Server Population Shrinking

[LudicrousFox]

Whats going on with the game, there's hardly anyone online anymore

[maelfyn]

Naturally, there's always a spike after a launch. The population has normalized. Other games that launched around the same time (POSTAL Brain Damaged) did the same thing. It's still early access and it's not even localized yet. I'm working on it. Trust me—I'd like to see what this architecture can support. I want to see big numbers. I'm doing everything in my power to make that happen.

[YNutPNut]

Originally posted by maelfyn:

Naturally, there's always a spike after a launch. The population has normalized. Other games that launched around the same time (POSTAL Brain Damaged) did the same thing. It's still early access and it's not even localized yet. I'm working on it. Trust me—I'd like to see what this architecture can support. I want to see big numbers. I'm doing everything in my power to make that happen.

Not gonna argue on what you just said, but at some point, you will have to realize the price for the game was too high. It ruined the player base at the begining. Add to that having to wait several minutes to find a steady party in the lvl 30's + is truly a pain. All of this and also the lack of content. Ok you got to lvl 50, what next?

[=|:3]

Prob a handful like me that mainly play offline now. I can't realistically group because I have to get up from my desk often.

[Ardele]

From my perspective, there is only so much I can take when it comes to waiting for a group for heroics and getting loot that is just vendor trash. My biggest issue is farming for gear to improve my SK but only getting whites and blues. Very little Purple or green drops for 10 hours of play. This is why I left discord, uninstalled the game, and will not be coming back.

[h3xC@]

I think like in many mmo type games, folks raced to 50, then stopped, waiting for more content. That's why I bought the game for a buddy too, so I'd have a partner to level with, if nothing else.

[Crunchy]

Originally posted by =|:3:

Prob a handful like me that mainly play offline now. I can't realistically group because I have to get up from my desk often.

no need to play offline just run solo till you have time or find a group, if you run offline you are stuck with that character offline.

[Crunchy]

Alts and slow down, the desire for instant gratification is what kills the population. All these people that race to the end to feel a sense of accomplishment, for them its like a drug. It literally has the same effect as drugs causing the release of chemicals that make you feel good. Then it all stops because what is there left to do now but grind, no more gratification so the go someplace else for their fix until more content comes out then they return do the same thing again get their dose and leave again. It happens in every single mmo or online game in existence, some it hurts more than others but it always happens. And most of the time they start dropping bad reviews or complaining about how shallow the game is or how its a huge disappointment or some other such thing but completely ignoring the fact that they do this in every game they play. Take it with a grain of salt, it will normalize, content will come out and people will come back and play again and some might stay this time but as always the instants will leave until more content.

[Ardele]

How about the people that took 80+ hours to hit 50 then to find out there is are no active groups at all? I just want to farm for set/unique gear but as a Tank....well I kinda need help :P

[Eyedea]

Originally posted by Ardele:

How about the people that took 80+ hours to hit 50 then to find out there is are no active groups at all? I just want to farm for set/unique gear but as a Tank....well I kinda need help :P

Take your 80 enjoyed hours and move to a new game. The current game has no depth, stemming from boring itemization and minimal combat decisions. Why are you shocked that few of us would stick around for this. Give it a year or two to receive updates/polish, and then return if the population does too.

Being a passion project, I doubt the game gets abandoned. You're just going to have to wait long periods (patience) for substantial updates.

[Crunchy]

Originally posted by Ardele:

How about the people that took 80+ hours to hit 50 then to find out there is are no active groups at all? I just want to farm for set/unique gear but as a Tank....well I kinda need help :P

Thats why alts, I have yet to have trouble finding groups. Sometimes it takes a bit or you have to grab some one to run normals with but thats all games. If you do /who you will see there are usually 50 to 70 people on and most of them are in a group running a dungeon. So not sure what to tell you but if you log into your level 50 and no one is grouping at the moment, switch to an alt you will find a group. You will see 2 50s in town but 12 lvl 21 to 33. There is your group if you start one. another thing i have seen a lot, is there are plenty of people on to make a group but no one wants to be the leader so no invites go out. Change your tactics and be the one to invite people. Or if ultimately you just arent having fun, play another game. Other than that dont know what to tell ya, I am having fun and I have no issues waiting 15 minutes to put together a group. This I think goes back to instant gratification, no one will wait anymore. Back when us dinosaurs started EQ you would sit at a zone line waiting 3 hours for a spot to open up in a group you asked to be put on the waiting list after your camp check. Maybe this game is more for patient people not todays mmo players.

