La-Mulana 2

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Slayer Aug 6, 2018 @ 3:34am
[SPOILERS] Infernal Beast, Colossal Dragon?
I saw the spoiler accidentally. I want to know how could I deduce this.
I had these tablets:

"Infernal fiend bites into the neck of the colossal dragon." - I was searching the murals but could not find it.

"Within the belly of the crawling infernal fiend." - This was in the chest room and refered the hollow moving platform."Why the hell did they use the same blue colored name for this small puzzle?

"Incant at the colossal dragon's neck: list of the mantras and where this will take me." - Well, aside from that scattered asian dragon statues, how does the game gives a hint, that full location is a dragon? Is there any tablet for this?
Last edited by Slayer; Aug 6, 2018 @ 3:39am
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Halfshell Aug 6, 2018 @ 3:53am 
The best logic for this solution is that the map is designed based on a dragon mural. I don't understand it fully myself, but maps are made based on mural drawings. So if you see Brahmas I believe a certain place looks like a dragon and that this would be it's neck. Also this area has the most dragon theming of any place and a "neck" would logically be somewhere high - but this is a weaker interpretation.

I don't remember seeing "Infernal fiend bites into the neck of the colossal dragon." either. Not really that it would help solve it much. Also it is possible that that "belly" hint was intentionally placed in a hollow thing room to throw you off. Again, even if you realize its the hint, how does it help? We already know we want the thing in the belly of the Infernal Fiend. We are looking for the dragon.

So basically this puzzle is jank and requires some serious out of box thinking no matter how you approach it. And no, room name is not a hint - its just a shrine where Izanagi and Izanami lie. They are not even twins, just siblings so its a very light hint at best.
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Slayer Aug 6, 2018 @ 4:34am 
I don't think that devs inserted this out of box thinking puzzle intentionally after dozens of logical yet hard puzzles. Tablets never lie or throw you off (you can break the fake one). Maybe there is a better explanation in japanese, maybe this japanese themed dragon puzzle is better solved with hieroglyphs and we have a case of mistranslation.

There is a pink underline on the map of that "neck" room, which means it's connected to some other location, but I could never deduce that it was a "neck".
Halfshell Aug 6, 2018 @ 4:37am 
The underline is probably the only real hint that people would use to solve it (others are ridiculous). As its the only inter-map connection point left unchecked. So males the "bite" tablet relevant if you work out what it means. Even then, this is still the vaguest puzzle in the game. Still, that requires finding the bite tablet that seems almost universally missed.
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Ryusui Aug 6, 2018 @ 5:23am 
The room where you use the mantra combo is called "Infernal Fiend's Jaw." Therefore, it is also "the colossal dragon's throat." (Plus it's marked on the map as being a directional exit.)
Halfshell Aug 6, 2018 @ 5:30am 
According to a Japanese speaker the room name is a shrine.
Juno Brier Aug 6, 2018 @ 5:33am 
The game really does a poor job of helping you make the connection between the map's shape and certain symbols within the map.

In fact, the only other time it's brought up aside from this puzzle is the hint Fobos gives you for the Gauntlet.
Slayer Aug 6, 2018 @ 5:33am 
Labyrinth rooms which are named Monster Room (chest room with fiend platform) and Monster's Jaw, are above of that "neck" room where you cast mantra, while the Twins Room (Cog chest) is below. "Neck" room has japanese name
Last edited by Slayer; Aug 6, 2018 @ 5:34am
Halfshell Aug 6, 2018 @ 5:40am 
Originally posted by Slayer:
Labyrinth rooms which are named Monster Room (chest room with fiend platform) and Monster's Jaw, are above of that "neck" room where you cast mantra, while the Twins Room (Cog chest) is below. "Neck" room has japanese name
Originally posted by Kana:
Originally posted by BBX:
Now, if "Awagigahara" means something like Monster Jaw, then I can see that being legit
Awagigahara is 阿波岐原 a location referenced in the Kojiki.
Unfortunately i don't know the english translation, but here's the relevant bits:

阿波岐原は、日本最古の歴史書「古事記」の舞台で、祝詞の冒頭では「筑紫の日向の橘の小戸の阿波岐原」と唱えられています。
阿波岐原の広大な松林にある江田神社は、男神イザナキと女神イザナミを祀っています。

It's where the shrine of Izanagi and Izanami lie.

It describes it as a vast pine forest.
ElMaco Aug 6, 2018 @ 5:59am 
The room name doesn't matter if you realize the Takamagahara shrine is shaped like the colossal dragon. It's not easy to make that connection however, not until you see the Brahma map (it shows the infernal fiend biting the dragon's neck). So I think they meant you to do the Brahma puzzle first.
Last edited by ElMaco; Aug 6, 2018 @ 6:09am
I was going through all the maps, trying to decipher them into dragons, one by one, and none of them looked like anything except for Eternal Prison looking like the two wings I found in a mural.
That map doesn't resemble anything near a dragon, and that isn't anything close to a neck.
I then look up further guides, it mentions scorch marks in the room, and the best interpretation I have of that, is that the side of the pillar looks a little sooty.

There's no excuses for this puzzle. There's no "logic". The best hints that you get for this is the tombstone simply saying "Where is this?", and after going down a list of "The octopus's butthole?", "The cat's left cheek?", "The left corner of three potatoes?" you arrive at the wierdest description in the game.
Curly Aug 6, 2018 @ 6:13am 
https://imgur.com/a/7vC4SGf
a big hint here is the race scanner as the "where is this?" was written by the olympians: the inhabitants of heavens labyrinth
Last edited by Curly; Aug 6, 2018 @ 6:15am
Originally posted by Curly:
https://imgur.com/a/7vC4SGf
Oh, so that heart blob thing is supposed to be an "infernal fiend"???
ElMaco Aug 6, 2018 @ 6:21am 
See my previous post. The Brahma map clearly shows Heaven's Labyrinth is the infernal fiend, and it's even biting the dragon's neck.
Curly Aug 6, 2018 @ 6:24am 
Originally posted by Flibedi-floob:
Originally posted by Curly:
https://imgur.com/a/7vC4SGf
Oh, so that heart blob thing is supposed to be an "infernal fiend"???
https://i.imgur.com/MNUpFYb.png probably easier to see here
Slayer Aug 6, 2018 @ 6:31am 
Welp, those words won't lead you to the infernal fiend's jaw. Room named Monster's Jaw is B3 while the room where the words lead you is A5 (TwinsRoom)
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