What is the drop rate of gems?

[Lokthar]

Because in two weeks, I mine like a crazy between 1 to 3 hours by day and I only found 2 gems... I think I got more MVP cards in Ragnarok Online within the same timeframe :P

I regret very much to unlock the jewelry technologie (1000 LP... :( ). I can't even try the laser rapiers. Three same gems for one weapon who will last what, 200 to 300 hits before getting broken? The Machete durability drop to -0.5% by hit, so 200 hits before breaking, but the construction cost is very cheap, so it' balanced.
I don't know if I'm really unlucky, but it's quite discouraging ... Maybe increase the base chances of getting a little more, or even create an item in the jewelry branch which increases the chance of getting a gem.

[ai_enabled]

Hello!

You can trade gems with other players. Usually, some of them are willing to sell gems at a reasonable price (especially if they're just not interested in decorative items). Some players even setup trading terminals to buy/sell them.
We will consider adjusting the drop rates but so far most players didn't report this as a serious obstacle.

And Laser rapier's durability is 500 hits.

Regards!

[Lokthar]

I tried to exchange with other players, but except the new players who do not know what it is for, most players prefer to keep theirs, even if they do not use them so much that it's rare.
I can even hear some say "My precious ..." xD

The gold rate is fine, it is exchanged very well between players, but it is quite the opposite with gems.

And for the Laser rapier's, a single gem can be enough, no ?
500 hits it's passing quickly, especially against the damn crabs... ^^'
Because 3 gems of the same color ... The rapier will stay in the bottom of the drawer and I will take a plasma rifle instead :P

[Lokthar]

Before the wipe in March, could you do a test and increase the drop rate ? for example (I don't know the current rate) mining (lvl15) 0.1% to (lvl20) 0.5%?
We will then see if this rate causes problems. Because in a server with a 100th to 200th players, there are many people who want to get their hands on it. And for objects with "very low" durability, it's a little too painful to find them.

I mine an average of 1h to 1h30 per day, so in a week, after about 10 hours of mining, I got nothing. Until now, my average is around one gem for 20 hours of work.

[ai_enabled]

We will consider improvements in this regard. The standard OS random function with such low chance could be very unforgiving sometimes so maybe we change the mechanic a bit, increase the chance, or change the random function to more predictable which will make the gems drop more consistent.

Regards!

[Diligent Diamond]

Just a reminder

1. Max Melee Weapon skill lowers degradation 20% at max lvl... so 600 hits(who uses a laser sword on crabs!?! (copper club))
2. Maintenance Skill max will make duct tape repair 40% on 2 lazer swords.(Basically adds 200 more hits(100 per sword))

Suggestions

1. Make specific gems drop from specific nodes. ie. emeralds from sand, diamonds from coal etc. So you can concentrate on what you want.
2. REALLY OLD IDEA... make tier 4 and 5 picks and axes. When the game first came out on steam I mentioned Gas powered jackhammer, chainsaw, and gas powertools as an early game gas sink since I had 5 barrels of gas back then. We now have a gas genny but could use more sinks. Tier 5 could be a new steel prag alloy. Both would have higher crit chance for rare drops and tier 5 items would have a yield multiplier. Seems very doable and fills out those trees nicely and gives ppl what they want.

My 2 coins worth.

[RawCode]

this game require LESS grind, not more, instead of randomness make gems come from deposits similar to oil and lithium with reasonable time.

[xMarekSvk]

Sadly, this game is little grindy for solo players. Otherwise is fun for groups.

[ai_enabled]

Indeed. We have several good ideas for the future updates and the upcoming update will see massive improvements in this regard. We've mentioned about it here https://steamcommunity.com/app/829590/discussions/3/2242175020582172878/#c4594180031247350268

[Miller]

@Diligent Diamond, i know that tourmaline comes from clay in the middle map. The others 3 drop from whats? can you give the coordinates please?

[Zorz]

Originally posted by ai_enabled:

Hello!

You can trade gems with other players. Usually, some of them are willing to sell gems at a reasonable price (especially if they're just not interested in decorative items). Some players even setup trading terminals to buy/sell them.
We will consider adjusting the drop rates but so far most players didn't report this as a serious obstacle.

And Laser rapier's durability is 500 hits.

Regards!

Originally posted by ai_enabled:

We will consider improvements in this regard. The standard OS random function with such low chance could be very unforgiving sometimes so maybe we change the mechanic a bit, increase the chance, or change the random function to more predictable which will make the gems drop more consistent.

Regards!

Originally posted by ai_enabled:

Indeed. We have several good ideas for the future updates and the upcoming update will see massive improvements in this regard. We've mentioned about it here https://steamcommunity.com/app/829590/discussions/3/2242175020582172878/#c4594180031247350268

this is the topic: "What is the drop rate of gems?"

so what is the drop rate exactly or what is the formula?

[Alethra]

Gems should be rare ... I get that. But I think they are a little too rare. Looking on the map I'm in, for example, if I want to trade with other players, there are only two gems for sale on the whole map (and very expensive). I have found one gem since the wipe. Just one. My mining skill is 20. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind things being very rare. But in this case it seems too rare. It takes the fun out of the game for me because I feel like I have no hope of ever making one of those cool looking weapons you can make with gems (much less repairing it after only 600 shots! If I get to make one, I'd probably never shoot it because I would be afraid I wouldn't be able to find gems to make another one and do the repairs). I think that's one of my biggest gripes with this game ... the weapons/armor, etc., all decay much too fast. I can easily wear out a gun in an hour. Any time I go hunting I have to make sure I have at least two guns and an extra suit of armor. Anyway, upping the chances of mining a gem just a tad would really make the game more enjoyable and still keep the gems rare. It's hard to find that balance, I know. Thank you for making the game.

[mikeydsc]

The drop rate is 0.1% per node. Very low. Maybe make it per hit instead of per node.

[Zorz]

Originally posted by mikeydsc:

The drop rate is 0.1% per node. Very low. Maybe make it per hit instead of per node.

ok after 1000 nodes u should have one ^^

[Lokthar]

On average, I have about 1 gem by 50 hours of gameplay.....
Fortunately, it is not very useful.

[Tasolth]

Gems were the only thing holding me back from hitting the last steam achievement. Managed to put 100 hours into the game before I lost interest. Managed to find 4 gems in that time. Need 6x2 to make the golden armor.