DRAGON BALL Z: KAKAROT
Last DLC is really disappointing
I get it that people love the future Trunks story line, but this was underwhelming af and it's really off that this is the way they decided to wrap up the game. I know the battles aren't completely recycled considering the bosses got new moves, but let's all be honest here, they feel cheap and uninspiring to say the least. it feels like they couldn't bother with adding actual new content to the game, so they said "wouldn't it be cool if we will throw at Trunks a gauntlet of boss battles that the player already faced against in the main game?" (Other than the Supreme Kai and Dabura fight that iirc were completely new).

The Androids which were supposed to be the big baddies of this DLC aren't menacing after facing the bosses of DLC 1 and 2 with the full power of Super Sayian god and SSGSS, and fighting them both felt more like a chore rather than a fun fight. There were only 2 battles in which your opponent overlevel you, and therefore those were the only battles in the entire DLC that had some spice to them, but even there fighting the overleveled Androids was ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ annoying. It was reduced to one of them taking a beating by you while the other is spamming super attacks, which means you had to break the flow of battle just to annoyingly avoid the tracking super attacks.

The world in the DLC is extremely lacking. They basically opened up the entire food and R&D thing for you, but it is really pointless. The new drones mechanic is just something you could blink and miss entirely in the DLC, and the substories are almost non existing.

I know I come off as kind of a hater of the game, but I was supporting it from day 1 and was really excited for this DLC (even though as I said I didn't get the appeal in the future Trunks story myself).
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We are at least lucky that the extra content (Majin Buu) was added to the DLC. They could have just said "♥♥♥♥ it" and just finished the DLC at the Androids' defeat. And still, the gap between the enemies and the player wasn't that big. I still felt the enemies dealt quite the damage and I couldn't go all monkey spam on them. As I said, to each their own.

They also only cover the Z part of Dragon Ball. They chose the best story to finish the game on imo. They could have used plot from some of the old movies, but fights would have been copy-paste of actual canon story or be like the first two DLCs.

No offense, but I feel you set your expectations really high, like waiting to fight a wild lvl 300 Goku Black and Zamasu out of nowhere while you are below lvl 100. Fighting an overly powerful boss isn't fun imo. You waste over an hour to lower one of their health bar and you get 1 shotted for being unlucky with a dodge.

I didn't expect to fight Zamasu considering the promotional material to the DLC was strictly about the Androids. I did however expected them to give me a reason to want to lvl up my Trunks considering they made us restart our progression with him. Sure you could say we are lucky to have the Majin Boo arc content, but I would say that it would be really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ if we didn't and would make the DLC no more than just another "boss battle episode" but against the Androids.

If you really wanna know what I expected when they said it will be an "original" story arc, I expected it to be some timeline merging crisis Xenoverse style. I believed it would be the case because of Mira and Towa being in the game. I thought they might pull in some movie villains from other timelines in order to conquer the cannon timeline, and that will be the premise of the arc. I don't think expecting the developers making a bunch of new models and animations for new enemies to fight is "setting my expectations high", I do however think that reusing character models and animations with a few tweaks from the main game is setting the bar low to what was considered a "big DLC"


I most likely expected new villainously power enemies, remember Mira? Well I expected them to come back but with more enemies, more powerful, a demon realm, all of that, but I'm seriously satisfied with what I got in this DLC, definitely better than the last ones.
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Цитата допису The Dexis:

"troll post"... Why? Because I didn't like it as much as you did? I gave a list of reasons of why I disliked it and if you don't like them it's not my problem.

"you only care for combat in game and not the story"... dude, this is DBZ. They didn't reinvent anything story wise. Non of it was nothing we have never seen before. Sure, they head few pretty cutscenes thrown in there, but ofcourse when I play a videogame I care for the gameplay first. By the midpoint of the DLC you are already overleveled and no battle from the point Trunks travel back in time is challenging.

