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Chaos god Creature Ottum Vs similar creatures
Honestly, seems very weak in comparison. Compared to Thrasher fiend and even the brownie. Its possible its the mechanics at fault here, traitwise. The additional attacks seem very weak.
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Vagrant Dec 6, 2019 @ 8:44am 
Ottum is much stronger than you think. Firstly, it has a beastly base 35 Attack, in comparison to Thrasher's base 24 or the strongest Brownie's 22. Secondly, those other two deal in "forced spread" damage; if there are no additional targets besides the one you attacked, their traits do nothing, but Ottum is always going to get those additional attacks off on something.

Lastly, the attacks triggered by Ottum's trait are actual attacks, not just "damage", which means that they get to trigger all those fun on attack effects like the Chaos Mage's Magma Diver, Touch of Chaos, %Chance to inflicts, awakened artifact spells, so on and so forth.

If you judge creature strength only by how much carnage happens when you press Attack, Ottum is probably on top of the pile, to be honest.
SpiralRazor Dec 6, 2019 @ 8:49am 
Its base attack is high, aye, and its initial attack hits for good damage, but its follow up attacks seem to be much weaker with no explanation as to why, whereas Thrashers going to be doing 80% of its initial attack each time. I guess Ottum is more focused around things that proc off of actual attacks and attack trigger spell gems.
Vagrant Dec 6, 2019 @ 9:30am 
Originally posted by SpiralRazor:
Its base attack is high, aye, and its initial attack hits for good damage, but its follow up attacks seem to be much weaker with no explanation as to why, whereas Thrashers going to be doing 80% of its initial attack each time. I guess Ottum is more focused around things that proc off of actual attacks and attack trigger spell gems.

It's because of the game's terminology. "Attacks" are checked versus Defense, which means Ottum has to punch through it twice: once on the initial hit, and again for the secondary attacks. Thrasher just has to deal its damage the once and then its trait applies 80% flat without dealing with Defense again.
SpiralRazor Dec 6, 2019 @ 9:52am 
ahh..makes sense.
Rhagon Dec 25, 2019 @ 1:01pm 
I just started recently and am happy with my Ottum choice. I only noticed, that sometimes the extra attacks are aimed at already dead enemies, is this a bug? It says "2 random enemies".
SpiralRazor Dec 25, 2019 @ 1:31pm 
unfortunetly, those enemies are still considered to be part of the combat due to a variety of effects that work off of dead mobs.
Vagrant Dec 26, 2019 @ 10:43am 
Originally posted by Rhagon:
I just started recently and am happy with my Ottum choice. I only noticed, that sometimes the extra attacks are aimed at already dead enemies, is this a bug? It says "2 random enemies".

Attack targets are determined before damage is dealt. If something happens to die, all subsequent attacks aimed at that target are wasted - the game doesn't retarget them for you.

There are effects that can cast multiple spells or cause damage in the same way, and they have the same issue.
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