Yall slasher and rim protector builds

[MERQ]

I'm the only build can play inside as a killer slashing post scorer but guess what? Thx to you i have to play like a guard, paint protector and playmaker. I'm giving those randoms tons of space, fast outlet passes, no cuts but guess what when i had the ball they all keep runing to the paint and even that garbage no offense skill rim-protectors posting up under the paint jeez. Clear my wayyyyy. I had able to make just 4 post move score on 3 guys ofc what a nice! cuz no space other scores 3s and long range middies.

And hobbit guards stop trying to defend paint. Just stick to your picks at 3pt line. Random or not %90 of the players makes this mistake.

2k let's remove the post scorers in this game. Let's keep play as usual Allahu Akbar style cuts, fastbreaks, catch and shoots lol.

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[trc_portman]

You are the GOAT, no one can blame u

[MERQ]

Originally posted by f8dwy:

You are the GOAT, no one can blame u

It's your GOATness...

[scrub]

what do you expect? Everyone is just trying to get open....no one cares about your postup

[Toxico la Moufette]

but wasn't the game already doomed from the beginning because of the team make up? You had no true perimeter players, looks like random team but you won't find many people that actually read the team and opponent composition to understnd they'll have to play outside their arch.

[MERQ]

The problem was they have no chess iq. Score was 50-49 until to 4. quarter and i can tell ez it was beacuse of me if i have to be honest. They just made some lucky scores thats it. You can call this "cocky" but i call this confident. I didn't even touch the ball 2. half cuz they didn't pass. I knew that gonna be happen.

İmagine... game is tight and the best offensive player in your team on takeover and just waiting there but you are keep taking dumb shots as cold, trying stupid layups instead pass to him.

I just watched yo that's it. Did they take lesson? nahh they will keep play their poor game and keep lose. I don't care tbh. Posts already can pass for the lobs or outside threats if they have doubled. Be relax and give them their damn space. Just stop waiting in the paint like a tree when they have the ball.

[trc_portman]

Originally posted by MERQ:

The problem was they have no chess iq. Score was 50-49 until to 4. quarter and i can tell ez it was beacuse of me if i have to be honest. They just made some lucky scores thats it. You can call this "cocky" but i call this confident. I didn't even touch the ball 2. half cuz they didn't pass. I knew that gonna be happen.

İmagine... game is tight and the best offensive player in your team on takeover and just waiting there but you are keep taking dumb shots as cold, trying stupid layups instead pass to him.

I just watched yo that's it. Did they take lesson? nahh they will keep play their poor game and keep lose. I don't care tbh. Posts already can pass for the lobs or outside threats if they have doubled. Be relax and give them their damn space. Just stop waiting in the paint like a tree when they have the ball.

why you don't play with friends like you do in park, that way np for u, MJ can't win alone same goes with you since you are Goat.

[P]

Originally posted by MERQ:

The problem was they have no chess iq. Score was 50-49 until to 4. quarter and i can tell ez it was beacuse of me if i have to be honest. They just made some lucky scores thats it. You can call this "cocky" but i call this confident. I didn't even touch the ball 2. half cuz they didn't pass. I knew that gonna be happen.

It was close because I wasn't playing with them.
Jokes aside, I'm all for soloqueue but unfortunately it's just impossible in rec.

I'll give everyone a chance in park because it's just a 5min game and it's over quickly.
But in rec you get stuck for 30mins and it can be really excruciating, especially if you're the best player on your team and you don't get the ball.

Those people don't care that you have the best W/L and ppg on the team by far, they're just incompetent (don't want to use any stronger words).
And since rec is completely different from park 95% of randoms are completely clueless on how to play it. Even most of those "top park players" with like 90% winrate get blown out because their usual "stretch zig zags behind screens" doesn't work.

Something has to be changed, but we all know it won't and therefore it's impossible to play rec with randoms.
There's no ranking system of any kind and unless you're the most patient person in the world you will want to break your controller by the end of the half.

For example on that x2 XP rec day, I played like 10-12 games. We constantly saw other good teams join, but we ended up playing literally every game against average at best teams and it looked like career grind.

