the updates fixed some controller configuration stuff. I can reenable the RX and RY in vJoy and Phase Shift will now recognize the vJoy device properly instead of ignoring it completely.

On top of that, I can use the 8bitdo wireless adapter and it works with wireless Wiitars mostly properly now. It shows up as "Wireless Controller." It won't bind the whammy bar, but this is something that the 8bitdo driver doesn't have a mapping for (it does nothing in Windows USB Game Controller configuration panel).

I still can't recommend the 8bitdo wireless adapter if all you want it for is to use Wiitars with Phase Shift... probably still better to get a bluetooth adapter and use vJoy and FreePIE.
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