You are entitled to like the DLC, I find it lacking especially since it is trying to be the last triumphant for this game.
I quite disagree, I think they finally gave more protagonism to both Gohan and Trunks, they also gave more importance to Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2, and the story arc was way better than most people expected. But what can I say, it's your opinion, respectable.
How did they do any of that? I must be playing a different game, with different everything.
Imagine the Original Story was Original, and not something already done, and just copy pasted.
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Цитата допису SpenserAtlas:
I quite disagree, I think they finally gave more protagonism to both Gohan and Trunks, they also gave more importance to Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2, and the story arc was way better than most people expected. But what can I say, it's your opinion, respectable.
How did they do any of that? I must be playing a different game, with different everything.

The time you fight as Gohan vs Android 17/18 but Gohan is literally out of energy and SIMPLY can't fight + add a scene where Gohan is able to finally do a kamehameha vs the androids ki blasts, that ♥♥♥♥ was sad and reminds all of us how Gohan died, besides that his wish to protect the earth through out the episodes was as intense as in the series.

Then Trunks tries to search for him, but not even ki-reading helps us find Gohan, by the fact that he's dead. I mean come on, you sarcastically telling me you're playing a different game after telling you that is quite dumb.

And again, I respect your opinion, but what you just said simply didn't make sense to me, not because I'm a dragon ball fanboy, but because it has no specifications nor at least a bit of positivity.
i mean its just not really *New*
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I just have a feeling Super is kind of lacking in content to support a full game on it's own. Maybe a fighting game, but not a story driven one. Most of the stories in super so far revolve around a tournament which isn't really an RPG material (unless you count the arcs that haven't been translated to anime yet and the ones that were already used in DLC 1 and 2). So for me it feels more like a DLC content rather than a new game content. But what do I know? XD
There's a lot of sagas though.

Beerus Saga.
Freeza Resurrection saga.
Poutafou mini-saga saga.
Universe 6 tournament saga. (DLC)
Goku Black saga. (DLC)
Tournament of power saga. (DLC)

That's how I imagine it.
The two DLCs in kakarot were the movies, except that beerus was done in the wrong place with the wrong choreography, literally where dafuq did we see SSJG Vegeta? Maybe in the manga.


They literally did the beerus and freeza stuff in DLC. How do you expect THAT to be a full length game?

Take away the DLC parts of your list and you'd have a full game without DLC.
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There's a lot of sagas though.

Beerus Saga.
Freeza Resurrection saga.
Poutafou mini-saga saga.
Universe 6 tournament saga. (DLC)
Goku Black saga. (DLC)
Tournament of power saga. (DLC)

That's how I imagine it.
The two DLCs in kakarot were the movies, except that beerus was done in the wrong place with the wrong choreography, literally where dafuq did we see SSJG Vegeta? Maybe in the manga.


They literally did the beerus and freeza stuff in DLC. How do you expect THAT to be a full length game?

Take away the DLC parts of your list and you'd have a full game without DLC.

Because the beerus and freeza stuff were the movies. And well, while the last quote you say COULD be done, I would expect nothing else from a company who always repeat the game's story over and over, we always are like "Man I can't wait to see krillin explode again!" and then when we play the game we just go like "BRUH THE MECHANICS OF THIS GAME SUCK TENKAICHI WAS BETTER DBZ SUCKZZZZ", you know, the usual.
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Цитата допису SpenserAtlas:
There's a lot of sagas though.

Beerus Saga.
Freeza Resurrection saga.
Poutafou mini-saga saga.
Universe 6 tournament saga. (DLC)
Goku Black saga. (DLC)
Tournament of power saga. (DLC)

That's how I imagine it.
The two DLCs in kakarot were the movies, except that beerus was done in the wrong place with the wrong choreography, literally where dafuq did we see SSJG Vegeta? Maybe in the manga.


They literally did the beerus and freeza stuff in DLC. How do you expect THAT to be a full length game?

Take away the DLC parts of your list and you'd have a full game without DLC.
I also forgot to mention they made the Broly movie but that's pretty much it.
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We are at least lucky that the extra content (Majin Buu) was added to the DLC. They could have just said "♥♥♥♥ it" and just finished the DLC at the Androids' defeat. And still, the gap between the enemies and the player wasn't that big. I still felt the enemies dealt quite the damage and I couldn't go all monkey spam on them. As I said, to each their own.

