Session: Skate Sim

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Bailing alot @ ledges
Is there something I am missing when it comes to doing tricks off ledges? like I'll be going to jump down some stairs and unless I jump early my guy falls.

is the game trying to like...account for the front of the board not having ground underneath it for the ollie or is it just a very buggy physics system? I cant really tell.
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might be a stupid question, but are you popping before your front wheels hit the end of the edge/ or the first stair? Its a very realistic game so you cant pop if your front wheels are off the ledge or over the first stair
Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
might be a stupid question, but are you popping before your front wheels hit the end of the edge/ or the first stair? Its a very realistic game so you cant pop if your front wheels are off the ledge or over the first stair
oooothat might be it.
Mr Potato Physics Dec 27, 2023 @ 11:56pm 
Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
Its a very realistic game so you cant pop if your front wheels are off the ledge or over the first stair

In your "logic" of "you can't Ollie unless all wheels are touching the surface", then Ollie's in a Manual would not be possible.

Doesn't matter though, Games just a cash grab right?

To answer the OP though, it has nothing to do with "realism", infact it's the complete opposite. The Game doesn't understand that even if the Front Trucks go over a ledge, you should still have complete control over performing a Trick.

You just have to train your brain to perform the trick earlier. Same applies to tricks out of Grinds, give yourself enough pre-input time.

Yeah.... "realism"
Last edited by Mr Potato Physics; Dec 28, 2023 @ 12:04am
Originally posted by Vicarious:
Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
Its a very realistic game so you cant pop if your front wheels are off the ledge or over the first stair

In your "logic" of "you can't Ollie unless all wheels are touching the surface", then Ollie's in a Manual would not be possible.

Doesn't matter though, Games just a cash grab right?

To answer the OP though, it has nothing to do with "realism", infact it's the complete opposite. The Game doesn't understand that even if the Front Trucks go over a ledge, you should still have complete control over performing a Trick.

You just have to train your brain to perform the trick earlier. Same applies to tricks out of Grinds, give yourself enough pre-input time.

Yeah.... "realism"
When you roll up to ollie a set of stairs you dont manual first, you cant let your trucks roll into the stairs and then pop in real life
That is completely different than ollieing out of a manual, obviously you can ollie out of a manual :steamfacepalm:
Last edited by Oops, I Crapped My Pants; Dec 28, 2023 @ 5:10pm
matsix Dec 28, 2023 @ 5:01pm 
Originally posted by Vicarious:
Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
Its a very realistic game so you cant pop if your front wheels are off the ledge or over the first stair

In your "logic" of "you can't Ollie unless all wheels are touching the surface", then Ollie's in a Manual would not be possible.

Doesn't matter though, Games just a cash grab right?

To answer the OP though, it has nothing to do with "realism", infact it's the complete opposite. The Game doesn't understand that even if the Front Trucks go over a ledge, you should still have complete control over performing a Trick.

You just have to train your brain to perform the trick earlier. Same applies to tricks out of Grinds, give yourself enough pre-input time.

Yeah.... "realism"

The devs actually intentionally added this, I remember them talking about it. It might even be in some old pre release patch notes somewhere. You used to be able to do it in older builds and it makes complete sense that they changed it. If you're getting ready for an ollie and your front wheels go off the edge of something before you ollie you will likely fall or jump off your board. Unless you're intentionally trying to do that and counter it by doing a little manual before (which you can do in the game)
Last edited by matsix; Dec 28, 2023 @ 5:01pm
Mr Potato Physics Dec 28, 2023 @ 5:51pm 
Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
When you roll up to ollie a set of stairs you dont manual first, you cant let your trucks roll into the stairs and then pop in real life
That is completely different than ollieing out of a manual, obviously you can ollie out of a manual :steamfacepalm:

Thanks for the points, however you have completely missed my point... You claim you can't Ollie in Real Life unless you have all wheels on the surface, hence me using a Manual as an example of performing an Ollie without all wheels on the surface...

