Ultimate Weapon stats discussion, advice and opinion needed!

[Xianying]

I wonder is this good enough?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1559118803
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1559122087
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1559118727

Especially for Orochi X. I wonder is Tri-Element and Slay better or BoltSlay and maybe osmosis or other stat better?!?!? Also, Is berserker better or rigor? Because Orochi X's 2nd and 3rd charge attack seems broken even without rigor, but if it's really good, ill change berserker to Rigor. Or if i can change Tri-Element and Slay into BoltSlay and Rigor but taking the risk of 4x damage to myself? LOL! (This discussion applies to all of my characters although I don't really wanna risk having both Berserk and Rigor together to non Power catagory characters because they are quite squishy and easily interupted during attacks when attacked and taking another 2x damage will kill them instantly. Unless the 4x is not stackable then it will be good.)

SOMEONE PLEASE HELP!!!

[Gipsy Dragon]

I think there's unanswered questions on whether mulitple elements can proc at once. I'm not sure if tri element overcomes that, or just exacerbates the problem. Might be better to have boltslay just so any element proccing is always bolt, instead of ice or fire. Don't know for sure, sorry.

[双葉]

I don't play english version, so the name of element may be different from game.
First, as frozoen enemy only trigger wind/bolt/slay once, it is disrecommend to use ice on character with mutilple hit.
As a sample:

For Athena, I would recommend WindSlay/FireSlay, Aggression, Agility, Reach, Absorption, Courage, Windstorm, Surge.

Slay is must.

Bolt only deal damage to ground enemy, Athena mainly use C6(charge attack after 5 normal attack), it is useless.
Wind can break guard and Athena is not a power type. But petrified enemy only trigger wind/bolt/slay once too.
Fire only deal damage to air enemy, it can improve damage when Athena using C6.

Aggression, Courage improve her damage to officer.

Agility, Reach, Absorption give she more survival ability.

Windstorm gain a huge damge & hit after you kill a officer.

Surge improve magic restore speed for orochi category. After the newest update, charge magic of new artifact is so op that highly recommended keeping all time. Surge can help it.

To other characters, the ideas are same.

First, what attack he mainly used? Charge, normal, haste, musou or magic?
Normal and magic do not support element. If they are mainly used, u need Wrath or Brilliance. For speed type and tech type, they need musou to avoid attack or run shadow attack. Wrath is better than Brilliance.
If their mainly attack support element. Multiple hit or one hit?
Multiple hit = no ice.

Is a power type?
Power type can break gurad by learning skill, consider bolt or fire first. Others wind is better.

Steadfast.
Dose the char mainly use horse attack? Yes, consider it. No, forget this.

Is the char slow or low range? > Agility, Reach

Not enough damge to officer?
Aggression, Courage is better than other elements.

Absorption & Osmosis.
Absorption is nearly must. Does the char higly use musou? If yes, consider Osmosis.

Need windstorm or not?
It generate a windstorm after kill a officer. The damage of windstorm depend on ur attack. It can give you lots of hits and insane killing ability to group enmey. If ur char lack the ability of kill group enemy, choose it.

Surge.
Increase status by killing count.
For 3 kingdom category, increase attack to officer and monster.
For sengou category, increase attack to solider.
For orochi category, increase restore speed of magic.
Sengou category = no need.
3 kingdom category can consider.
If orochi chars highly use magic, consider it too.

Other element.
If there r still some slots left, consider these.

[KOS-MOS]

I like to use this build on all my warriors weapons and it's killing pretty much anything in a few hits even lvl 50 officers in chaotic mode.

Flamebolt +10
Windslay +10
Absorption +10
Osmosis +10

Reach +10
Divinity +10
Destruction +10
Wrath

This will be you when using this build - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EfhAFA2yFE

[btw you can use something else besides wrath if you don't have it or like it, also you can replace reach with Agility +10 or anything else you like if you are using a warrior that already has good reach]

If you don't have these weapon elements a good way to farm them is go to pandemonium missions and kill officers with these abilities equipped to your weapon =

Appraisal +10
Prosperity +10

[RandyJr]

Wrath and Brilliance, how do these work? What attributes do they add? do you need attributes as well for these to add?

[双葉]

Publicado originalmente por juniorff808:

Wrath and Brilliance, how do these work? What attributes do they add? do you need attributes as well for these to add?

Fire, ice, wind, bolt, slay, absorption and osmosis. These elements only trigger on some charge attacks, hastes, some musous and some magics. Wrath and Brilliance make them trigger on attack which don't trigger like normal attack.

It can be easily found by attack path. As a sample, attack can trigger fire will display flame effect on the attack path.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1559707351
Trigger element, flame effect on attack path.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1559707389
No trigger

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1559712269
Musou trigger element, flame, wind, lighting effect on attack path

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1559712153
Musou don't trigger

[Taterz]

Publicado originalmente por Gipsy Dragon:

I think there's unanswered questions on whether mulitple elements can proc at once. I'm not sure if tri element overcomes that, or just exacerbates the problem. Might be better to have boltslay just so any element proccing is always bolt, instead of ice or fire. Don't know for sure, sorry.

they absolutely do stack. i've seen a frozen enemy take fire damage. you can prove it pretty easily too, as the particle effects will show both elements when it triggers. most people avoid ice because it roots enemies and messes up combos, but it can be useful for monsters.

[KOS-MOS]

Publicado originalmente por Taterz:

Publicado originalmente por Gipsy Dragon:

I think there's unanswered questions on whether mulitple elements can proc at once. I'm not sure if tri element overcomes that, or just exacerbates the problem. Might be better to have boltslay just so any element proccing is always bolt, instead of ice or fire. Don't know for sure, sorry.

they absolutely do stack. i've seen a frozen enemy take fire damage. you can prove it pretty easily too, as the particle effects will show both elements when it triggers. most people avoid ice because it roots enemies and messes up combos, but it can be useful for monsters.

Yeah i avoid using ice because of that xD