They also only cover the Z part of Dragon Ball. They chose the best story to finish the game on imo. They could have used plot from some of the old movies, but fights would have been copy-paste of actual canon story or be like the first two DLCs.

No offense, but I feel you set your expectations really high, like waiting to fight a wild lvl 300 Goku Black and Zamasu out of nowhere while you are below lvl 100. Fighting an overly powerful boss isn't fun imo. You waste over an hour to lower one of their health bar and you get 1 shotted for being unlucky with a dodge.

I didn't expect to fight Zamasu considering the promotional material to the DLC was strictly about the Androids. I did however expected them to give me a reason to want to lvl up my Trunks considering they made us restart our progression with him. Sure you could say we are lucky to have the Majin Boo arc content, but I would say that it would be really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ if we didn't and would make the DLC no more than just another "boss battle episode" but against the Androids.

If you really wanna know what I expected when they said it will be an "original" story arc, I expected it to be some timeline merging crisis Xenoverse style. I believed it would be the case because of Mira and Towa being in the game. I thought they might pull in some movie villains from other timelines in order to conquer the cannon timeline, and that will be the premise of the arc. I don't think expecting the developers making a bunch of new models and animations for new enemies to fight is "setting my expectations high", I do however think that reusing character models and animations with a few tweaks from the main game is setting the bar low to what was considered a "big DLC"
To me it sounds like you wanted Super Dragon Ball Heroes into the game.

By "original" they meant ripped straight out of the anime or manga type of thing, not their own version of the story. The first two DLCs were their own re-telling of what happened in BoG and RoF.

Mira and Towa had a very minor role/appearance in Kakarot. They were more like a tribute to the Xenoverse games and were not intended to affect the Kakarot timeline, if I can call it that. It also might have been included to tease the people that keep whining about Xenoverse 3.

Xenoverse already did the mixture of timelines and fighting past or future enemies, don't remember how well that was received from DB fans.

This DLC compared to Beerus and Frieza is a big DLC.
Beerus and Frieza DLC: can be completed relatively fast, 1-2 hrs of playtime, maybe less, depending on the player.
Trunks: Warrior of Hope: can be completed in 3-7 hrs, maybe more, depending on the player.
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How did they do any of that? I must be playing a different game, with different everything.

The time you fight as Gohan vs Android 17/18 but Gohan is literally out of energy and SIMPLY can't fight + add a scene where Gohan is able to finally do a kamehameha vs the androids ki blasts, that ♥♥♥♥ was sad and reminds all of us how Gohan died, besides that his wish to protect the earth through out the episodes was as intense as in the series.

Then Trunks tries to search for him, but not even ki-reading helps us find Gohan, by the fact that he's dead. I mean come on, you sarcastically telling me you're playing a different game after telling you that is quite dumb.

And again, I respect your opinion, but what you just said simply didn't make sense to me, not because I'm a dragon ball fanboy, but because it has no specifications nor at least a bit of positivity.
But you said they gave more of the characters, all you just said now is they copied the special. So they did nothing, you told me nothing, you made 0 sense, and what you said both times is extremely dumb.
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I didn't expect to fight Zamasu considering the promotional material to the DLC was strictly about the Androids. I did however expected them to give me a reason to want to lvl up my Trunks considering they made us restart our progression with him. Sure you could say we are lucky to have the Majin Boo arc content, but I would say that it would be really ♥♥♥♥♥♥ if we didn't and would make the DLC no more than just another "boss battle episode" but against the Androids.

If you really wanna know what I expected when they said it will be an "original" story arc, I expected it to be some timeline merging crisis Xenoverse style. I believed it would be the case because of Mira and Towa being in the game. I thought they might pull in some movie villains from other timelines in order to conquer the cannon timeline, and that will be the premise of the arc. I don't think expecting the developers making a bunch of new models and animations for new enemies to fight is "setting my expectations high", I do however think that reusing character models and animations with a few tweaks from the main game is setting the bar low to what was considered a "big DLC"
To me it sounds like you wanted Super Dragon Ball Heroes into the game.

