What happened to performance?! The game runs worse now than ever before. - HELP

[.hK-]

Does anyone have any idea how to fix performance?
The game always ran on Ultra + Mods ( both physics and graphics ) with good frames and no issue at all.
Now after the update DOESNT MATTER how i tweak it settings, the frames are all over the place. Lots of FPS drops and scren tearing and ocasionally freezing and crashing.
The game was installed with the clean install methoded posted by JL on his community tab before the update. (deleting everything from steam folder and %localappdata + removing all mods and mod tools.
Also what is the game doing that from time to time it show me a sspinning session wheel on the top right corner?
Any help is welcome. Thanks in advance

[TheTwistedHero]

idk what happened for you, but somehow i got better performance after the update, i am on an i5-10400f and a 1650, now granted i play on lower settings and get a solid 60fps, but i barely go 20fps before. there is a post in the guides section on here that helps with some ghosting and motion blur and helped my fps a little. sorry couldn't be to much help.

[.hK-]

Originally posted by TheTwistedHero:

idk what happened for you, but somehow i got better performance after the update, i am on an i5-10400f and a 1650, now granted i play on lower settings and get a solid 60fps, but i barely go 20fps before. there is a post in the guides section on here that helps with some ghosting and motion blur and helped my fps a little. sorry couldn't be to much help.

20fps is unplayble. My game now stays ate 60 and above most of the time but in some places, specially in san francisco my fps goes to the 40s. Honestly anything under 60fps is unplayable. I made some tweaks to get the game to run mostly on 60fps but still not performing as it should. I will look for those posts you mentioned perhaps it helps me a bit.
Thanks for aswering

[Vorador]

i have same but only on 2 maps. On other maps it's perfect with all at medium. But on 2 other maps, even on super low with a small resolution, it s 20/30 fps.
BUT ! if you look to the ground on those maps the game run good ( or when there is less things to "view" like on maps border. i'm sure that add a option of "distance of view " could solve it

[d0x360]

4k ultra is a solid 100+fps for me

[KaelaNikNak]

I had some bad tearing when i first launched 1.0. V-sync on in settings and everything is smooth now 60FPS locked. All graphics settings are default. I never modded the game, I suspect your problem stems from that somehow.

[.hK-]

Originally posted by Vorador:

i have same but only on 2 maps. On other maps it's perfect with all at medium. But on 2 other maps, even on super low with a small resolution, it s 20/30 fps.
BUT ! if you look to the ground on those maps the game run good ( or when there is less things to "view" like on maps border. i'm sure that add a option of "distance of view " could solve it

I see... I'm running it at custom. Rendering scale bar is full, shadows medium, all the rest is high. Honestly for me even if i put EVERYTHING on low the game keeps the "same" frame rate and keeps dropping frames. Because i have so much screen tearing that if i don't use vsync i cant play.

[.hK-]

Originally posted by KaelaNikNak:

I had some bad tearing when i first launched 1.0. V-sync on in settings and everything is smooth now 60FPS locked. All graphics settings are default. I never modded the game, I suspect your problem stems from that somehow.

I have no clue, since I clean installed the game and didn't put any mods on it i suspect it has nothing to do with it. Im having to use vsync as well because of screen tearing, but as mentioned frame drops are noticiable when playing. Specially on San Francisco. I had a chat with other people, that have way better rig than mine, and they related similar issues on the same areas. I'm pretty sure it is just the game being badly optimized/rushed for the "full" release. That and also the fact that my rig isn't the best. But regardless of that it should run the game with acceptable graphics at 60+ fps no problem as it used to before the 1.0 update.

[.hK-]

Originally posted by d0x360:

4k ultra is a solid 100+fps for me

Thanks. Im glad you have no issues. It seems you have a way above avarege rig though. So optimization problems doesn't do much for you since you can run it fine anyway. :)

[Vorador]

Originally posted by .hK-:

Originally posted by Vorador:

i have same but only on 2 maps. On other maps it's perfect with all at medium. But on 2 other maps, even on super low with a small resolution, it s 20/30 fps.
BUT ! if you look to the ground on those maps the game run good ( or when there is less things to "view" like on maps border. i'm sure that add a option of "distance of view " could solve it

I see... I'm running it at custom. Rendering scale bar is full, shadows medium, all the rest is high. Honestly for me even if i put EVERYTHING on low the game keeps the "same" frame rate and keeps dropping frames. Because i have so much screen tearing that if i don't use vsync i cant play.

i dont have a lot of tearig personnally. just the framerate problem cause, i think, it s not optimized enough ( we can play without any problems on other maps).
but as i said you dot need to optimized everything if you just set the option to reduce the distance of view. Even for tearing.

