Any games like this ?

[Kiwoeoe]

Hey game looks cool its just not fun for me to be a asteroid miner, so my question is there anygame like this but with actual space combat and fleet managment ?

[Stellar Remnant]

Have you looked at Children of a Dead Earth?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/476530/Children_of_a_Dead_Earth/

[Kyrros]

There's always the classic Grandfather of this entire genre, Escape Velocity (plus its sequels 'Escape Velocity: Override' and 'Escape Velocity: Nova'). You can take your ship, and earn your $millions as a Space Merchant, or make extensive use of the combat system and become a space Pirate, Bounty Hunter, or even planet conqueror - all with many different upgrades and new very different ships to be had along the way.

Originally created for Macintosh by Matt Burch and published by (now defunct) Ambrosia Software - there was a PC port for EV: Nova done by the publisher many years ago, and that PC version of EV: Nova allows you to play the original EV and EV:Override as separate "plugins" to EV:Nova itself.

Great series of games. As sequels, they are not related to each other in any way, and each game starts with a new version of the previous EV's universe, re-imagined and expanded upon with a new galactic map, new races, and completely new storylines involving those new races/factions. So you can play them in any order (though it's still recommended that you go in release order, as there are modest changes, additions, and QoL upgrades to the engine for each successive game, and moving backwards may feel... limiting)

[Kyrros]

If you don't feel like dealing with 90's and 00's era 'abandonware', then there's an absolutely FREE (also very well done!) crowd-sourced game that is directly inspired by EV (and occasionally pays homage to it), and is the modern spiritual successor.

Modern engine, modern assets, completely original maps/locales/races/factions/storylines, but still very much in the spirit of its predecessor... and it's actually here on Steam™

https://store.steampowered.com/app/404410/Endless_Sky

[Botji]

There is also Avorion though its 3D and you do need to mine a bit in the start but you can make ships and have the AI do it for you if you want to focus on exploration/combat or whatever but well, it does have a lot of combat and you can have a fleet.
But maybe its a bit too much building/customizing if you dont want that, worth a look tho.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/445220/Avorion/

[Pridesfall]

The X3/X4 series is great.

[Ziggurt]

Originally posted by Kiwoo:

Hey game looks cool its just not fun for me to be a asteroid miner, so my question is there anygame like this but with actual space combat and fleet managment ?

That is kinda ill-defined question... What exactly are you looking for - just a game set in space?


In that case "Nexus - The Jupiter Incident" has both space combat and fleet management together with a campaign. It is old game genre defining game but publisher released a patch in 2016 which lets you play it on modern systems.

On other hand newer game, although still in early access with fleet management is "NEBULOUS: Fleet Command".

Note that neither of those are strictly realistic - Children of a Dead Earth is only "game" that is realistic of those mentioned in this thread. Good luck playing it with partial or non-existing understanding of orbital mechanics.

[Ballsm]

There are a ton of space games out there. Just about all of them have combat and fleet management :-)

[Kiwoeoe]

hey yall first thanks for all the suggestions, Yeah my question is ill defined as ziggurt said, im looking for a Realistic space game, most of the games listed here ive already tried,
Either they dont run anymore like EV, or they are to arcade like x3/4

Nebulous on the other hand is awesome but the combat in there is a bit toooo ... micromanagment heavy, also the ships look hideous, and there is almost no customisation exept for guns and internals,

Im honestly looking for a game like ΔV: Rings of Saturn but in a combat situation alla The expanse, or something like this, most space games for me only get one thing right and the rest is Meh, here in this game even your engine is a weapon, in all of those other games there is no such attention to detail,

Soooo my dream game would be that an Vast space with little bit to do everywhere or just SOL but in great detail, crew managment for everyship with automation options and ofc Resources and fleet managment, optionally a great story but sandbox would be fine with an scenario editor something like this and of realistic orbital mechanics and realistic approach to space combat

[Ziggurt]

Originally posted by Kiwoo:

Nebulous on the other hand is awesome but the combat in there is a bit toooo ... micromanagment heavy, also the ships look hideous, and there is almost no customisation exept for guns and internals,

Gotta disagree HARD with you regarding supposed lack of customization in Nebulous both in complexity and the number of stuff you can do. A basic missile can be modified almost as much as a ship in ΔV: Rings of Saturn (engine, sensors, backup sensors, warhead, behavior, can all be modified*). Tuning the various ships and the synergy between the ships in your task force is big deal in that game. Not surprising since the game is made by devs that serve in a navy IRL.

BUT it is not your thing based on what you write next:

Originally posted by Kiwoo:

Soooo my dream game would be that an Vast space with little bit to do everywhere or just SOL but in great detail, crew managment for everyship with automation options and ofc Resources and fleet managment, optionally a great story but sandbox would be fine with an scenario editor something like this and of realistic orbital mechanics and realistic approach to space combat

Upcoming Falling Frontier may be the game that ticks some of the boxes but generally speaking game that has to cover that many game loops tend to be bad (the game has to be good at what it does at the end and devs have both limited time and money when making games). Finally I will also point out that most games that claim that they are hard science fiction are not.

Anyways linky to Falling Frontier:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1280190/Falling_Frontier/


*Source for missile claim regarding Nebulous :
https://youtu.be/3NyL10hrX58

[Ulgramosh]

How about cosmoteer?
https://store.steampowered.com/app/799600/Cosmoteer_Raumschiffarchitekt__Kommandant/

[🇰🇵Burner🇰🇵]

Originally posted by Kiwoo:

Hey game looks cool its just not fun for me to be a asteroid miner, so my question is there anygame like this but with actual space combat and fleet managment ?

Starsector

[Feesh]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/252070/Gimbal/

Maybe?

[DonVonHulio]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/863590/Starcom_Nexus/

The dev is working on a sequel. It will have expanded customization with more weapons and more shapes.

The main thing with this game is the player designs the entire ship.

[Stellar Remnant]

Originally posted by DonVonHulio:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/863590/Starcom_Nexus/

The dev is working on a sequel. It will have expanded customization with more weapons and more shapes.

The main thing with this game is the player designs the entire ship.

That game doesn't have fleet management. You can only fly/control one ship.

[H.R. Costigan]

Space trading, missions, pirates, bounty hunting. I played the free version for quite some time back in the day. Flying and combat is more like an arcade game. No complex physics here. But there are tons of items and upgrades, different ships and many ways to play and win the game. There is no fleet management, but you can give orders to your wingmen in missions.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/364510/Transcendence/