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Dragonsblade Jun 16, 2022 @ 10:54pm
Button to override mouse steering
I would like to have a button that you can hold (Say ALT), that will allow you to stop mouse steering, so that you can interact with UI elements.
As far as I can see there isn't an option currently. It's just annoying to have my ship spin around when going to click a hail option, or to change a fleet command.
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MrPurple33 Jun 17, 2022 @ 6:04am 
There is a button- Ctrl at the bottom Left of the keyboard toggles between Mouse Steering and a Keyboard based WASD setup

I still find the Mouse to be much easier, as my brain gets confused about WASD positioning when my sip changes direction, or moves in a circle- but it often comes in handy to alternate between the two

For example, I mostly suck at manually firing 360 Turrets, and usually just Let AI Gunners man them- Usually If I try to aim a turret and Steer with the Mouse, the entire ship rotates, I go off course, and the Turret Weapon still misses

But recently I've been piloting an Archemides which ONLY has 360 Turrets- I'll fly most of the time with the Mouse Steering, but then set a path parallel or angled at an enemy ship, switch to WASD but hardly use it, just cruising at a set path, and then better aiming and firing with the Turret- THEN I switch quickly back to Mouse Steering and manoevre away- I've been getting so much better that I can now shoot down incoming missiles with a PD Laser

Another example is my Goliath- it has a Ludicrously Long Range, Massive Damage Dual Plasma Cannon, but it is also mounted on a " \/ " angled mount- so Long Range, I cruise in with the Mouse, switch to "Straight Ahead Cruise" mode, fire a bunch of shots I can aim and also angle and aim, then go back to Mouse Steering

It also works as you want it to in the above Post Dragonsblade- you can set a path, click the Mouse Steering off, then cruise as you use the Mouse to now click onto another Ship to Hail, set it up for Healing, or Target and Fire on it, OR to just cruise and reorder the Fleet, take a Look at your Ship's Crew, or check your Weapons or Cargo, but you still maintain your course and direction

Oddly, the 2 times I use Ctrl to be steady and still the most is with taking Screen Snapshots, and Testing Out Weapons- everything gets Lined up nicely and then "frozen" still for Snapshots- and for Weapon Testing I can get non-moving, more accurate ranges and firing angles to fine-tune and compare Weapon Crafting setups, ROF rates, Heat Overloads on specific mounts, and Energy Drain and Usage

Hope that helps you Dragonsblade- I know it has uses for me
Last edited by MrPurple33; Jun 17, 2022 @ 6:06am
Dragonsblade Jun 17, 2022 @ 6:42am 
Originally posted by MrPurple33:
There is a button- Ctrl at the bottom Left of the keyboard toggles between Mouse Steering and a Keyboard based WASD setup

I still find the Mouse to be much easier, as my brain gets confused about WASD positioning when my sip changes direction, or moves in a circle- but it often comes in handy to alternate between the two

For example, I mostly suck at manually firing 360 Turrets, and usually just Let AI Gunners man them- Usually If I try to aim a turret and Steer with the Mouse, the entire ship rotates, I go off course, and the Turret Weapon still misses

But recently I've been piloting an Archemides which ONLY has 360 Turrets- I'll fly most of the time with the Mouse Steering, but then set a path parallel or angled at an enemy ship, switch to WASD but hardly use it, just cruising at a set path, and then better aiming and firing with the Turret- THEN I switch quickly back to Mouse Steering and manoevre away- I've been getting so much better that I can now shoot down incoming missiles with a PD Laser

Another example is my Goliath- it has a Ludicrously Long Range, Massive Damage Dual Plasma Cannon, but it is also mounted on a " \/ " angled mount- so Long Range, I cruise in with the Mouse, switch to "Straight Ahead Cruise" mode, fire a bunch of shots I can aim and also angle and aim, then go back to Mouse Steering

It also works as you want it to in the above Post Dragonsblade- you can set a path, click the Mouse Steering off, then cruise as you use the Mouse to now click onto another Ship to Hail, set it up for Healing, or Target and Fire on it, OR to just cruise and reorder the Fleet, take a Look at your Ship's Crew, or check your Weapons or Cargo, but you still maintain your course and direction

Oddly, the 2 times I use Ctrl to be steady and still the most is with taking Screen Snapshots, and Testing Out Weapons- everything gets Lined up nicely and then "frozen" still for Snapshots- and for Weapon Testing I can get non-moving, more accurate ranges and firing angles to fine-tune and compare Weapon Crafting setups, ROF rates, Heat Overloads on specific mounts, and Energy Drain and Usage

Hope that helps you Dragonsblade- I know it has uses for me
Not sure if you have altered your settings, but I just tried CTRL, and it does nothing. I checked the settings, and it says that Left CTRL is set to "Spinning Roll". I cannot find any setting in there to switch steering modes. The only place to switch the mode, is on the UI, which is kinda the same problem. You still need to move the mouse to click it.
WeaverSong Jun 17, 2022 @ 7:17am 
The control you are looking for is labeled "Change steering mode"; it's the 21st on the keybindings list.
Dragonsblade Jun 17, 2022 @ 8:20am 
Originally posted by WeaverSong:
The control you are looking for is labeled "Change steering mode"; it's the 21st on the keybindings list.
Ah, yes, I have found it now. I swear I looked 3-4 times, and missed it every time. Thanks.
While a toggle option is nice, if possible I would love a hold option so I can hold it and use the mouse to interact with the UI, then release and return to mouse steering.
Toggle's are nice, but sometimes I forget which mode it is in!
MrPurple33 Jun 17, 2022 @ 9:24am 
My Apologies Dragonsblade- It appears I DID change my "Steering Mode" to Ctrl Long ago, and even though I have 10 different (currently) Game Profiles, once you set up or modify your keyboard control input, the Game just keeps it that way for all Save Games, even when you start new games (which is good, some Game Titles make you redo a control scheme EVERY new start)

So once I switched that one command on my first playthrough, it's stayed that way automatically for every other Game I started, and I've assumed Ctrl WAS the default setting for "Steering Mode"

You actually had me curious so I Loaded In and hit the "Default Mode" and yep, "Steering Mode" was Listed as "Back Quote" ??? Which I have NO IDEA what Button THAT is- and we already have "Spinning Roll" with A and D and that's mostly for Yachts and Shuttles, so I changed mine to Ctrl which is in a Good Setup with all the other Auxilliary Control Keys




So apologies again for accidentally misleading you- But I'm glad I helped a Little so that WeaverSong came in and gave the correct information to you- Not Sure what button you'll end up using, but having mine at Ctrl has been excellent for fluidly Toggling back-and-forth between the two Steering Modes and doing some nice manouevers and shooting
Laious  [developer] Jun 17, 2022 @ 11:29am 
It used to be CTRL, don't feel bad MrPurple :)
It is still CTRL because I decided not to reset player key binds when I changed those.
MrPurple33 Jun 17, 2022 @ 11:59am 
Originally posted by Laious:
It used to be CTRL, don't feel bad MrPurple :)
It is still CTRL because I decided not to reset player key binds when I changed those.
OK good to hear

So I WASN'T CRAZY- it WAS Ctrl - Cool you didn't force that change on people, at Least for me Ctrl is a nice spot for it- there are game moments where you need that back-and-forth switching
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Date Posted: Jun 16, 2022 @ 10:54pm
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