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Villagers won't make bread.
I had 80-90 people, but 40-50 died of starvation within a minute. I have nearly 500 units of grain, 2 water mills, and 2 bakeries. The water mills and the ovens are the only tasks I have set to priority, but no one will use them. :steamfacepalm:
Last edited by RedJackOfClubs; Mar 4, 2019 @ 12:11pm
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Oakshield Mar 4, 2019 @ 12:21pm 
Have you set both to auto produce flour and bread?

If you haven't, you have to click at the icon to fill up the que for your citizens to produce items.
May be worth it to set things to auto produce in a save before the starvation.

Thorin :)
SPC.Reuvil Mar 4, 2019 @ 12:26pm 
Bread is just another food type for your villagers. You could have zero Bread and everyone should be healthy and fed if you are doing everything else. You should be hunting, fishing, farming both grains and fruits, milking animals, butchering domesticated animals.

Bread is not necessary or required to feed your village. If you haven't modified your inventory settings everything will work without any intervention.

Something besides bread is killing your villagers.
RedJackOfClubs Mar 4, 2019 @ 12:29pm 
Originally posted by Oakshield:
Have you set both to auto produce flour and bread?

If you haven't, you have to click at the icon to fill up the que for your citizens to produce items.
May be worth it to set things to auto produce in a save before the starvation.

Thorin :)

Thanks, I wish that was it, but I've done both: they are set to auto-produce and I filled up the queue.
RedJackOfClubs Mar 4, 2019 @ 12:33pm 
Originally posted by Reuvil:
Bread is just another food type for your villagers. You could have zero Bread and everyone should be healthy and fed if you are doing everything else. You should be hunting, fishing, farming both grains and fruits, milking animals, butchering domesticated animals.

Bread is not necessary or required to feed your village. If you haven't modified your inventory settings everything will work without any intervention.

Something besides bread is killing your villagers.

They are dying of starvation, that much is clear, and I haven't seen anything that suggests a diversified diet is necessary. Even if it is, they aren't making it in the first place. I was bringing in more than enough via fishing, livestock, and farming/gathering, but I cut back to save on workload with the assumption that the game would only care if there was food in general, not needing a variety. So, is a varied diet actually necessary in-game?
Cheran Mar 4, 2019 @ 12:36pm 
Originally posted by RedJackOfClubs:
(snip) So, is a varied diet actually necessary in-game?

No. I guess it was intented as the devs' other game had malnutrition.
BellatorMonk Mar 4, 2019 @ 1:08pm 
Are you missing a resource to power the ovens/water mills? I have not reached that stage yet, however sometimes without work areas defined (either enough them with single workers or few with extra workers) raw mats like wood/charcoal lag behind unless I manually point to things to collect.
RedJackOfClubs Mar 4, 2019 @ 1:12pm 
Originally posted by BellatorMonk:
Are you missing a resource to power the ovens/water mills? I have not reached that stage yet, however sometimes without work areas defined (either enough them with single workers or few with extra workers) raw mats like wood/charcoal lag behind unless I manually point to things to collect.
I don't believe so, but I'll double check on that. The watermills are hydro powered, so they should work with just grain, and I believe the ovens only take fuel and I have wood.
Draken Mar 4, 2019 @ 1:13pm 
Ok, first press 7.
That will show you all the things that your villagers have to do.
If you got too much there, your people will work themselfes to death.
They literaly have so much to do, that they have no time to eat.
They will only eat in an emergency and if they are away from the village, it could already be too late.

The same happens with baking bread.
If you have to much other task, only a few people will have the time to make bread.

If you want to know what your people are busy with press 6.
Ludicrum Exosus Mar 4, 2019 @ 1:54pm 
Maybe i had the same issue. What happend to me:
I planed my town in the way that i had enough Flour for enough Bread for the whole winter. Reached winter with no food except this flour. I had 60 people and planed a Stonecircle. My people started to haul the menhir to Town. They got exhausted and lost moral. When these stats reched critical they abandoned the menhir and run back to town to sleep or pray or something like that. Sometimes they got hungry. But there were nothing to eat so they run to the menhir to haul it again. When spring was coming, half the town was starved to death.
Why? I guess hauling a Menhir ist prioritized above everything else. So no one made a bread.
Bomoo Mar 4, 2019 @ 1:57pm 
Originally posted by RedJackOfClubs:
I had 80-90 people, but 40-50 died of starvation within a minute. I have nearly 500 units of grain, 2 water mills, and 2 bakeries. The water mills and the ovens are the only tasks I have set to priority, but no one will use them. :steamfacepalm:

Planetbase nostalgia.
Draken Mar 4, 2019 @ 1:58pm 
@Ludicrum Exosus
Yepp, that exactly how you can starve your village while theoretically having enough to eat.
Hint: Haul the menhires one after another. That way only four people at a time will be busy with it.
Last edited by Draken; Mar 4, 2019 @ 1:59pm
RedJackOfClubs Mar 4, 2019 @ 3:09pm 
Originally posted by Draken:
Ok, first press 7.
That will show you all the things that your villagers have to do.
If you got too much there, your people will work themselfes to death.
They literaly have so much to do, that they have no time to eat.
They will only eat in an emergency and if they are away from the village, it could already be too late.

The same happens with baking bread.
If you have to much other task, only a few people will have the time to make bread.

If you want to know what your people are busy with press 6.

This is probably it, but I have only the water mills and ovens on priority... does priority only work for resource allocation and not task assignment?
jhughes Mar 4, 2019 @ 3:18pm 
It works.. And it puts it as the NEXT thing to do.. It does not stop things currently being done.

So things assigned and being done right now in the top box of the tasks (7 key) will continue to be done.

The things on priority will go to the front of the line in the bottom window, but only move up when they can.
RedJackOfClubs Mar 5, 2019 @ 7:49am 
Originally posted by Draken:
Ok, first press 7.
That will show you all the things that your villagers have to do.
If you got too much there, your people will work themselfes to death.
They literaly have so much to do, that they have no time to eat.
They will only eat in an emergency and if they are away from the village, it could already be too late.

The same happens with baking bread.
If you have to much other task, only a few people will have the time to make bread.

If you want to know what your people are busy with press 6.

Okay, I checked and I don't think this is it. Even in the middle of planting/harvest, I have about 85% Workload with a handful of people being unproductive. I've gone through 2 winters like this and it won't have any of the stages of making bread as ongoing or even pending tasks (they're still the only ones on priority as well).

Do I need to place storage for grain and flour nearer to the mills and ovens respectively? They are already close, but would making them adjacent to the buildings make it better?

I didn't have this problem when I just used mortars and the hearths, all I did was replace them with the more efficient versions.
SimpleSiren Mar 6, 2019 @ 9:43am 
I am now getting this a lot 4 Hearths 4 Grinders 90% workload, 200 Flour, 200 wood. They will not make bread anymore. I think this was a bug in banished as well
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