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While there is technically canon, the franchise as a whole has played fast and loose with what does and doesn't count as time has gone on. Originally, the entirety of Dragon Ball Z was meant to end with the Frieza saga.
If you want a 'complete picture' of what that series would have looked like, you can watch;
- (optional) Dragon Ball (or skip it if you're not interested in the exploits of child Goku- it's a more strictly martial arts anime than the scifi DBZ was)
- (optional) Bardock: Father of Goku before starting DBZ as a prologue/foreshadowing, although it will have some spoilers of the series after that.
- Dragon Ball Z or DBZ Kai (which cuts out a lot of sub arcs, touches up the animation and audio, and uses a dub closer to the Japanese dialogue)
- Cooler's Revenge, then its sequel Return of Cooler if you care enough, although it's not as interesting imo and really more of a side story.
The sagas that came after the Frieza saga are considered canon, but I personally don't care for them much.
As others have mentioned, GT isn't considered canon NOW, but it's fair to point out that for a long time it was THE Dragon Ball sequel to Z, long before Super was even a thought on paper. It being the 'official' sequel to Z to make room for super. Really if/ when/ how it fits is up to you.
If you want to watch DB Super, prepare for disappointment. I know its got its fans, but the quality in writing, animation, and authenticity really went right out the window with the series overall. The first two arcs are drawn out versions of the two movies, Battle of the Gods and Resurrection F. Pros and cons: the movies have much better animation and tell the story at a more appropriate pace, but also lose what little soul they managed to infuse the anime episodes with.
I personally only really liked the Goku Black arc, the rest of the series seemed really contrived and lazy. If you like watching the Z fighters fighting stuff you might enjoy it, but prepare for a lot of flanderization and a total lack of power-ceiling ("zomg I've reached my limit, BUT WAIT if I -believe- hard enough I can SURPASS my limit1!" every single time Goku fights someone stronger than him, which is a lot).
That having been said and despite dumping on the series, Dragon Ball Super Broly is probably the single best Dragon Ball film ever made. It'll touch on some things brought up in Dragon Ball Z and rework some things from the original Broly film. The movie is pretty well self-contained and you really don't need to see Z or the Super series or other two movies to enjoy it (assuming you have basic knowledge of the relationship between the Saiyans and Frieza and the current tiers of Super Saiyan/ Frieza's forms).
That being said, I only commented about Super's manga being overall better and still going, that reading any manga would be faster than watching the thousand episodes of the anime (DB+DBZ), and that their drawing quality is overall higher. Which is a fact, even before Super, and especially noticeable by the end of Z due to it's higher level of detail; it was because of the different main artists that Toei used. You can't deny that. Just compare the animation on the "good" episodes of Z with the OVAs and the manga, and they were identical or near identical, while the "bad" ones certainly looked worse (but overall, because they mixed those episodes, it didn't leave a bad taste). At the same time, you can't say that the vast majority of Super's episodes look even close to the last 3 OVAs or the manga, at all. The quality drop is there, and the reasons are known to all, which they somewhat fixed before the ToP and especially by the end of that arc (people demoted, new team of animators, etc., which wouldn't have happened if it had just been "a couple" of bad episodes).
I also *explicitly* said on my first post that what I recommend is to read the manga EVEN if they watch the anime, in Super's case, NOT that they shouldn't watch the latter, so perhaps the issue is not the wording but your reading comprehension. And I mean no offense at all, because maybe english is not your first language.
Anyway, it's on the OP to see if that information is useful or not. I'm not going to keep derailing this thread with our discussion.
yes, you can technically start with z, but you're missing out on things like piccolo sr, his spawn that would later go on to become gokus bestie, the red ribbon army (who gero was part of, albeit offscreen), and of course, giant monkey goku.
seriously. i'm surprised db classic doesn't get the love it deserves. it would be perfect for an open world rpg like dbzk.
remember: saiyans are monkey-people. what super saiyan 4 is is a marriage between oozaru, and super saiyan. most saiyans had their tails cut off during the early parts of z. and those who havent just straight-up die. beyond the ridiculous strength and ability to turn himself blonde, there was nothing physically seperating goku from an average human by the end of z. the tail was all he had.
gt at least remembered "oh ♥♥♥♥. saiyans are monkeys!" so thus, super saiyan 4. i lowkey wish super had done something similar with god ki. just imagine, oozaru with god ki. and then supers own version of super saiyan 4.