a new skateboarding experience

[drakk]

disappointed for the future of SESSION? don't lose hope, virtual sim skateboarding isn't dead yet
https://zellahgames.carrd.co/

[Conker]

its pre alpha ... so its faaaaaaaaaaar away

also i like session and will play the s.hit out of it when 1.0 drops
but yeah sad to see the cuts

[Sheets]

the cuts in the new blog post really hurt. thought that session would take over for skating games right now. easy day with skater xl already lost the trust of the community because they're lazy, i dont wanna see creature do the same. but to cut junes update and to cut the vert/grabs from v1 makes it seem like they're cutting half the game. (vert was a funding goal on the kickstarter that was reached btw) what else are they going to add if not transition? new maps? you added a map for vert and we cant even ride it. cool.

[COB]

was about to buy this but daamn those cuts really hurt, especially the vert part :(

[Pig Mac]

Post 1.0 support already promised/guaranteed for Session.. Yes some cuts were more than unfortunate, and the start of the long awaited dev-blogs were almost a 2 year windup SXL kick in the balls.. but at least they were honest and clear about ver 1.0

(..you drooling drama-queen. No one in any of the 'skating camps' have missed out a single post or tweet Zellah have made)

[drakk]

Originally posted by COB:

was about to buy this but daamn those cuts really hurt, especially the vert part :(

don't get me wrong, this game is just a must have, that's absolutely why I'm disappointed with this brutal cut to rush the release, like it was done with SXL... I thought these guys had more integrity.

[.FLVTLVNDP0$$€.]

Are we getting the update this month..
I mean I really love this game, and further updates would be really nice it has it's potential, fingers crossed

[Pig Mac]

Originally posted by .FLVTLVNDP0$$€.:

Are we getting the update this month..
I mean I really love this game, and further updates would be really nice it has it's potential, fingers crossed

No update until full release sadly.. Making a June release would force them to find a stable build of what is changed on a daily basis more or less, lock down the things that work so that they.. work and don't bug out, as a lot of stuff have done in every release/update since launch.. Test it a lot, so their last release before 1.0 wouldn't be buggy, and they would probably, due to finalizing contracts and legals overall, have to more or less hide a LOT of the stuff they have in the code..and with 'hide' I'd say 'completely temporary remove' a lot of content.
As every release this far have been 'opened' around a minute of it's release, and the reason not everything found in the files have been leaked, is due to a 'We dig through your files, but will not 'publicly' tell what we found' mutual policy in the community.

Yes no June update actually sucks!
Mostly since they waved their flyer proudly showing the roadmap.. and running over the roadmap before it's stage 2, of the 3 mentioned.
On the other hand you/we already bought the game, and will get the 1.0 earlier than we expected/hoped, so lets pretend the 1.0 is a well polished update, before they manage to add more goodies post launch? ..at least that's what I'm pretending currently.. while playing a truck sim instead.

[elsewhere]

Originally posted by Pig Mac:

Originally posted by .FLVTLVNDP0$$€.:

Are we getting the update this month..
I mean I really love this game, and further updates would be really nice it has it's potential, fingers crossed

No update until full release sadly.. Making a June release would force them to find a stable build of what is changed on a daily basis more or less, lock down the things that work so that they.. work and don't bug out, as a lot of stuff have done in every release/update since launch.. Test it a lot, so their last release before 1.0 wouldn't be buggy, and they would probably, due to finalizing contracts and legals overall, have to more or less hide a LOT of the stuff they have in the code..and with 'hide' I'd say 'completely temporary remove' a lot of content.
As every release this far have been 'opened' around a minute of it's release, and the reason not everything found in the files have been leaked, is due to a 'We dig through your files, but will not 'publicly' tell what we found' mutual policy in the community.

Yes no June update actually sucks!
Mostly since they waved their flyer proudly showing the roadmap.. and running over the roadmap before it's stage 2, of the 3 mentioned.
On the other hand you/we already bought the game, and will get the 1.0 earlier than we expected/hoped, so lets pretend the 1.0 is a well polished update, before they manage to add more goodies post launch? ..at least that's what I'm pretending currently.. while playing a truck sim instead.

It's silly for them to 'hide' code in early access. The whole point of Early Access is to show us a completed game with the help of the community to test and suggest features BEFORE it reaches retail. They are treating Session as if it's already a finished game to where they're trying to hide the content of DLC, but it's not even a finished game and they're hiding the content of updates regarding an actual finished game.

[Pig Mac]

Originally posted by MOD.EST:

It's silly for them to 'hide' code in early access. The whole point of Early Access is to show us a completed game with the help of the community to test and suggest features BEFORE it reaches retail. They are treating Session as if it's already a finished game to where they're trying to hide the content of DLC, but it's not even a finished game and they're hiding the content of updates regarding an actual finished game.

