Looks like Win10 LTSC isn't supported

[Draaloff]

I was really excited when I saw it on the store last night and bought it right away, but it looks like I'll be refunding as I get the DirectX12 'SM5' issue despite updating my RTX3060 drivers.
First game I've attempted to play that simply won't run on Win10 LTSC.

[Draaloff]

Origineel geplaatst door fungal_entity:

I don't really know what this issue is about, but I'm sorry people are being so rude to you.

Windows 10 comes in various editions. People are most familiar with Home and Pro, but one edition is called LTSC (long term servicing channel).

A new version comes out every 3 years based on the current version of Pro.
LTSC only updates the security and nothing else, which means updates won't break anything.

(Win10 Home and Pro updates used to be infamous for breaking things, and I don't know if this has changed in the last few years)

The only other differences are the lack of bloatware (like Candy crush and adverts), reduced telemetry, and lack of a few minor features like Cortana.

It works 99% of the time with no issues, and when there is one there is usually a way to fix it.

Normally new games just need updated drivers, but in this rare instance the game actually needs an update that was introduced between the 2018 and 2021 versions of LTSC, and I'm on the 2018 version. This is the first time this has been an issue for me.

I don't know why certain people are being so rude about it either, though.

[Coffee]

Origineel geplaatst door Draaloff:

Origineel geplaatst door fungal_entity:

I don't really know what this issue is about, but I'm sorry people are being so rude to you.

Windows 10 comes in various editions. People are most familiar with Home and Pro, but one edition is called LTSC (long term servicing channel).

A new version comes out every 3 years based on the current version of Pro.
LTSC only updates the security and nothing else, which means updates won't break anything.

(Win10 Home and Pro updates used to be infamous for breaking things, and I don't know if this has changed in the last few years)

The only other differences are the lack of bloatware (like Candy crush and adverts), reduced telemetry, and lack of a few minor features like Cortana.

It works 99% of the time with no issues, and when there is one there is usually a way to fix it.

Normally new games just need updated drivers, but in this rare instance the game actually needs an update that was introduced between the 2018 and 2021 versions of LTSC, and I'm on the 2018 version. This is the first time this has been an issue for me.

I don't know why certain people are being so rude about it either, though.

Never had Candy Crush pre-installed on my Windows.

[sunflower]

Origineel geplaatst door Draaloff:

I don't know why certain people are being so rude about it either, though.

Because you start topic and blame developers or game itself. You don't consider a possibility that something can be wrong on your side.

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Origineel geplaatst door sunflower:

Origineel geplaatst door Draaloff:

I don't know why certain people are being so rude about it either, though.

Because you start topic and blame developers or game itself. You don't consider a possibility that something can be wrong on your side.

I simply stated the game didn't appear to support LTSC.
It turns out I wasn't entirely correct, and it appears to run on the latest version of it.
There was no need for you to be so rude.

[Coffee]

Origineel geplaatst door Draaloff:

Origineel geplaatst door sunflower:

Because you start topic and blame developers or game itself. You don't consider a possibility that something can be wrong on your side.

I simply stated the game didn't appear to support LTSC.
It turns out I wasn't entirely correct, and it appears to run on the latest version of it.
There was no need for you to be so rude.

Unsupported doesn't mean it won't run.

[butterdog]

I had to upgrade from LTSC 2018 to 2021/21H2 for one of the Metro games.
It's a bit of a pain in the ass but things do run a bit better.

You also get access to the HAGS options, which either helps games with smoother framerates or completely screws them up. I leave it turned off.

[Alex Atkin UK]

Origineel geplaatst door Draaloff:

Excluding this one, only two games have had any issues:
1) Phasmophobia's text to speech feature (fixed now that it lo longer uses Cortana to work)
2) Inviting people to your crew in Sea of Thieves (fixed by installing Game Bar)

Origineel geplaatst door Ꝙ Ghosthunter Ꝙ:

You can always try going to Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 2021

I intend to attempt an upgrade when I can, as I do actually want to play the game.

Considering how many games are being developed on Unreal Engine 5, I suspect you will find none of them work.

As for stability, I updated to Windows 11 when it launched and have kept updated, not had any issues with updates.

Sure LTSC will have less chance of update issues, at the cost of more chance of games not working as they use newer and newer OS features.

LTSC is for work computers where you need to guarantee no issues, not gaming.

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Origineel geplaatst door Alex Atkin UK:

LTSC is for work computers where you need to guarantee no issues, not gaming.

I use my PC for more than just gaming, so if I had a bad update and had to reinstall Windows it would be a major undertaking to restore everything.

Fortunately LTSC 2021 apparently runs the game just fine unlike the 2018 version, so I simply need to get a new iso through my company after the weekend and update it.

[Оркодав]

Why the heck u even need that LTSC Windows? It is "stable" not because all other versions of Windows are unstable, the word "stable" in description means that it does not receive all the updated because it could lead some sh##tty software to fault however it does not affect the whole stability of the system. It was created specifically for ATMs and other devices to run unaateneded. No single person even if he a n00b. ethusiast or hacker will not benefit from LTSC version, it's a myth

[Оркодав]

Origineel geplaatst door Draaloff:

Origineel geplaatst door Alex Atkin UK:

LTSC is for work computers where you need to guarantee no issues, not gaming.

I use my PC for more than just gaming, so if I had a bad update and had to reinstall Windows

Bruh, u literally do not understand for what LTSC versions are needed for...

[Draaloff]

Origineel geplaatst door AZOV:

No single person even if he a n00b. ethusiast or hacker will not benefit from LTSC version, it's a myth

Windows 10 updates used to be notorious for breaking people's systems, and for all I know still are.
LTSC runs just fine 99% of the time, as very few programs rely on the latest feature updates.

[sunflower]

The main reason you should consider to not use LTSC for PC where you are playing games - developers never test their gaming on such configurations.

You want some unexpected problems - go ahead. The ultimate question - what is worse, tinkering with bad update (which happens super rarely if you don't use outdated software/device/driver), or tinkering with games which doesn't work properly and was never tested on your configuration.

Origineel geplaatst door Ꝙ Ghosthunter Ꝙ:

Origineel geplaatst door Draaloff:

I simply stated the game didn't appear to support LTSC.

Unsupported doesn't mean it won't run.

This ^. Unsupported means software may work, or may not work.

Origineel geplaatst door Draaloff:

so if I had a bad update and had to reinstall Windows it would be a major undertaking to restore everything.

Windows has update rollback feature from the times of XP (if I am not mistaken). I don't remember such cases, when update was causing so much damage, that Windows can't roll it back and complete reinstall was required.

[Starl1ght]

If you are on OS that was released in 2018 (first W10 LTSC) - Well, that's not the game's problem.

[Оркодав]

Origineel geplaatst door Draaloff:

Origineel geplaatst door AZOV:

No single person even if he a n00b. ethusiast or hacker will not benefit from LTSC version, it's a myth

Windows 10 updates used to be notorious for breaking people's systems, and for all I know still are.

Another myth. I had never experienced a crash or break-downs after any update in Windows 10. Maybe if you have your system sh#t-loaded with plenty of unuseful staff such as windows blinds themes and customizations maybe there could be potential issues... but I doubt that you have those softwares installed if you are 20y.o.+

[Draaloff]

Origineel geplaatst door AZOV:

Another myth. I had never experienced a crash or break-downs after any update in Windows 10.

Just because YOU never had issues doesn't mean it's a myth. Plenty of people have.