[Googledebunker]

I have been logging in during the morning, afternoon, and evening in the US, and it seems like there are large batches of people sporadically through the day, the most density seems to be around 7 or 8pm PST.

It's a niche game, and it's early access. I am surprised it has as many people playing as it does. I love the game so far, and I think the $20 price point is pretty reasonable considering there isn't a cash shop or a subscription fee. That's my opinion on things at least.

[preshrunk_cyberpunk]

Originally posted by h3xC@:

I think like in many mmo type games, folks raced to 50, then stopped, waiting for more content. That's why I bought the game for a buddy too, so I'd have a partner to level with, if nothing else.

Yeah people do that A LOT....and then complain about having nothing to do. I want to be clear NOT EVERYONE does that, but i see it a lot.

[Aggroteck]

I'm just waiting for more content/level cap increase which is coming eventually.

My personal "problem" is that I like min maxing, and I don't mind spending a good amount of hours doing so, but with the current 50 cap and 99 coming I don't want to spend hundreds of hours to get my guys pimped out only for the gear to becomes obsolete once lvl cap increases.

I lvled a Wizard and Rogue to 50 and made a few other low level guys, spent around 50ish hours on the game and although I'm not bored it's the lvl cap that's holding me back.

I think once the talents, lvl cap, more tiers of gear etc. are added more people will buy the game and people stay longer as there's plenty to do, especially if the max lvl takes a good while to reach.

[Cat of Darkness]

Originally posted by preshrunk_cyberpunk:

Originally posted by h3xC@:

I think like in many mmo type games, folks raced to 50, then stopped, waiting for more content. That's why I bought the game for a buddy too, so I'd have a partner to level with, if nothing else.

Yeah people do that A LOT....and then complain about having nothing to do. I want to be clear NOT EVERYONE does that, but i see it a lot.

Normally that's a burn out problem where people get tired of the game despite there being plenty to do. In NGO is there even any unique content at 50? It looks like it's just the same exact content but harder, so even people who don't get burnt out by the time they hit cap, have nothing worth sticking around for.

You've also got all the players leaving way before that because they realized that once you unlock all your abilities early on, you've pretty much experienced everything signficiant about the game.

Some truly unique gameplay elements at cap and/or some end game exclusive progression systems that significantly shake up classes would go a lot way to keeping end game players around and justifying new players time investment getting there.

I dont think its very helpful for improving the game to be so quick to dismiss its role in all the players leaving as just players burning themselves out.

[Cat of Darkness]

Originally posted by Aggroteck:

I'm just waiting for more content/level cap increase which is coming eventually.

My personal "problem" is that I like min maxing, and I don't mind spending a good amount of hours doing so, but with the current 50 cap and 99 coming I don't want to spend hundreds of hours to get my guys pimped out only for the gear to becomes obsolete once lvl cap increases.

I lvled a Wizard and Rogue to 50 and made a few other low level guys, spent around 50ish hours on the game and although I'm not bored it's the lvl cap that's holding me back.

I think once the talents, lvl cap, more tiers of gear etc. are added more people will buy the game and people stay longer as there's plenty to do, especially if the max lvl takes a good while to reach.

Honestly thats the biggest problem with vertical progression. You put so much effort into gearing up and then it just gets made irrelevant on a whim. It really discourages putting to much time an effort into the game and really doesn't make much sense in a game like nevergrind that wants you to invest a ton of time in grinding for gear.

"Youre really going to have to work hard for your gear, but by the way all that work and gear will be made irrelevant from time to time" is a real slap in the face. There needs to be a way to enhance hard earned gear so that its viable at new level caps if it wants to make sure most players don't feel jilted by the arbitrary level cap raises.