Please bring We Love Katamari to Steam

[Tony Rizz Gaming]

I love this game to death, but We Love Katamari dare I say is better in every way. Please remaster this game/bring to Steam and I will gladly pick it up no question.

[Natty La Ridge]

Seconded!

[aenertia]

install PCSX2 ; the PS2 version works flawlessly in the emulator and you can upscale to 4k and play and it looks just as good.

I have not owned a PS2 for over a decade but own a couple of games still and routinely pull this one out.

https://wiki.pcsx2.net/We_Love_Katamari

[Njã¥l]

Emulated games have no soul

[ricky.d.keim]

Id buy it.

[Vali Riversong]

I'd buy it. More Katamari on Steam is fine by me.

[FredEffinChopin]

100%.

[Duckilous]

Originally posted by Njawl:

Emulated games have no soul

It's literally the same game except you can render it in high resolution than your dusty old PS2.

[Njã¥l]

Originally posted by Duckilous:

Originally posted by Njawl:

Emulated games have no soul

It's literally the same game except you can render it in high resolution than your dusty old PS2.

Improvements is a fair point if it the experience is translated well but playing legally is the just way to go and devs and publishers need to eat. Also achivements are nice.

[Melodia]

Because clearly buying a PS2 game second hand is going feed people involved with the game...

[Njã¥l]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Because clearly buying a PS2 game second hand is going feed people involved with the game...

Didn't say that. You do get a charming physical copy nontheless

[Duckilous]

Originally posted by Njawl:

Originally posted by Duckilous:

It's literally the same game except you can render it in high resolution than your dusty old PS2.

Improvements is a fair point if it the experience is translated well but playing legally is the just way to go and devs and publishers need to eat. Also achivements are nice.

Emulation is not illegal. Nintendo and Sony uses them to make their old games playable and sellable. There's even some old games here on Steam like the MS DOS games and Sega's Mega Drive games that runs on an emulator.
There's also nothing illegal about dumping your own physical copy of a game into a playable digital format that can run on an emulator.

Originally posted by Njawl:

Originally posted by Melodia:

Because clearly buying a PS2 game second hand is going feed people involved with the game...

Didn't say that. You do get a charming physical copy nontheless

You said devs and publishers need to eat but buying a second hand copy of a game is not giving them any money.
You're only giving money to a random person who is selling their copy of the game.
Heck, some developers think it's even worse than piracy because you have no incentive to buy their game to support them when you already have it legally.

[Melodia]

Originally posted by Duckilous:

Heck, some developers think it's even worse than piracy because you have no incentive to buy their game to support them when you already have it legally.

Yeah those devs are wrong. There's nothing wrong with used games. It's simply shifting ownership from one person to another. If they have a problem with it then they aren't making games worth keeping in the first place which is on them.

But yeah, I will hard agree that emulation is often simply better. Being able to upscale into higher resolution, save states, unlimited saves, easy patch codes, romhacks, etc. I'd gladly buy We♥Katamari were it released on Steam, but to say that emulated games 'have'no soul' is silly. As long as the emulator is good (and PCSX2 has been spot on for many years now) there's no reason no to use it if you can unless you really want that 'in front of the TV' experiance, or don't have the hardware for it.

[Duckilous]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Originally posted by Duckilous:

Heck, some developers think it's even worse than piracy because you have no incentive to buy their game to support them when you already have it legally.

Yeah those devs are wrong. There's nothing wrong with used games. It's simply shifting ownership from one person to another. If they have a problem with it then they aren't making games worth keeping in the first place which is on them.

I'm not too sure about that. I remember last year when The High Court of Paris ruled that Steam cannot ban resale 'dematerialised' games which if Valve complied or didn't appeal, it would harm the gaming industry more than it would do good as people have no reason to directly buy, especially short, indie games when they can just buy second-hand copies while AAA companies would push for even more aggressive predatory business practices and turning their games into "live services" that hinders the experience.

Of course, that situation was about digital games being resold.
For physical copies however, it's not just shifting ownership because it's not like people are simply giving a copy of the game to their friends for free.
They're making profit off from somebody's works which I find a bit distasteful unless the developer/publisher aren't selling it anymore and/or the platform it runs on has been discontinued.
As a consumer, I wanted my money to go towards someone who actually made the product.
If I don't like it, I'd refund the product and tell other people to NOT buy it.
If it's simply not for me, I'd still refund it because I want my entire money back.
I'm not saying that used games are bad or wrong, it is legal at least but you're truly not supporting the people who made the game and you have no reason to when you already own a legal copy.
At least some pirates who aren't fully scummy can still be incentivised to buy the game just to support the developers if they really enjoy the game.

