Dead?

[MaceLupo]

Will this ever come out, or is it a corpse on Steam, like so many other promising games?

[scottz63]

Not much action here for sure. Makes you wonder.

[H'Sishi]

They have a Discord running, with some interaction between users and devs.

[Setorrs The Lollygagger]

Looks like it's dead. Removed it from wish list 2 or 3 months ago.

[Turbo-Laser Ninjadragon]

IDK, hard to say. when A dev goes silent for this long and doesn't have any road map or clearly noticeable progress updates for a really long time it usually means the project is dead.

I don't use discord and don't want to. If the requirement is that you HAVE to use it to get the pertinent updates then that's it's own kind of not so great sign.

Every forthright indie dev at this point who releases an EA game (which is what I presume this would be) HAS a road map with deadlines for features and uses it to insure that their following stays confident.


it's just not a good idea to let the imaginations of generally pessimistic people decide for your company what it's fate will be, because in the marketplace mass perception effects value.

in a way it doesn't even matter if the project is still a go and progress is just slow because if people decide that it's vaporware in the midterm they just won't be able to win most of those back. You could announce release and they might just write the announcement off as nothing but more hype. You can't trust them to read it past a point.

Used to be that if an AAA game company announced a game 6 years in advance and said "we're working on it" you knew that was true because there is a large business at work there making sure that those claims are factual. Now we don't trust those same companies to turn out a good product but we still trust it to exist.

it's not really the case with indie devs. it's kind a the reverse. We know it will be good IF it turns out to exist.


I don't want this project to be dead. I'm not even that into dwarves and it looks awesome, I would buy it in a hot second if it released , hell I might buy several copies, but THERE IS a point where one starts to feel like a sucker.

there's no real virtue in standing around in silence waiting. that's not loyalty or faith, after a while it's passivity and helplessness.

[MaceLupo]

Originally posted by Turbo-Laser Ninjadragon:

IDK, hard to say. when A dev goes silent for this long and doesn't have any road map or clearly noticeable progress updates for a really long time it usually means the project is dead.

I don't use discord and don't want to. If the requirement is that you HAVE to use it to get the pertinent updates then that's it's own kind of not so great sign.

Every forthright indie dev at this point who releases an EA game (which is what I presume this would be) HAS a road map with deadlines for features and uses it to insure that their following stays confident.


it's just not a good idea to let the imaginations of generally pessimistic people decide for your company what it's fate will be, because in the marketplace mass perception effects value.

in a way it doesn't even matter if the project is still a go and progress is just slow because if people decide that it's vaporware in the midterm they just won't be able to win most of those back. You could announce release and they might just write the announcement off as nothing but more hype. You can't trust them to read it past a point.

Used to be that if an AAA game company announced a game 6 years in advance and said "we're working on it" you knew that was true because there is a large business at work there making sure that those claims are factual. Now we don't trust those same companies to turn out a good product but we still trust it to exist.

it's not really the case with indie devs. it's kind a the reverse. We know it will be good IF it turns out to exist.


I don't want this project to be dead. I'm not even that into dwarves and it looks awesome, I would buy it in a hot second if it released , hell I might buy several copies, but THERE IS a point where one starts to feel like a sucker.

there's no real virtue in standing around in silence waiting. that's not loyalty or faith, after a while it's passivity and helplessness.

Well written.

[crazydimond]

Sad, Return to Moria, while having a couple of rough edges, was a damn good time. I've played it through a couple of times now. I was hoping for more dwarven goodness and a slightly different take/interpretation.

[H'Sishi]

Well it would be an "It's still in development" sign if the devs would file the Age Rating form within Steam so it shows up in the game search results again.

[Schlumpsha]

Originally posted by H'Sishi:

Well it would be an "It's still in development" sign if the devs would file the Age Rating form within Steam so it shows up in the game search results again.

They finally came around and did that. Still not great that it took them a month to file out a survey with a handful of questions. But at least Return to Nangrim has a functioning steam page again.

The same cannot be said from the studio's Arafinn Kontor steam page.

[scottz63]

Be nice to see or hear something from the Devs here.

[Gilgamesh]

Of course it's dead. It was a promising first person fantasy game. We're not allowed to have those. Just infinite Skyrim anniversary editions.

[Maxxanth]

Had it on my wishlist for 3 years before finally saying ♥♥♥ it.

[Gilgamesh]

deader than ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Frosty]

Joined their discord since I was curious as well, they're still working on it, last message from one of the devs: March 17th, states they're working on it and making progress but slowly. They're a smaller dev team so taking their time.

[MaceLupo]

Originally posted by Frosty:

Joined their discord since I was curious as well, they're still working on it, last message from one of the devs: March 17th, states they're working on it and making progress but slowly. They're a smaller dev team so taking their time.

I would like that to be true. I am not saying it is or not.

[Legendary Memer]

Seems to be dead. I wishlisted it when the playable demo was out. I didn't expect this game to go out already, but I expected devs to keep us updated on what they are doing. "We are still working, too busy to post an update" is a really bad excuse for someone who claims to be close with their community.