By "original" they meant ripped straight out of the anime or manga type of thing, not their own version of the story. The first two DLCs were their own re-telling of what happened in BoG and RoF.

Mira and Towa had a very minor role/appearance in Kakarot. They were more like a tribute to the Xenoverse games and were not intended to affect the Kakarot timeline, if I can call it that. It also might have been included to tease the people that keep whining about Xenoverse 3.

Xenoverse already did the mixture of timelines and fighting past or future enemies, don't remember how well that was received from DB fans.

This DLC compared to Beerus and Frieza is a big DLC.
Beerus and Frieza DLC: can be completed relatively fast, 1-2 hrs of playtime, maybe less, depending on the player.
Trunks: Warrior of Hope: can be completed in 3-7 hrs, maybe more, depending on the player.
So the BoG and RoF were original arcs like promised, while the supposed to be new arc wasn't new. So they lied. I'm a die hard DB fan, and even support their worst ♥♥♥♥, but like anyone who takes in things and doesnt follow the logic of "i love (blank), it's perfect, everything (blank) does/has is perfect", can admit, this was a let down, and they failed us. I do hope for a well developed sequel, the improves on the decent parts of this game, getting rid of the less then parts, and goes further in offering more in the many areas this game lacks. It sucks but it's true.
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Цитата допису Lone Strider:
But you said they gave more of the characters, all you just said now is they copied the special. So they did nothing, you told me nothing, you made 0 sense, and what you said both times is extremely dumb.

Wow, so you are retarded.

I literally explained WHY they gave more importance, do you know how to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ read? I tried ot keep this respectable but I can't when someone can't even ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ READ this line:
"The time you fight as Gohan vs Android 17/18 but Gohan is literally out of energy and SIMPLY can't fight + add a scene where Gohan is able to finally do a kamehameha vs the androids ki blasts, that ♥♥♥♥ was sad and reminds all of us how Gohan died, besides that his wish to protect the earth through out the episodes was as intense as in the series.

Then Trunks tries to search for him, but not even ki-reading helps us find Gohan, by the fact that he's dead. I mean come on, you sarcastically telling me you're playing a different game after telling you that is quite dumb."

Is this what you meant by "they copied the special"? Literally that's every single DB Game we play, everytime they replay the story, and what's dumber is that you keep paying for the same thing you hate on. Dumbest man award: to you buddy. Now if you got anything else to say, go ahead, because you're literally in denial at this point, you didn't even reason why this DLC is disappointing either so you're just here to annoy, ♥♥♥♥ off.
1. If either of use is retarded, it would be you. 2. You explained nothing. 3. You seem to not be able to read. 4. Your example given just goes to prove points 1-3. 5. They said NEW story. 6. Not every DB game is a copy of the show. 7. Other games have taken this stuff, and provided a more expanded, story. 8. I never said I hate the DB series, I have however gone on record as a long time loyal fan. 9. You can keep your award, since You actually deserve it. 10. You seem to be the one in denial. 11. If you could read, I have stated why it's disappointing, to a degree, although overall i'm fine with it, unlike you. 12. You should take your advice, and stop annoying people, and ♥♥♥♥ off. 13. Quit wasting the limited resources we have, you aren't worth them.
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To me it sounds like you wanted Super Dragon Ball Heroes into the game.

By "original" they meant ripped straight out of the anime or manga type of thing, not their own version of the story. The first two DLCs were their own re-telling of what happened in BoG and RoF.

Mira and Towa had a very minor role/appearance in Kakarot. They were more like a tribute to the Xenoverse games and were not intended to affect the Kakarot timeline, if I can call it that. It also might have been included to tease the people that keep whining about Xenoverse 3.

Xenoverse already did the mixture of timelines and fighting past or future enemies, don't remember how well that was received from DB fans.

