Is it worth it ?

[Deathwing1306]

Hey, I have never played any Strategy like this before, but this game really caught my eye because of the time period, I love old times, especially WW1, WW2 times or the very old medieval times, I was wondering about buying a strategy for a while because I basically have never played any, but I am not sure which I should try.

I wanted to ask you, is this game beginner friendly ? I have heard that Hearts of Iron is very complex and I think that because I have never played any strategy before, I would be lost...

Is this game worth to buy for current price and if so, will I be able to play it comfortably as a new strategy player ?

Thanks!

[Centurioncato]

this game showed pottential a while ago but it is more or less abandoned, i suggest you try The Great War: Western Front, its kinda suited for newcomers to the rts genre and also has a more challenging side when you get better at it. this game... was mostly conceived to be a multiplayer one like COH but ultimately failed. its not a bad game per se, but there is a ton better games out there.

[rckrtns]

well i played coh since it came out and love, this game is equally good and has some better items, i dont know and how one can say its abandoned? they updated campaign 09/22, i rather they take their time vs just adding junk content.

[themadgunman]

Well taking 2 days to restart the login server doesn't exactly show a commitment to new players now does it

[Deathwing1306]

I actually bought the game with all of the DLCs also because I looked at some videos and it SEEMED good and it's amazing. I have never played any similar game to this and I love it so far, I have completed the Polania campaign, just started the Rusviet campaign and it's good so far. It's very stressful though because it's my first RTS game, I am playing it on Easy and I am getting my ass beat up.

The thing which I don't understand is my frame rate, when I launched the game, the game was set to High automatically so I left it as it was because I thought that it would run good...

Whenever there are dozens of units, I have like 40 fps. I have Ryzen 5 5500, RX 5700 XT, 16GB RAM, installed on M.2 SSD and I am having frame rate problems in a strategy game.

[Sergoth]

Originally posted by themadgunman:

Well taking 2 days to restart the login server doesn't exactly show a commitment to new players now does it

Have some cheese with that whine

[themadgunman]

Originally posted by Sergoth:

Have some cheese with that whine

Pointing out failure isn't whining, and if you think this is a good level of customer support, you should go work for Blizzard or EA or something, they always need fanboi's who will defend bad practice

[Stall]

Originally posted by themadgunman:

Originally posted by Sergoth:

Have some cheese with that whine

Pointing out failure isn't whining, and if you think this is a good level of customer support, you should go work for Blizzard or EA or something, they always need fanboi's who will defend bad practice

Really isnt a good look from the devs...

[Da Dakka Doc]

Servers are now online and normal service has resumed.
Our apologies for the downtown. You'll forgive us for not working over the weekend, real lives and metal health come 1st.

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by The Game Doc:

Servers are now online and normal service has resumed.
Our apologies for the downtown. You'll forgive us for not working over the weekend, real lives and metal health come 1st.

I mean... I agree with you, but I definitely would not say something like "You'll forgive us for not working over the weekend, real lives and metal health come 1st.", some people pay for a game ONLY because of multiplayer and if they buy it and the game basically doesn't work and they see that the developers won't do anything about it because it's weekend, at least for me, I probably would never buy anything from them again...

To me your respond seems like this:

"Oh, you bought the game and it doesn't work ? Oof, that sucks right ? I will take a look at it after the weekend, now give me a break..."

I just feel like that as long as people pay for the game and an ISSUE like this appears suddenly, it should be fixed immediately or at least be worked on so the people who bought it, can use the service they paid for...

I might get banned from this forum, but that is how I feel about this situation, I am not attacking you or anything, I just think that the response isn't appropriate response...

[Stall]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Originally posted by The Game Doc:

Servers are now online and normal service has resumed.
Our apologies for the downtown. You'll forgive us for not working over the weekend, real lives and metal health come 1st.

I mean... I agree with you, but I definitely would not say something like "You'll forgive us for not working over the weekend, real lives and metal health come 1st.", some people pay for a game ONLY because of multiplayer and if they buy it and the game basically doesn't work and they see that the developers won't do anything about it because it's weekend, at least for me, I probably would never buy anything from them again...

To me your respond seems like this:

"Oh, you bought the game and it doesn't work ? Oof, that sucks right ? I will take a look at it after the weekend, now give me a break..."

I just feel like that as long as people pay for the game and an ISSUE like this appears suddenly, it should be fixed immediately or at least be worked on so the people who bought it, can use the service they paid for...

