If you cannot set people to do things the game is broken

[angriff]

This is complete madness. I cannot get these guys to build a cart no matter priority of anything. When I delete the task to get it back in order as it is not building it without leather and wont do leather because of the chart. You have to be able to set risk of not making harvest an reassign people. Or at least set 1,2,3,4 priorities

[Pvt.Laurin]

Thats exactly why i refunded the game.

[angriff]

70 people and I cant get them to do one simple thing. You might as turn off everything and watch them die

[Draken]

Well, I currently have 47 carts....

You just need the resources, a happy productive worker with some free time, and you got a cart.

Edit: Granted, it took a while, but my leather production just wasn't high enought to crank them out by the dozends.

[Kitten Food]

Originally posted by Draken:

Well, I currently have 47 carts....

You just need the resources, a happy productive worker with some free time, and you got a cart.

Edit: Granted, it took a while, but my leather production just wasn't high enought to crank them out by the dozends.

Game is bugged to hell. "You" may get carts to be built, but its a random toss if a new game will have this bug or not. Either you can build them and the pathfinding is fine, or your game gets bugged and will never build them again. It isn't about "you" it is about repeated bugs. This should be a priority fix asap.

[Draken]

Originally posted by Kitten Food:

Game is bugged to hell. "You" may get carts to be built, but its a random toss if a new game will have this bug or not. Either you can build them and the pathfinding is fine, or your game gets bugged and will never build them again. It isn't about "you" it is about repeated bugs. This should be a priority fix asap.

If it's a bug, yes. If you overload your workers so they don't have enought time or missing some ressources, it's your fault.

If you have all the necessary ressource, your workload (7), is below 50% and your people are slacking of (6) and they still won't build it, make a save and send it to the developers.

[SPC.Reuvil]

This is NOT an issue. Just because you can't make them do X this second does not mean the game is broken or bugged. The AI will do whatever task they think is most important. This depends on their work load, food levels, thirst, mood, etc.

Set the the thing to get built or done and then go mess with something else. It WILL get done when your villagers have time to do it based upon their needs.

Planning ahead will avoid most headaches. Don't create too many manual tasks as well.

Don't build 15 sledges and think they'll get built in a season or even the year... I saw that stone walls were coming up so I started setting up multiple stone storage areas and made 2 huge stone collection zones about 5 years before I needed the stone. I had almost 200 when I did need it.

[Kitten Food]

Originally posted by Reuvil:

This is NOT an issue. Just because you can't make them do X this second does not mean the game is broken or bugged. The AI will do whatever task they think is most important. This depends on their work load, food levels, thirst, mood, etc.

Set the the thing to get built or done and then go mess with something else. It WILL get done when your villagers have time to do it based upon their needs.

Planning ahead will avoid most headaches. Don't create too many manual tasks as well.

Don't build 15 sledges and think they'll get built in a season or even the year... I saw that stone walls were coming up so I started setting up multiple stone storage areas and made 2 huge stone collection zones about 5 years before I needed the stone. I had almost 200 when I did need it.

False. It is a known bug. Again, it only happens based on how a game is started. "You" may not have had it, but many have. It isn't something you just randomly get and lose in a save. It starts from the beginning and you don't notice it until the tech appears. Do not post on threads if you are going to lie.

[SPC.Reuvil]

Care to quote the Dev on this?

There are a lot of "issues" that people are just unaware of how to fix. There is NOTHING in the bug report posted from yesterday from the Devs. So, maybe its just you.

Otherwise you're just the one spreading lies due to ignorance of how mechanics work.

[Reaverbait]

The AI takes a little figuring out, and if you spam tasks until you have dozens in the queue (at least early when your pop is low, later you can have a lot more) then it makes it hard for you to figure out what people will do... or won't.

I know there's lots to do, but you have to try to limit the number of pending task assignments and do some prioritizing yourself, and by that I don't just mean using the prioritization button in game. I mean have a plan and patience.

Here's a few other things I know (or believe, I might get some wrong) that might help...

If you don't have the resources a task doesn't get assigned until the resources are gathered, until then it goes in the pending tasks queue.

If there's higher priority tasks, it goes in the queue.

If everyone is busy it goes in the queue.

If there's no one available with the right tools it goes in the queue.

Once you have crop fields prioritize them and make sure you have enough sickles for 50% or better 75% of your pop.

Consider dropping priority on building construction a bit before harvest time to allow tasks in progress to finish.

Don't send half the tribe off on a mammoth hunt just before harvest and expect all the crops to be harvested.

Some tasks can be prioritized, some can't. If you can't assign high priority to a task and have a lot pending then you are at the mercy of the AI.

And last of all - you are smarter than the AI, you can figure it out better than it can figure you out. :D

[Aieonae]

no issue here, figure a way to trick the lazy AI, basically just cluster everything so close the could not be able to demoralized by travelling 2 steps down the muddy street.

A sample of the small cluster
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1674225428
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1674225471

and a sample of the big clusters
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1674225678

the watermill are basically a waste, nobody work on them...

[SPC.Reuvil]

I have no mortors at all, just the water mills, they work great.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1673734544

[Aieonae]

Originally posted by Reuvil:

I have no mortors at all, just the water mills, they work great.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1673734544

Yes they are very fast. I had a few game that uses them, but none as interesting as the current "test subject".

Those peon actually prefer a closer mortar over a mill.

Well it does explain why I do not go to a power station to get power from a power point.

[onebit]

The AI does work, but you have to be careful not to give it too much work at once.

But this isn't what people want. In oxygen not included you can plan many moves ahead and use priority and jobs to have the dupes complete the work in order. In this game you have to tell them the only the next thing to do. Otherwise they will grind their wheels randomly doing unimportant things.

[Sue D. Nim]

Originally posted by rotiking(warg):

The AI does work, but you have to be careful not to give it too much work at once.

But this isn't what people want. In oxygen not included you can plan many moves ahead and use priority and jobs to have the dupes complete the work in order. In this game you have to tell them the only the next thing to do. Otherwise they will grind their wheels randomly doing unimportant things.

True, but let's try this viewpoint: people want certain mechanics in games because that's what they're used to. All you get from that is people wanting every new game to be like every old game that they liked.

Enough nostalgia. I'm enjoying the challenge of realizing that I have to play this game very differently that I expected. It's frustrating to figure out how the AI works, but it's rewarding when you do start figuring things out.

This game could be just like Banished but better. Or it could be it's own thing. I like that it's its own thing.

[onebit]

I dunno, last night I died because my dudes wouldn't build an oven.