spiral hell Grapple claw insanity

[pakmanx11]

So how many other people gave up 3 rooms away from the last boss because of the grapple claw room. I literrally cannot grab the same wall twice so if i don't get the perfect jump the first time it's a visit to fenrir and then do it all over again. at least with a precision double jump you can skip the whole first set.

[CarThief]

Wait, you where meant to grapple-claw them? I uh, just jumped down, then double-jumped onto the bottom-right bit... :P

Can't you just hold up-right/left to grab, then quickly release and hold again to gently lower yourself, though? I hope that Fenrir down there doesn't respawn, i mean, the final boss is hard enough as-is even with full health... You don't even get a checkpoint like you would dying to an ahnk/guardian boss, sheesh.

Also heard something about a shortcut if you fall down instead of traverse the room that's left of the flying miniboss with the shield that spits tons of projectiles at you, but i haven't checked yet, didn't really work up the motivation to try again, so far. Figured i'd get more ammo/apps/etc first...
Doesn't help the place is giving me hell-temple vibes from the first game, that place was just nasty.

It's a pity they went the frustrating and cheap route with LM2's bosses, i don't recall having to pistol-spam the majority of LM1's bosses, except the last boss maybe. And the guy with the spaceship in LM1 was a real jerk, but i had other subweapons that worked, too. LM2, though? It's pistol or bust, aparrantly. Shurikens become useless reeeaallly quickly against guardians. If only they didn't keep adding extra zeroes to the HP and damage output of every boss during every ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ patch. It's as if they don't even test this ♥♥♥♥, i swear.

[MagiKarp]

There's a grail tablet after that grapple room. It's under the room with Ratatoskr just before the final boss.

There's also a shortcut door in the room under Skuld that connects that room to the entrance.

[CarThief]

Huh, it has a grail tablet? Now that's some motivation, i mean, really, a tough last-boss either needs a checkpoint or a nearby grail tablet, after all... It may be La-Mulana, but that's no reason to intentionally make things super-stressful because of the lack of basic convenience and anti-frustration features like save points.

Guess i'll have to go search for that later-on then, along with said shortcut.

[Juno Brier]

That spike shaft room is what made me give up in the Hell Temple in the first game. The more forgiving jump physics here made it so much easier.

In fact on my second playthrough I cleared that room on my first try somehow. Now if only the final boss wasn't so absurdly difficult on hard mode....

[Krusk]

Yeah, you can actually fall right through the middle of the first shaft of spikes, and double jump onto the platform, and on the second you can manage to land on the platform if you make it MOST of the way down, and mess up. Because of the grail tablet it doesn't really matter if you do either. You just have to be able to get past the monsters and Mr. Ratty which isn't so bad because he stupidly charges into platforms and stuff, as usual.

[JH1000]

What do you mean by "can't grab the same wall twice? All you have to do is press into the wall and hit up every time you want to stop...

It's very easy, but if you really can't do it with grappling then you can either just damage boost through the spikes or jump down the middle and double jump into the exit, as someone else mentioned.

Also there is a shortcut door two rooms before the spikes, and a grail tablet right after. It's really forgiving.

[pakmanx11]

Originally posted by MagiKarp:

There's a grail tablet after that grapple room. It's under the room with Ratatoskr just before the final boss.

There's also a shortcut door in the room under Skuld that connects that room to the entrance.

I have the shortcut already, thanks.

[pakmanx11]

Originally posted by Cifer:

What do you mean by "can't grab the same wall twice? All you have to do is press into the wall and hit up every time you want to stop...

It's very easy, but if you really can't do it with grappling then you can either just damage boost through the spikes or jump down the middle and double jump into the exit, as someone else mentioned.

Also there is a shortcut door two rooms before the spikes, and a grail tablet right after. It's really forgiving.

I know it's a thing to be able to regrab the wall but I can't do it. Same reason I never got the one item in the inferno cavern in the first game. Heck it was all i could do to get the stuff at the top of Dark lord's mauseleum pyramid.

[WRuddick]

just jump down the middle and jump to the side when you reach the bottom

[Yung BladerJoe-]

If you have a controller use the d-pad, not the control stick as this makes grappling much easier

[Ryusui]

OH MY GOD THERE'S A GRAIL TABLET IN SPIRAL HELL?!?

I, uh. I just save my Lamp of Time for that final corridor with Screwy Squirrel and friends and rush on through. ^_^;

And yeah, there's no need to use the grapple claw, just the double-jump. The timing is tricky for the second drop (since you have to jump just before you fall off-screen) but it's doable. Also take heart that if you do screw up, Fenrir dies in one hit. XD

[WRuddick]

Originally posted by Ryusui:

OH MY GOD THERE'S A GRAIL TABLET IN SPIRAL HELL?!?

I, uh. I just save my Lamp of Time for that final corridor with Screwy Squirrel and friends and rush on through. ^_^;

And yeah, there's no need to use the grapple claw, just the double-jump. The timing is tricky for the second drop (since you have to jump just before you fall off-screen) but it's doable. Also take heart that if you do screw up, Fenrir dies in one hit. XD

Fall down in ratatoskr room in the middle and boom theres the grail point