I might get banned from this forum, but that is how I feel about this situation, I am not attacking you or anything, I just think that the response isn't appropriate response...

They should of at least let people know it wouldnt be worked on till monday. Would of took a few minutes...

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by STALL:

They should of at least let people know it wouldnt be worked on till monday. Would of took a few minutes...

Yeah, they only made a discussion thread, not many people look into discussion, usually only when they are forced to seek help from players. In the thread they also said that they "will investigate further and let you know when the servers are back online."

EDIT: They only mentioned this "and thank you to everyone who has brought this to our attention outside of working hours.", but that doesn't tell you much lol

They didn't mention anything about waiting until the weekend ends...

Also, this really killed me: "We're happy to see so many new players", they are happy about new players, but new players aren't happy about them lol

These little things can really make new people turn away from your games, communication is the key...

[Deathwing1306]

I see now that because I was playing during the server being offline, my Polania and Rusviet Faction is on Level 1 even though I have completed the campaigns... also my achievements remain at 0 progress for those factions...

Love it :)

[Da Dakka Doc]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

Originally posted by The Game Doc:

Servers are now online and normal service has resumed.
Our apologies for the downtown. You'll forgive us for not working over the weekend, real lives and metal health come 1st.

I mean... I agree with you, but I definitely would not say something like "You'll forgive us for not working over the weekend, real lives and metal health come 1st.", some people pay for a game ONLY because of multiplayer and if they buy it and the game basically doesn't work and they see that the developers won't do anything about it because it's weekend, at least for me, I probably would never buy anything from them again...

To me your respond seems like this:

"Oh, you bought the game and it doesn't work ? Oof, that sucks right ? I will take a look at it after the weekend, now give me a break..."

I just feel like that as long as people pay for the game and an ISSUE like this appears suddenly, it should be fixed immediately or at least be worked on so the people who bought it, can use the service they paid for...

I might get banned from this forum, but that is how I feel about this situation, I am not attacking you or anything, I just think that the response isn't appropriate response...

You won't get banned for expressing critism so long as it isn't toxic and breaks the Steam forum rules. It's been nice that many other players on our other social platforms have told us not to worry about it and wait til a weekday to fix it. it's good we can have a broad specturm of views here :)
I was working the weekend letting people know about the problem and trying to alert the Dev able to tackle the problem. Unfortuanetly they weren't avaiable. "Dev" is often thrown around term, when it's a team of people with different skills and responsabilties. Server failures can't be solve by simply flicking a switch.
Still I understand your point and frustration. We learn for the future. Thankfully server failures are rare.

[Deathwing1306]

Originally posted by The Game Doc:

You won't get banned for expressing critism so long as it isn't toxic and breaks the Steam forum rules. It's been nice that many other players on our other social platforms have told us not to worry about it and wait til a weekday to fix it. it's good we can have a broad specturm of views here :)
I was working the weekend letting people know about the problem and trying to alert the Dev able to tackle the problem. Unfortuanetly they weren't avaiable. "Dev" is often thrown around term, when it's a team of people with different skills and responsabilties. Server failures can't be solve by simply flicking a switch.
Still I understand your point and frustration. We learn for the future. Thankfully server failures are rare.

I was especially talking about the last sentence, to me it just seemed like an excuse, I know that being a dev is extremely stressful and also mentally hard and many people see them as people who only sit in front of a pc and type codes... It's very hard job, I have an IT school and I probably wouldn't be able to do that kind of job, but...

It just seemed unfair to me because I am guessing that huge amount of new players appeared during the sale which is still active, some of them bought the game for the multiplayer and coop part and they weren't able to play the game which they paid for basically...

Under your steam thread I saw some people talking about refunds also so I guess I am not the only one who see it like this...

I personally don't really care about the multiplayer part, I only bought the game for the singleplayer part, I am playing on Easy and I am getting my ass beat sometimes so playing a multiplayer against someone who is experienced with RTS games, I would vanish very fast from the map...

The only thing which I am really sad about is that my Polania and Rusviet factions didn't give me any rewards because apparently, if you play campaign in offline mode, you won't get anything for some reason.

[Da Dakka Doc]

Originally posted by Deathwing1306:

I was especially....

I totally understand your frustration and yeah it's sad that people may have been turned away or refunded due to the sale. All I can do is let them know the servers are back and everything is good again. But looking at the numbers many also stayed.

If servers should go offline again, I will do my best ot make it clear that campaign progession etc will be lost while servers are down.