They've gotten enough feedback during the many years it's been in the making (I weren't around for the Kickstarter times, so hadn't even heard about it before it were announced as Early Access, while I were just playing SXL)
They also have their own goals and ideas.. that hopefully comes after 1.0 if it sells enough.
Hiding 'code' in itself is not the thing.. more like 'hiding' brands and pros that aren't finalized, animations that (obviously didn't all make it to 1.0).. that still are in the game, while not being fully past 'legal department'.
Skipping a June release they had announced is sadly a lot because they would have to put half the team on removing everything 'not yet to be public due to not finished' that one earlier could dig around and find, and make sure it were almost free of bugs, while removing all the 'uncertains' as hiding isn't that easy and would mess up as much as temporary remove it.
If someone haven't given them their feedback by now, it's pretty certain too late for it for 1.0 release anyway, or thought about and mentioned several times already.

[elsewhere]

Originally posted by Pig Mac:

Originally posted by MOD.EST:

It's silly for them to 'hide' code in early access. The whole point of Early Access is to show us a completed game with the help of the community to test and suggest features BEFORE it reaches retail. They are treating Session as if it's already a finished game to where they're trying to hide the content of DLC, but it's not even a finished game and they're hiding the content of updates regarding an actual finished game.

They've gotten enough feedback during the many years it's been in the making (I weren't around for the Kickstarter times, so hadn't even heard about it before it were announced as Early Access, while I were just playing SXL)
They also have their own goals and ideas.. that hopefully comes after 1.0 if it sells enough.
Hiding 'code' in itself is not the thing.. more like 'hiding' brands and pros that aren't finalized, animations that (obviously didn't all make it to 1.0).. that still are in the game, while not being fully past 'legal department'.
Skipping a June release they had announced is sadly a lot because they would have to put half the team on removing everything 'not yet to be public due to not finished' that one earlier could dig around and find, and make sure it were almost free of bugs, while removing all the 'uncertains' as hiding isn't that easy and would mess up as much as temporary remove it.
If someone haven't given them their feedback by now, it's pretty certain too late for it for 1.0 release anyway, or thought about and mentioned several times already.

I would agree with you if it weren't things like the resolution bug STILL being present in the game since the 0.0.0.2b and the fact that the game physics is STILL tied to the framerate and a plethora of other small bugs they could have simply tackled but Crea-ture wants to work backwards and push for big features as to not miss deadline while still shipping out a V1 to retail with the SAME BUGS it had in Beta.

[Pig Mac]

If it still have the 'randomly exploding trucks' in 1.0 I will definitely start to worry a bit.. if for nothing else so for how the game will be received on consoles (the playstations at least, the ones that haven't had a chance to try the game in it's unfinished state, as the at least Xboxers have had a chance to do)
If it 'fails' on the consoles, they must start to think that every current skate-game dev actually hates them, and probably would personally come home to them at night and set their console on fire, while cursing at their puppy.

(I only read a few descriptions/complaints on how the last update messed up the performance on the older xboxes a lot, from console users. But heck, It's about as 'easy' to get a PS5 as it is to get a 3090 card, for just the price of a decent car and the loss of just one kidney, and that with quite good timing too)

[hunne]

Originally posted by Pig Mac:

Post 1.0 support already promised/guaranteed for Session..

nothing is promised...it reads "possible" as in "if the sales don't reach the numbers we expect you can go and eat sh.." best, NACON

cutting that update on the premise that something needs to be hidden is just showing their incompetence...didn't know that 3 months ago when that roadmap finally made it to the steam forum? Pushing for bloody console release is also a big red flag for me... There's so much stuff still unadressed, like proper goofy stance, trickname display etc. etc. I highly doubt it will be a successful launch.

[elsewhere]

Originally posted by hunne:

Originally posted by Pig Mac:

Post 1.0 support already promised/guaranteed for Session..

nothing is promised...it reads "possible" as in "if the sales don't reach the numbers we expect you can go and eat sh.." best, NACON

cutting that update on the premise that something needs to be hidden is just showing their incompetence...didn't know that 3 months ago when that roadmap finally made it to the steam forum? Pushing for bloody console release is also a big red flag for me... There's so much stuff still unadressed, like proper goofy stance, trickname display etc. etc. I highly doubt it will be a successful launch.

I don't know how the hell they are planning on fixing issues in a few months that they couldn't fix given years since 0.2b.

[hunne]

read what NACON wrote on their website concerning 2023...this premature release is NOT related to Skate 4, which kinda scares me even more

uhm, sorry Drakk, seems your thread got hijacked...that game sure looks promising

[Pig Mac]

Originally posted by hunne:

Originally posted by Pig Mac:

Post 1.0 support already promised/guaranteed for Session..

nothing is promised...it reads "possible" as in "if the sales don't reach the numbers we expect you can go and eat sh.." best, NACON

cutting that update on the premise that something needs to be hidden is just showing their incompetence...didn't know that 3 months ago when that roadmap finally made it to the steam forum? Pushing for bloody console release is also a big red flag for me... There's so much stuff still unadressed, like proper goofy stance, trickname display etc. etc. I highly doubt it will be a successful launch.

It IS promised.. not for how long and how much, as sales will probably decide that.. who knows, they might just release a pants DLC 2 years from now.
But post 1.0 development IS promised (good pants are also kinda promised at 1.0, so that DLC wouldn't be needed)