The Bard's Tale Trilogy

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wildbill Aug 16, 2023 @ 10:15am
HIt Points versus damage
Okay, am I missing something here? I had a character with 360 hit points and he got killed with 27 damage points. What's the math here?

(I hope I can get an answer to this, still waiting for an answer for something I posted over 48 hours ago.)
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Marcycle Aug 16, 2023 @ 10:52am 
Could you use terminology that the game uses? The words you've used in your question can be interpreted in a few different ways.

So a character has HP, which is expressed as a fraction. A fully healed character with 360 max HP shows a fraction of 360/360. Did your character have 360/360 or did it have 20/360?

When a round of battle occurs, the actions of each character is listed on the right. For example, "A Vampire Lord tears at Gwenno, but misses!" or "Gwenno swings at a Demon Lord, and critically hits for 74 points of damage, killing it!" or "A Golem slams Dupre, and hits for 39 points of damage."

What did the "exact text" say? If the enemy simply does "27 points of damage," then the game will subtract 27 from the numerator of your HP fraction. If the value is below zero, then your character dies. But if there are modifiers in addition to damage, for example if the enemy "critically hits for 26 points of damage, killing her!" or "hits for 26 points of damage, turning him to stone!" then in addition to subtracting the damage, a modifier is added to your character. Critical hits instantly kill. Stoned characters turn to stone. etc. Those modifiers may just change your character's state, irrespective of how many HP they just lost.
Last edited by Marcycle; Aug 16, 2023 @ 10:54am
wildbill Aug 16, 2023 @ 11:48am 
360/360. Unless one monster did a 325+ damage to him right before the killing blow hit, I have no idea what happened.

When I saw him immediately died, I checked the text to the right. Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly what it said. It's been a couple of hours. It did mention a critical hit of 26.

So, does it mean they don't have to damage me 360 points, but could instead kill me with a critical hit of 27 because the monster found a weak spot in my armor?
Marcycle Aug 16, 2023 @ 12:17pm 
Originally posted by wildbill:
So, does it mean they don't have to damage me 360 points, but could instead kill me with a critical hit of 27 because the monster found a weak spot in my armor?

Yup, there are certain attacks that have status effects. If you hit [F3] you can see the effects of certain Foes if you've defeated enough of them. For example, a Ghoul has one attack that is listed as "Melee: 9-36 Damage (Wither)," which means that attack has a high likelihood of causing the OLD status, the Demon Lord has an attack listed as "Melee: 32-128 Damage (Petrify)," which means that attack has a high likelihood of causing the STONE status, and the Arms Master has an attack listed as "Melee: 26-224 Damage (Critical hit)," which means that attack has a high likelihood of causing an instant death.

Some Foes cast spells, like the Archmage that casts the Death Strike spell, which means you'll need to look into your spell list to see the effects of that spell.
SkittishKavu1 Aug 16, 2023 @ 4:12pm 
Originally posted by wildbill:
When I saw him immediately died, I checked the text to the right. Unfortunately, I don't remember exactly what it said. It's been a couple of hours. It did mention a critical hit of 26.

In this game, a critical hit = death, rather than bonus damage like in modern games. So if it was indeed a crit, death would follow regardless of listed damage.
wildbill Aug 16, 2023 @ 6:52pm 
Thanks for the info. I wish it was in writing somewhere. Oh, wait, it is. It's here.

BTW, just in case, I posted a question over two days ago with no response. By any chance do you know how to increase the storage space in the bank's safety deposit box? Currently I can only store 10 items, but I know for 50,000 more gold I can increase it to 20. But I don't see where or how that can be done.

Thanks again for your help.
kaypy Aug 16, 2023 @ 11:27pm 
Originally posted by wildbill:
Thanks for the info. I wish it was in writing somewhere
Nah, no-one would ever bother reading stuff like that
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3021437672

I think the second set of item slots may only be available in Volume 2?
Last edited by kaypy; Aug 16, 2023 @ 11:32pm
wildbill Aug 17, 2023 @ 7:25am 
Oh, thanks for the info. Since it mentions it in the first game I thought it would be available there as well. I love it when the instructions are so vague.
wildbill Aug 17, 2023 @ 7:26am 
I just tried the link you posted but it goes nowhere. Is the address correct?
kaypy Aug 17, 2023 @ 8:29am 
Originally posted by wildbill:
I just tried the link you posted but it goes nowhere. Is the address correct?
Hmm. Screenshot was set to private. Public now, but my snark is ruined
wildbill Aug 17, 2023 @ 1:23pm 
Thanks for the image. I missed it earlier.
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