Dawn of Man or Ancient Cities?

[Lurking Buddha]

Which ones better?

[NephilimSoldier]

Dawn of Man is a $25 game. As of right now, Ancient Cities is a $50 game concept demo, based on what I've seen.

[The_Count]

dawn of man, its better fleshed than ancient cities is at the moment, you'll love dawn of man :)

[Potato Soup]

For the time being Dawn of man is the best. In time if the devs deliver what is promised Ancient Cities may be better than Dawn of man. We just have to wait and see.

[KingPhilipII]

I feel like ancient cities was the original concept and dawn of man won the race. Not 100 % sure though. Ima play both.

[polcorp]

Originally posted by Lurking Buddha:

Which ones better?

If you liked Dawn of Man, I recommend a game that is still in development: Bastide. I just found it out.
The price is modest (compared to Ancient City), there are regular updates. But you are going to be passionate about this game.

Principle: you are at the beginning of the 13th century. You start with 7 villagers ... and you have to develop your city.

In the game criteria you can decide if you want an enemy city or not.
If you want an enemy city, it will expand (like yours) and attack you. But you can also attack it and carry out looting raids against it with your army.
If you play without an enemy city, there are inhabitants in the mountains: they only attack you when you get close to them (expanding your city). You can also attack them.
Merchants pass through your city. But you can also send your merchants to export your surplus goods by building docks.

This game is in development, but it's as rich as Dawn of Man. If you are a fan of Dawn of Man, you will spend hours of gaming on Bastide.

[Captain Seasick]

Dawn of Man is better in every single way. It's more polished, it has broader and deeper gameplay, much smoother performance, and above all, it's a helluva lot cheaper. Ancient Cities isn't worth even half its price as it is. I'd say it should be priced (AT MOST) at 15€, but the devs of it are incompetent arseholes more concerned with exsanguinating their customers financially than delivering a quality product.

And before anyone accuses me of shilling here (unlikely, but still), I'd like to add that I was and still am (though slightly less so now) critical of Madruga Works' own work ethics, in part because they refused to "re-implement" a free camera movement option into DoM. But they've proven that they at least had the decency and dedication to make their game playable before putting it on the dev-shelf.

[threethreethree]

Does Ancient Cities even exist yet? I thought that it was still in forever-tease mode.

[polcorp]

Originally posted by threethreethree:

Does Ancient Cities even exist yet? I thought that it was still in forever-tease mode.

For my part Ancient Cities interests me, but I'm waiting to see. Many players complain about the lack of real evolution, apart from paid DLC....

[El Presidente]

Ancient Cities has been out for several months now. I haven't played for awhile. It is in EA and I was waiting for more content. Maybe after this DOM playthru I will try AC again but in my opion it is not worth 50 dollars yet.

[The Victorianist]

Originally posted by NephilimSoldier:

Dawn of Man is a $25 game. As of right now, Ancient Cities is a $50 game concept demo, based on what I've seen.

Not a demo. The game is set in the Mesolithic which does not have much to do in reality.
The Neolithic will come but AC is pushing out updates, and the team is smaller than DoM, since DoM was made by a company who copy and pasted Planetbase to make DoM as they're just the same game in different Eras.

A product which can easily be built off another vs one with their own engine(which they admitted was not the best idea) and everything from the ground up with no foundations or copy and paste like DoM can do with Planetbase.

[Ludicrum Exosus]

Stay away from "Ancient Cities".

[fallingout]

I don't agree that DoM is just a reskin of Planetbase. They come from the same company, but DoM is way more complicated and interesting. I don't see the reskin others have mentioned, having played both.

[korac]

Originally posted by fallingout:

I don't agree that DoM is just a reskin of Planetbase. They come from the same company, but DoM is way more complicated and interesting. I don't see the reskin others have mentioned, having played both.

I would concur. I've also played both extensively and while there are definite similarities in some basic aspects (I believe Planetbase's engine was adapted and expanded upon for DoM, which makes perfect sense for a small Indy company), the more you play, the more you can appreciate the many differences & added improvements. In my view, at the end of the day they play completely differently and both are highly enjoyable in their own right - especially because the actual game setting is about as far apart as it's possible to get. :D

A note on Ancient Cities, just to remain on-topic. Yes, that game had a rough time of it at launch for not quite living up to promises / expectations, but to their credit the devs have continued to work at it diligently and I doubt I'm the only one to think that it shows real promise. I find it extremely relaxing & enjoyable, and it's definitely one I will return to again and again as things grow & develop. And this coming from a die-hard DoM fan who slated the hell out of Ancient Cities back in the day... read that as you will. :)

Ancient Cities is currently on a 50% offer until April 1st. If you enjoy DoM, give it a try.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/667610/Ancient_Cities/