And some people posting on this forum (even this thread) deserve a special mention. Like they act all tough and constantly complain, but they're among the worst people I've played against.

[Alejandro]

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[Jonesy]

Yea but going into a rec game alone with a post is suicide. Their is a reason post scorers play either 2s or 1v1 court since in 3s and rec its a battle of who can hit the most 3s, at least in comp games. Which then means u just end up settings screens and grabbing rebounds, then ur just better off making a glass or rim. Ofc randoms are not gonna let u go into the post every possesion as u should. All these randoms on rec think their kobe in MC and come into rec with the same mentality. Their not gonna randomly start playing like Robert Horry espically if their a slasher build. Shot creating or sharpshooting post makes more sense for rec tbh and you dont need a post to score in the post. Any C build apart from a stretch and be a 80%+ shooter in the post.

[Toxico la Moufette]

I get your points but that's actually why I stopped rec (proam) this year, I used to like it much more than park but this year i think i played like 15 games because I quickly saw that random vs randoms is impossible aside from other issues. I walk in as random and constantly have to play well oiled teams that have super good records when we are all beginners, sometimes 3 slashers which is what I hate the most. Also, and that is personal the court seems smaller, the proportions are weird, very long and narrower.

[M@rF]

Originally posted by Toxico-Billy Hoyle-Amazing:

I get your points but that's actually why I stopped rec (proam) this year, I used to like it much more than park but this year i think i played like 15 games because I quickly saw that random vs randoms is impossible aside from other issues. I walk in as random and constantly have to play well oiled teams that have super good records when we are all beginners, sometimes 3 slashers which is what I hate the most. Also, and that is personal the court seems smaller, the proportions are weird, very long and narrower.

Randoms vs. randoms it´s usually more playable than randoms vs. team (honestly teams should not be allowed to play JRC).Too bad,there is no skill/ovr based matchmaking . The IQ issue it´s obviously a huge problem and i blame 2k to play a part on this,let me explain. 3pt shooting is seriously OP af this year. Especially when we talk about stretches. Next issue with this is the broken contest system,so i think some players just stoped trying to defend sometimes. There is no way players should be hitting multiple contested 3pt shots in a row, when meanwhile you can miss 3 open straight layups even with 95 driving layup. Too often players get random stupid animations and so on.
But let´s back to the IQ thing. When we have this 3pt thing i´ve seen soo many PG with the stupid tendecies to shoot contested shots instead to pass the ball to a cutting man. I have SF shot creating slasher and i had mutiple 7+ assists games (even 14 fewtimes) and i rarely see a PG who has 5+ assist in the game.When he does,it´s like a blessing for me so i can score finally:P
It looks like PGs don´t know,there is not a single pass button.....use bounce or throw an alley jesus.
Defence IG it´s sometimes worst. People don´t know when to switch or they try switch when it´s no need for that. The bad shoot contest don´t make things easier.

[Jonesy]

Originally posted by M@rF:

Next issue with this is the broken contest system

People need to stop complaining about the shot contest system. Its not broken its skill based 2k made it too be like this and they tweaked it slighlty to make it more like pervious years where u can just stand near the guy and get a lighlty. You have to be in front of the guy and press Y or up on the right stick to get a contest. That makes sense, i shouldnt get a rebound by simply being in postion but not pressing Y or anything makes no sense.You shouldnt get a steal on ball or passing lane if u dont press X thats called a skill gap. People dont complain about recoil patterns in csgo becuase its part of the game and if u master it u are an elite player. If u master the contest system then stretches will no longer be shooting straight greens when u behind them or too the side or in front not pressing any buttons. Its the same for every build if u not in good postion too contest a layup then the slasher is hitting it everytime thats the way it should be.

[ZenithM]

Imo the game should explain (in a nice and kind way) to new players that unless you really know what you're doing (I'm talking top 5-10% player), you're going to struggle af if you play random rec with an inside scorer.
Maybe at the character creation they should explain that shooting archetypes are generally easier to play in pick-up games.

