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Jadedragon Feb 29, 2024 @ 4:42pm
2 players required for a solo experience?
so i can not learn at my own pace for the pvp areas in customs with bots, i have to play with a friend in order to not screw my matchmaking too fast?

I have to fully trust the matchmaking of this low playercount game to not match me with veteran lobbys too fast.. sure..

I dont understand how you can introduce bots in customs and make it so i have to invite at least 1 more human player, doesnt make a single bit of sense to me. Just will result in me staying away from the game until my friend finds time to play IF he wants to play this game. If he doesnt like the game that means im locked out of it aswell. nice, well done.
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carlos Feb 29, 2024 @ 7:28pm 
their response to this was addressed on their discord:
"Unfortunately, we do have to keep the 2-player requirement. This is a short-term protection for us in terms of server costs"
Jadedragon Feb 29, 2024 @ 7:45pm 
Originally posted by Ari:
their response to this was addressed on their discord:
"Unfortunately, we do have to keep the 2-player requirement. This is a short-term protection for us in terms of server costs"
server costs?? and how do they expect to increase their income when new players keep being drove away by the fiew veterans still playing this game daylie? those bots wont prepare them at all.
Realmjumper4099 Mar 1, 2024 @ 2:51am 
This probably helps prevent people from creating bot accounts and gaining levels without doing anything.
Jadedragon Mar 1, 2024 @ 5:52am 
Originally posted by Realmjumper4099:
This probably helps prevent people from creating bot accounts and gaining levels without doing anything.
that doesnt make any sense, if they would fear so much of this, the least they would do is intorduce bots in the first place.

Their official stance seems to be more due to Server cost/capacity than anything else. Which kinda does make sense and i understand where they are coming from, still i think the more they wait with full bot lobbys the more it will hurt them long term.
Yoshiro  [developer] Mar 1, 2024 @ 5:15pm 
With the introduction of AI agents as part of Operation Overhaul Phase 1, we are looking for your feedback on how you would like to see them evolve.

Currently they are limited to the new player experience as well as private matches (which require 2 players to start) and come in two varieties, a more cautious agent, and one that looks for other agents by their actions and engages them.

As part of our planned next steps around them involve making them available as part of a solo/offline mode as they continue to improve, which will be made available to our PC Agents as part of an experimental option in a future major update (Due to development uncertainties, this may NOT be the NEXT major update).

The other major component of this will be continuing to improve their ability to understand the game loop and agent mechanics as well as looking to make them available at a set of different difficulty levels. Once again, there is not currently a firm timetable on when these improvements will become available.

So please let us know below any further thoughts or feedback you have with the AI Agents!
Last edited by Yoshiro; Mar 1, 2024 @ 5:15pm
Jadedragon Mar 1, 2024 @ 6:13pm 
Originally posted by Yoshiro:

As part of our planned next steps around them involve making them available as part of a solo/offline mode as they continue to improve, which will be made available to our PC Agents as part of an experimental option in a future major update (Due to development uncertainties, this may NOT be the NEXT major update).

:steamthumbsup: thats VERY nice to hear, thanks very much for the response! im glad it is on planning it doesnt matter when it arrives, knowing it will be possible in the future is all i wanted really.
Miha-Sith Mar 1, 2024 @ 11:22pm 
Originally posted by Yoshiro:
With the introduction of AI agents as part of Operation Overhaul Phase 1, we are looking for your feedback on how you would like to see them evolve...
That's good! I gonna buy it, when bots/offline mode will be available!:steamthumbsup:
Bankai9212 Mar 2, 2024 @ 5:32am 
Originally posted by Miha-Sith:
Originally posted by Yoshiro:
With the introduction of AI agents as part of Operation Overhaul Phase 1, we are looking for your feedback on how you would like to see them evolve...
That's good! I gonna buy it, when bots/offline mode will be available!:steamthumbsup:
It’s not an offline mode.
Jadedragon Mar 2, 2024 @ 3:25pm 
Originally posted by Bankai9212:
Originally posted by Miha-Sith:
That's good! I gonna buy it, when bots/offline mode will be available!:steamthumbsup:
It’s not an offline mode.
it dont have to be an offline mode, just being able to play solo with bots is a good start while no requirment for another human player.
Bankai9212 Mar 2, 2024 @ 6:33pm 
Originally posted by Jadedragon:
Originally posted by Bankai9212:
It’s not an offline mode.
it dont have to be an offline mode, just being able to play solo with bots is a good start while no requirment for another human player.
Not really the point of my response, but unless the ai is on the level of s decent player there isn't much a new player will get overall.
Jadedragon Mar 3, 2024 @ 1:37am 
Originally posted by Bankai9212:
Not really the point of my response, but unless the ai is on the level of s decent player there isn't much a new player will get overall.

Speak for yourself. Many people look forward to bots for singleplayers.
Bankai9212 Mar 3, 2024 @ 5:17am 
This game isn’t single player it’s mp focused. Compared to other games with really good ai bots that can prep a player can’t see that working here.
Jadedragon Mar 3, 2024 @ 8:41am 
Originally posted by Bankai9212:
This game isn’t single player it’s mp focused. Compared to other games with really good ai bots that can prep a player can’t see that working here.
Ok, let me try it make VERY simple for you.. Just for you.

Many people, me included, want to be able to play alone, with bots, without other human beings, in this game.. Get it? And they are working on it in the future, wheter you personally as a single person think this is good or bad, wont change that at all.

So dont just act as if you speak for anyone, you are not.
Last edited by Jadedragon; Mar 3, 2024 @ 8:41am
Bankai9212 Mar 3, 2024 @ 9:46am 
I never said I did, All i'm saying is that it won't prepare players to face actual players.
Jadedragon Mar 3, 2024 @ 1:04pm 
Originally posted by Bankai9212:
there isn't much a new player will get overall.

You did
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