[drakk]

Originally posted by Vorador:

i dont have a lot of tearig personnally. just the framerate problem cause, i think, it s not optimized enough ( we can play without any problems on other maps).
but as i said you dot need to optimized everything if you just set the option to reduce the distance of view. Even for tearing.

while waiting for an option, you can eventually edit it yourself
> %LocalAppData%\SessionGame\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor; add to the bottom of the engine.ini
r.ViewDistanceScale=0.7 (or other value below 1)

[Vorador]

Originally posted by drakk:

Originally posted by Vorador:

i dont have a lot of tearig personnally. just the framerate problem cause, i think, it s not optimized enough ( we can play without any problems on other maps).
but as i said you dot need to optimized everything if you just set the option to reduce the distance of view. Even for tearing.

while waiting for an option, you can eventually edit it yourself
> %LocalAppData%\SessionGame\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor; add to the bottom of the engine.ini
r.ViewDistanceScale=0.7 (or other value below 1)

OH thanks a lot !! i'll try this definetly !

[.hK-]

Originally posted by drakk:

Originally posted by Vorador:

i dont have a lot of tearig personnally. just the framerate problem cause, i think, it s not optimized enough ( we can play without any problems on other maps).
but as i said you dot need to optimized everything if you just set the option to reduce the distance of view. Even for tearing.

while waiting for an option, you can eventually edit it yourself
> %LocalAppData%\SessionGame\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor; add to the bottom of the engine.ini
r.ViewDistanceScale=0.7 (or other value below 1)

Thank u sir, didnt fix my fps in the locations it drops.
Also tried the Clown fix and the max fps guide, both made the game look bad and didnt fix my problem. As stated i can run the game on all low and the fps still tanks in some locations. Playing in philly for example i have a steady 60fps (im using vsyn) playing in san francisco FPS tanks to 40FPS depending of location. The graphitti wall at the pool near the tenis court tanks my fps to 45 just to skate past it, and it is a simple blue wall with text on it lmao.

[drakk]

I had read that your problem could be related to the display distance, hence the proposed function; however I do not encounter any problem personally, on the contrary, the game is more fluid for me; I therefore modified my ini file to have better graphics than those offered in the game; however I now notice that the trees in the new area have an impact (sg.FoliageQuality=3 changed to > sg.FoliageQuality=4).
experimental animation and pedestrians also have a huge impact on FPS.
if you wish, look at this > https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.26/en-US/TestingAndOptimization/PerformanceAndProfiling/Scalability/ScalabilityReference/

[Vorador]

Originally posted by drakk:

Originally posted by Vorador:

i dont have a lot of tearig personnally. just the framerate problem cause, i think, it s not optimized enough ( we can play without any problems on other maps).
but as i said you dot need to optimized everything if you just set the option to reduce the distance of view. Even for tearing.

while waiting for an option, you can eventually edit it yourself
> %LocalAppData%\SessionGame\Saved\Config\WindowsNoEditor; add to the bottom of the engine.ini
r.ViewDistanceScale=0.7 (or other value below 1)

i tryed it and it works. It's not perfect but i'm really close to 60 fps and i don't see any difference to be honnest. i setr it at 0.3 ( yes my computer is now awesome XD)
i also checked the gameUserSettings.ini to check the foilage quality as @drakk said :

Originally posted by drakk:

I had read that your problem could be related to the display distance, hence the proposed function; however I do not encounter any problem personally, on the contrary, the game is more fluid for me; I therefore modified my ini file to have better graphics than those offered in the game; however I now notice that the trees in the new area have an impact (sg.FoliageQuality=3 changed to > sg.FoliageQuality=4).
experimental animation and pedestrians also have a huge impact on FPS.
if you wish, look at this > https://docs.unrealengine.com/4.26/en-US/TestingAndOptimization/PerformanceAndProfiling/Scalability/ScalabilityReference/

here are my settings : [ScalabilityGroups]
sg.ShadingQuality=1
sg.ViewDistanceQuality=1
sg.AntiAliasingQuality=1
sg.ShadowQuality=1
sg.PostProcessQuality=1
sg.TextureQuality=1
sg.EffectsQuality=1
sg.FoliageQuality=1

i'll try few more things but the games works better. Thanks to all :)
i just have to wait they otpi the map or something i guess but at least i can do missions for the moment

[6raveyard]

Good to know I am not the only one suddenly having weird performance issues. For me, it seems the longer I run the game, the worse it gets while before 1.0, I ran on ultra as well with about 120 fps minimum at all times. Now I can't even get a solid 60 at medium settings. Runs great when first launching, then the performance just slowly gets worse and worse.