Nebulas only represented by outline?

[Broms]

Hi everyone,

I just picked up the game on GOG and was wondering if anyone else is having trouble reading the navmap for Nebula? In game I can only see the outline of the nebula and there is no visual difference between the regular ones and the ones that hurt your ship, similarly asteroid fields are hard to see.

At first I thought it was my navmap so I bought one that has a green color but the outlines just changed color. When I look at YouTube videos and the pictures on the steam store it shows the nebula have a deep light blue coloring, but when I play the nebula are as black as space and only the outline is visible.. Does anyone else have this issue? Am I doing something wrong?

Specs:
Ryzen 5 1600x
GeForce 1080th
32GB Ram
Installed on an SSD.

Is it possible there are some settings in the NVIDIA control panel that I should tweak? I can post a screenshot later today after work and provide a dxdiag dump if the devs think it will help. I hope I can fix this issue because I really like the modempunk theme but this is making me have to avoid all nebula which is not the best way to play.

Thanks!

[KWAiRT]

You need to find a Dalpozzo Helm Control and I think there is another that has full color mode.

[Stroller]

There are several different models. The starter ship has, if it is brand new, a simple navigation computer that shows all in blue as you describe it. Another model shows everything only in green. But there are also a lot of other navigation computers that show everything in full color. The pictures you saw in the shop refer to the versions which have full color. They are expensive and you have to buy them first. That's the way it's meant to be and it presents the player with additional challenges. If you don't know what type of fog it is, flying in is a very big risk. But asteroid fields are better recognizable with the blue / green scanners.

[Fortrfire]

You'll have to buy a Navcom with Full Color if you want to see which nebulae are dangerous.

[Ponicus]

I found a Full Color navcom for the first time the other day for about 3.5k so it's not that expensive. Upgrading the color makes a huge difference imo.

[bootler]

If you find a full color for a decent price, you can sell the one you currently have which you have to do anyways to replace it, and use that money to buy the new full color one. That's what I did within the first hour of playing.

[ImHelping]

Grabbed from some of the scenarios for speed of examples.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1672426440

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1672432340

("Green" is about as bad as the "Blue")

So, yeah. You are not the first to wonder this during this game's development, and you will be far from the last now that it has been launched.

Particularly With how much the tutorials and info help menu talk up "Hide in nebulas, like, ALL the time!" It feels like a hazing prank to then give players sensors incapable of telling the difference between Regular and Charged nebula.

If you prefer to start with a proper UI. Next time you start a new game, consider setting your extra cash to "More" which is +5,000.

Sell your pod's nav computer. THEN sell your pod. Then sell your Ceres ship's nav computer while buying back the full color nav computer.

A quick rundown from doing this in a fresh game two seconds ago:
Sell Pod's "CNM/1" nav computer : +1,960
Trade in ship.
Sell Ceres "Blue" nav comp: +1,294
= + 3,254 temporary priofit.
Buy back CNM/1 "Boost": "Full color"

Now, this is why I suggest "More" for +5,000 ("Slightly" falls far short at +2,000. Heaps more is overkill at +10,000)that

Across multiple starts just now, selling off your pod Navcom and ceres nav come gave you the same cash.

But the end result varies. First time it spat out a "defense" variant CNM/1 that cost 5,171, yikes.
Second time it spat out a "Brand new" worth 4,449. Etc.

If you are REALLY Lucky, some CNM/2 may be in the starter shop, which are generally cheaper (3.5-4k range) but also have a much higher drain according to the shop screen. 0.70, instead of 0.40.

Regardless. A Normal start can't afford to do this. And "Slightly more" start is still spending most of their cash on this (Testing with slightly I had under 700 credits the first time, 1,406 the second, etc).

Some may find it a nice tongue in cheek "gritty sci-fi *wink*" nod to start off with a deliberately incapable of even following the tutorial tips UI. So there is some fun to be had putting up with it until you save for it naturally. But, don't let anyone think less of you if you decide to opt for "Viable UI" at the starting line either.

[David]

You can get full colour on normal start, just take out some loans.

[ImHelping]

Originally posted by Explorer:

You can get full colour on normal start, just take out some loans.

Wow. That is amazingly disingenuous.

"You can totally start with it!... by punishing yourself with debt. It still counts because-"

Now, if people were talking something worth that kind of claim like say, a jump drive? maybe. Starting with such a thing would be a massive shift in the gameplay curve.

But treating such a thing as comparable to "The Tutorial and help files are invalidated by the UI" stock Nav Computers would be deliberately misleading people rather than any desire to help the newbies.

[David]

No, disingenuous is implying that 2% interest (20c) on a loan you don't even have to pay back is "punishing yourself", and that sticking with a blue navcom isn't.

The only thing amazing is the amount of hostility to a simple response.

[Harris Tweed]

That escalated quickly.

[Broms]

Thanks guys you've been a big help. I was getting frustrated and it is not often in life you get something frustrated fixed so simply.