This DLC compared to Beerus and Frieza is a big DLC.
Beerus and Frieza DLC: can be completed relatively fast, 1-2 hrs of playtime, maybe less, depending on the player.
Trunks: Warrior of Hope: can be completed in 3-7 hrs, maybe more, depending on the player.
So the BoG and RoF were original arcs like promised, while the supposed to be new arc wasn't new. So they lied. I'm a die hard DB fan, and even support their worst ♥♥♥♥, but like anyone who takes in things and doesnt follow the logic of "i love (blank), it's perfect, everything (blank) does/has is perfect", can admit, this was a let down, and they failed us. I do hope for a well developed sequel, the improves on the decent parts of this game, getting rid of the less then parts, and goes further in offering more in the many areas this game lacks. It sucks but it's true.
I don't think they let us down with this DLC. Many have different understanding of what "new" actually means. As I understand it, "new" would mean a new arc that was never seen before in the game, or playable. In terms of content and gameplay-wise to some degree, its new. In terms of story-telling, its not, because it was created many years ago.

DLC 1 felt disappointing, because it was expected to be just like the BoG movie where Goku fights Beerus in his Super Saiyan forms and gets his ass kicked, Beerus and Whis going to Earth, Z-Fighters and Vegeta fight Beerus, Goku comes to Earth and turns into a SSG then again fights Beerus. But all it turned out was, you fight Whis like 4 times and you attain SSG like that, then its just leveling up using the new item and then fight Beerus.

DLC 2 was a bit improved, but was essentially the same ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.
I honestly didn’t like any of the DLC.
The first one although having the least content was also the most bareable.

However the third part of the Trunks DLC, the Buu saga one i did enjoy.

Not because it was better gameplay than anything else but because we finally got to see what properly happened in that story in what I consider pretty much canon.
They took those few seconds of story that Super gave for this arc and built something actually believable.

Other than that the DLC was crap as the rest.

Автор останньої редакції: DaniTheHero; 12 черв. 2021 о 22:45
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1. If either of use is retarded, it would be you. 2. You explained nothing. 3. You seem to not be able to read. 4. Your example given just goes to prove points 1-3. 5. They said NEW story. 6. Not every DB game is a copy of the show. 7. Other games have taken this stuff, and provided a more expanded, story. 8. I never said I hate the DB series, I have however gone on record as a long time loyal fan. 9. You can keep your award, since You actually deserve it. 10. You seem to be the one in denial. 11. If you could read, I have stated why it's disappointing, to a degree, although overall i'm fine with it, unlike you. 12. You should take your advice, and stop annoying people, and ♥♥♥♥ off. 13. Quit wasting the limited resources we have, you aren't worth them.


You're seriously retarded, when they said "new story arc" they did absolutely NOT mean a new random story arc where you get to defeat some random new opponent like Moro, first we got the present story arc (perfect cell, kid buu) and future story arc (the new story arc (evil androids, non-perfect cell and no majin buu), but hey if you, buddy, can't read, not our problem. I don't care if you're a loyal fan if you really can't understand the simplest instructions, worrying more about what you expected than what you've gotten.

Most of the DB Games HAVE been copies of the show, DBZ: Kakarot is one of them, you should've expected it, you can keep the dumbest man alive award.

I explained everything you asked for, again, you can't read. And the "wasted limited resources we have" is something you paid for, and then you regretted it, and didn't even enjoy it in the slighest, which is basically the dumbest move ever, what can be expected from someone who has the dumbest man alive award.

I stick to my point, I explained to you why they gave more importance to the characters and transformations, you ignored it completely and said it made 0 sense.

I explained why the new story arc is not a "random story arc" (like seriously what kind of person expects a game which is literally about the dragon ball franchise to get some random-ass DLC) literally the closest thing you can get is the pre-order DLC that involves the new character from the Ginyu force called Bonyu, but our friend here isn't satisfied with the future timeline story arc, which was clearly talked about before.

I'm gonna stop this long-ass paragraph here and I'm gonna stay convinced that you're dumb and a hypocrite that can't read, end of the discussion.
lol, guys look at the living joke go, and continue to get more wrong. Why do you keep defeating yourself, and denying it, and denying the truth, and facts. Grow up.
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