My point wasn't that "you need to Manual before you Ollie".... dumbest thing I've ever heard, but it was the fact that as you claim this game is just totally realistic [and a cash grab], then if that's the case, a Ollie COULD be performed IN REAL LIFE if you mess up and have your front truck slip off the stairs, you COULD technically still Ollie it.... in real life...

So in regards to your realism statement, there should be a way to not have the Game recognize your bail point yes?

:steamfacepalm:
Last edited by Mr Potato Physics; Dec 28, 2023 @ 5:53pm
Originally posted by Vicarious:
Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
When you roll up to ollie a set of stairs you dont manual first, you cant let your trucks roll into the stairs and then pop in real life
That is completely different than ollieing out of a manual, obviously you can ollie out of a manual :steamfacepalm:

Thanks for the points, however you have completely missed my point... You claim you can't Ollie in Real Life unless you have all wheels on the surface, hence me using a Manual as an example of performing an Ollie without all wheels on the surface...

My point wasn't that "you need to Manual before you Ollie".... dumbest thing I've ever heard, but it was the fact that as you claim this game is just totally realistic [and a cash grab], then if that's the case, a Ollie COULD be performed IN REAL LIFE if you mess up and have your front truck slip off the stairs, you COULD technically still Ollie it.... in real life...

So in regards to your realism statement, there should be a way to not have the Game recognize your bail point yes?

:steamfacepalm:
lol you need to reread this thread. use your context and big boy reading comprehension skills. maybe try a little less seething? :steamhappy:

I am now thoroughly convinced you have never ridden a skateboard in your life
Mr Potato Physics Dec 28, 2023 @ 11:43pm 
Originally posted by Squishy Bloo:
is the game trying to like...account for the front of the board not having ground underneath it for the ollie or is it just a very buggy physics system? I cant really tell.

^^^ OP asking why he is bailing near stairs.

Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
Its a very realistic game so you cant pop if your front wheels are off the ledge or over the first stair

^^^ You explaining how the Games realistic so if you don't have ground under your truck, you just simply CANNOT perform an Ollie in the Game, nor in Real Life.

Originally posted by Vicarious:
it has nothing to do with "realism", infact it's the complete opposite. The Game doesn't understand that even if the Front Trucks go over a ledge, you should still have complete control over performing a Trick.

Yeah.... "realism"

^^^ Me explaining that it is possible to Ollie if your front truck slips off a ledge, it's very possible as an Ollie is performed with the front truck off the Ground... this is like SUPER simple basic learner stuff right here...

Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
lol you need to reread this thread. use your context and big boy reading comprehension skills. maybe try a little less seething? :steamhappy:

^^^ Done.

Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
I am now thoroughly convinced you have never ridden a skateboard in your life

I used to yes, and I have Ollied from such a cause when I have messed up. It's much safer than bailing down a bunch of Stairs if you know you can achieve it.

Maybe at the end of the day I was simply a much better Skateboarder than you. Actually, not maybe, I'd say most definitely.

Although... for someone who can Ollie without taking any Wheels off the ground is certainly some substantial skill right there... actually nah I kid... you were just trash at it I guess.
Last edited by Mr Potato Physics; Dec 28, 2023 @ 11:45pm
Originally posted by Vicarious:
Originally posted by Squishy Bloo:
is the game trying to like...account for the front of the board not having ground underneath it for the ollie or is it just a very buggy physics system? I cant really tell.

^^^ OP asking why he is bailing near stairs.

Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
Its a very realistic game so you cant pop if your front wheels are off the ledge or over the first stair

^^^ You explaining how the Games realistic so if you don't have ground under your truck, you just simply CANNOT perform an Ollie in the Game, nor in Real Life.

Originally posted by Vicarious:
it has nothing to do with "realism", infact it's the complete opposite. The Game doesn't understand that even if the Front Trucks go over a ledge, you should still have complete control over performing a Trick.