As long as the emulator is good (and PCSX2 has been spot on for many years now) there's no reason no to use it if you can unless you really want that 'in front of the TV' experiance

Which people still can just by having their PC connected to their television instead of their monitor if they want to play on the couch.

[Melodia]

Originally posted by Duckilous:

For physical copies however, it's not just shifting ownership because it's not like people are simply giving a copy of the game to their friends for free.
They're making profit off from somebody's works which I find a bit distasteful unless the developer/publisher aren't selling it anymore and/or the platform it runs on has been discontinued.
As a consumer, I wanted my money to go towards someone who actually made the product.
If I don't like it, I'd refund the product and tell other people to NOT buy it.
If it's simply not for me, I'd still refund it because I want my entire money back.
I'm not saying that used games are bad or wrong, it is legal at least but you're truly not supporting the people who made the game and you have no reason to when you already own a legal copy.

When you buy a game at a store you're giving money to the store. The publisher already made the full amount they'd make. You're not supporting anyone but the store in that case.
Buying it used from someone else is not actually different, there's just an extra transaction involved in the middle there. The publisher made its money on that copy of the game. With physical copies there's only a limited number of items extant in the first place.
And usually a person (that isn't a store) is selling it at a loss -- if you buy a game for $50 you're not exactly making profit when you sell it to someone else for $20. The only ones who tend to progit are the resellers who buy low and sell for higher. In such a case for the most part you're paying for the service easy availability.

I find it a very odd thing that so many people have this mentality of 'used bad' with video games. I've NEVER seen it with music or movies or anything else. You don't want an item but someone else has use for it so you sell it to them....it's a concept that goes back to ancient times. There's nothing special about games that anyone should consider it on the same level as illegal copyright infringement.

[Duckilous]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Originally posted by Duckilous:

For physical copies however, it's not just shifting ownership because it's not like people are simply giving a copy of the game to their friends for free.
They're making profit off from somebody's works which I find a bit distasteful unless the developer/publisher aren't selling it anymore and/or the platform it runs on has been discontinued.
As a consumer, I wanted my money to go towards someone who actually made the product.
If I don't like it, I'd refund the product and tell other people to NOT buy it.
If it's simply not for me, I'd still refund it because I want my entire money back.
I'm not saying that used games are bad or wrong, it is legal at least but you're truly not supporting the people who made the game and you have no reason to when you already own a legal copy.

When you buy a game at a store you're giving money to the store. The publisher already made the full amount they'd make. You're not supporting anyone but the store in that case.
Buying it used from someone else is not actually different, there's just an extra transaction involved in the middle there. The publisher made its money on that copy of the game. With physical copies there's only a limited number of items extant in the first place.

I hope you're not speculating that the publishers printing physical copies already made millions of dollars by simply selling the copies to the retailers and by that point, all the customers' money just leads to the store and nothing else, no shares or anything because it was the retailers that bought the copies.
There would be no risk of companies suffering from losses due to commercial failures if that's the case.

Perhaps you should elaborate what you meant and back it up with sources because I'm curious to know how the process actually works.

And usually a person (that isn't a store) is selling it at a loss -- if you buy a game for $50 you're not exactly making profit when you sell it to someone else for $20. The only ones who tend to progit are the resellers who buy low and sell for higher. In such a case for the most part you're paying for the service easy availability.

I knew you'd say something like this just because I said "profit" on the basis that someone earns more than their losses instead of the basis of someone simply gaining money.
I get what you mean but I rather just refund the product if I'm not satisfied with it.

I find it a very odd thing that so many people have this mentality of 'used bad' with video games. I've NEVER seen it with music or movies or anything else. You don't want an item but someone else has use for it so you sell it to them....it's a concept that goes back to ancient times. There's nothing special about games that anyone should consider it on the same level as illegal copyright infringement.

Different art culture? I wouldn't know myself since I'm not a big music or movie guy but for anything else, people do tend to differentiate between art products and necessary goods.
I know I said I rather have my money go towards someone who made the product but not literally everything. I honestly care less about the people who produced some tools and appliances than artists making a living by entertaining others.