OP with this comp I know I'm ♥♥♥♥♥♥ from the start and the opponent has to be REALLY bad to lose that one :D.

When selecting PF they should also indicate that the modern 4 is most likely a floor spacer. We would have less of these rebounder PF or something (like seriously who would you say in the NBA right now a primary rebounder PF...)

[Moses]

Originally posted by ZenithM:

When selecting PF they should also indicate that the modern 4 is most likely a floor spacer. We would have less of these rebounder PF or something (like seriously who would you say in the NBA right now a primary rebounder PF...)

It's mentioned at the PF section when creating a player about stretch players. The importance of it however isn't emphasized enough. On the PF rebounder thing, they get better badges in almost every way you look at it compared to C, so I get why people make em. E.g. pure glass PF gets gold def stopper compared to silver on C while having the same 5 HOF badges.

[P]

Originally posted by Jonesy:

Originally posted by M@rF:

Next issue with this is the broken contest system

People need to stop complaining about the shot contest system. Its not broken its skill based 2k made it too be like this and they tweaked it slighlty to make it more like pervious years where u can just stand near the guy and get a lighlty. You have to be in front of the guy and press Y or up on the right stick to get a contest.

Sorry, but it is completely broken.
I'm 6'8 and on park sliders I can be completely in pure stretch's face (as in right under his legs and he gets some weird animation, usually would be a foul irl) and it's still "lightly contested" 80% of the time.
Other archetypes are mostly fine, guard pure sharps included. But stretches literally make the game not playable.
Win or lose, playing with or against pure stretch is just not fun. They can equip guard jumpers that get high elevation of the ground, are able to dribble around and considering that gather step is too fast, they're literally game breaking.
Sliders are a bit better on rec, but stretches single handedly ruined park, at least for me.

For example I remember playing a park game and being matched up with a stretch who had terrible record. He just keeps chucking 3s, I get 5 heavy contests, he proceeds to shoot 2-5.
That's 40%, which is considered great irl. And if he can bloody shoot 40% on heavily contested shots then what's the point of playing any other archetype when you can just zig zag around screens and some so called elite player will tell you to "d up".

You shouldnt get a steal on ball or passing lane if u dont press X thats called a skill gap.

And yet we do get the steals. Without pressing anything.
How many clean ball steal catches do you see in real NBA? Like where a opposing player catches the ball goalkeeper style? Swiftly jumping into the lane and catching it. I'm talking about good passes, not fumbled balls.
Maybe 1 every couple of games.
Here you have players constantly picking off passes by cleanly catching them.
Not to talk about bloody 360noscope vision on every player and being able to deflect the ball while not even looking at it. When Kawhi did it once this season, it was something amazing and unprecedented, here it happens every other fastbreak.

People dont complain about recoil patterns in csgo becuase its part of the game and if u master it u are an elite player.

Cause CSGO is a bloody balanced game with great servers unlike this piece of garbage. Did you really just compare one of the best multiplayer games in history with one of the worst balanced games that's trying to be competitive?

If u master the contest system then stretches will no longer be shooting straight greens when u behind them or too the side or in front not pressing any buttons. Its the same for every build if u not in good postion too contest a layup then the slasher is hitting it everytime thats the way it should be.

Except that we've all witnessed a countless number of missed layups, even greenlight ones and slasher being unable to finish over smaller guards.
Not to talk about how sharps and stretches which are already the best offensive archetypes if we look at skill required to what you get from them ratio can play great defense.
Pure stretch should be your average Ryan Anderson that gets blown by every time he has to guard someone remotely fast or gets destroyed in the post and on the boards by stronger big man.
But no, in here you get yourself a dirk/curry mix that can play great defense.


Bottom line, this is one of the worst balanced "competitive" games I've ever played and anyone denying it is just a part of the problem.
You said CSGO recoil patterns? Well, in CSGO you exactly know where it recoils and that's it.
In here you can get a heavy contest on a game winning shot and still lose the game.

This game had 2 options when they made it. Either try and be realistic or try and be a competitive game with as little randomness factor as possible. They managed to get the worst of both worlds and we have ourselves a glorified NBA Jam.