Yeah.... "realism"

^^^ Me explaining that it is possible to Ollie if your front truck slips off a ledge, it's very possible as an Ollie is performed with the front truck off the Ground... this is like SUPER simple basic learner stuff right here...

Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
lol you need to reread this thread. use your context and big boy reading comprehension skills. maybe try a little less seething? :steamhappy:

^^^ Done.

Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
I am now thoroughly convinced you have never ridden a skateboard in your life

I used to yes, and I have Ollied from such a cause when I have messed up. It's much safer than bailing down a bunch of Stairs if you know you can achieve it.

Maybe at the end of the day I was simply a much better Skateboarder than you. Actually, not maybe, I'd say most definitely.

Although... for someone who can Ollie without taking any Wheels off the ground is certainly some substantial skill right there... actually nah I kid... you were just trash at it I guess.

Try again, use your big boy brain...I know you can do it bro! :steamhappy:
Mr Potato Physics Dec 29, 2023 @ 1:11pm 
Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
Try again, use your big boy brain...I know you can do it bro! :steamhappy:

There's only so much I can do to prove you wrong, unlike you who instead of explaining in detail, would much rather Troll.

So you enjoy your realism that doesn't provide realism, and enjoy being a terrible wanna-be skater in the big boy world.
Originally posted by Vicarious:
Originally posted by Oops, I Crapped My Pants:
Try again, use your big boy brain...I know you can do it bro! :steamhappy:

There's only so much I can do to prove you wrong, unlike you who instead of explaining in detail, would much rather Troll.

So you enjoy your realism that doesn't provide realism, and enjoy being a terrible wanna-be skater in the big boy world.
The only thing you have proved is that you lack any kind of reading comprehension :steamhappy:. From someone who has skated for 15 + years, if you think you can just ride into a set of stairs and then pop your ollie you are legitimately clueless to how skateboarding works. You have to pop before the stairs, that is common sense (which sadly, just like reading skills, you lack...many such cases!) Not much else I can say there.

The context of this entire thread is about skating down stuff. Go try and roll up to a set of stairs in real life and let your front trucks go down the stairs before you pop...you will fall and i guarantee it because you have to pop BEFORE the stairs. What is so hard to understand about that? That is what the entire thread has been about. You can't read and you insist on claiming i said "you can't ollie if your front truck is off the ground" :steamfacepalm: You literally can't read bro
Mr Potato Physics Dec 29, 2023 @ 11:06pm 
If your front truck slips off the stairs... IN REAL LIFE... you can still pop the back and flick the front, as the Front doesn't need to have solid ground.... will it be an amazing Ollie? Nope, but it's still possible... Maybe YOU need to learn how to skateboard... 15 years just means you've had 15 years of being bad at it... well done...

=]
Last edited by Mr Potato Physics; Dec 29, 2023 @ 11:07pm
I would luck me Dec 30, 2023 @ 8:16am 
Originally posted by Vicarious:
If your front truck slips off the stairs... IN REAL LIFE... you can still pop the back and flick the front, as the Front doesn't need to have solid ground.... will it be an amazing Ollie? Nope, but it's still possible... Maybe YOU need to learn how to skateboard... 15 years just means you've had 15 years of being bad at it... well done...

=]

You could always show a video of it happening?
Originally posted by I would luck me:
Originally posted by Vicarious:
If your front truck slips off the stairs... IN REAL LIFE... you can still pop the back and flick the front, as the Front doesn't need to have solid ground.... will it be an amazing Ollie? Nope, but it's still possible... Maybe YOU need to learn how to skateboard... 15 years just means you've had 15 years of being bad at it... well done...

=]

You could always show a video of it happening?
Go ahead and post a clip Vicarious, Mr Pro Skater. We will be waiting patiently.....
Mr Potato Physics Dec 31, 2023 @ 12:56pm 
Sorry I don't skateboard anymore, nor own one. But I whipped this up for you though to show you how real men do it.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A66LmReZAFo
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