Game is a camping Simulator.

[Globii]

Soooo ... I always went for the Trophy everytime I could, but then most of the Time instantly died to a Guy that was camping there waiting for someone to pick it.

For the last 3 Rounds I thought -> NOPE not this Time.
So I waited... and waited... and waited for someone to actually go into the Vaultroom to grab it, guess what, no one did.

So I went AFK, Toilet, grabbed myself a Coffee (atleast 10 minutes afk) came back -> Still no one grabbed it. Thought they where all dead and went for it, went out the Door and got clapped by 3 Guys waiting there.

This Game is kind of "nice" (a bit boring to be honest, quite repetitive), but it defenitelly needs something against Campers, or atleast add a Timer if after a certain amount of Time no one grabbed it, the Game ends, or everyone gets uncovered or whatever.

The insane Camping kinda ruins it.

[roh]

I've had no issue winning when grabbing the case. Campers can be annoying, but you can still win the fight vs them. Dont go into the room with no intel, and you can always scan for people waiting outside.

[Jonnie]

This is a skill issue. Play as a team. -signed a player with 50+% win rate

[Globii]

Listen, lads ... Call it skill issue and brag about how good you guys are all you want I dont mind.

All im saying is, that the Game COULD need something that makes taking the Case more rewarding. That would automatically negate the Campers.
Atleast thats what im thinking, could be wrong.

[roh]

Originally posted by Globii:

Listen, lads ... Call it skill issue and brag about how good you guys are all you want I dont mind.

All im saying is, that the Game COULD need something that makes taking the Case more rewarding. That would automatically negate the Campers.
Atleast thats what im thinking, could be wrong.

Now, I only play solos so I don't have a clue if this is a teams issue, I apologize if you've stated that somewhere, I'm tired and replying inbetween games.

My advice is to try to be fast before the vault opens and get as many cards as you can. When the vault opens I start running all the way inside and try to get the case asap, with intel ready to scan for anyone that got inside fast too, then I pick fights on the way out. Playing this way I've never had to deal with campers.

The great perk of picking up the case is that you get wallhacks if you can manage your intel on the way out, and all you have to do is play around the ping meter giving away your location (the spyglass is a great gadget for picking up intel while running)

[Killian]

Originally posted by Globii:

Listen, lads ... Call it skill issue and brag about how good you guys are all you want I dont mind.

All im saying is, that the Game COULD need something that makes taking the Case more rewarding. That would automatically negate the Campers.
Atleast thats what im thinking, could be wrong.

I punch garbage cans, and plants. But yes if multiple people are camping it turns into third party gun fight, easier just to push then wait out these scenarios.

[Globii]

Originally posted by roh:

Originally posted by Globii:

Listen, lads ... Call it skill issue and brag about how good you guys are all you want I dont mind.

All im saying is, that the Game COULD need something that makes taking the Case more rewarding. That would automatically negate the Campers.
Atleast thats what im thinking, could be wrong.

Now, I only play solos so I don't have a clue if this is a teams issue, I apologize if you've stated that somewhere, I'm tired and replying inbetween games.

My advice is to try to be fast before the vault opens and get as many cards as you can. When the vault opens I start running all the way inside and try to get the case asap, with intel ready to scan for anyone that got inside fast too, then I pick fights on the way out. Playing this way I've never had to deal with campers.

The great perk of picking up the case is that you get wallhacks if you can manage your intel on the way out, and all you have to do is play around the ping meter giving away your location (the spyglass is a great gadget for picking up intel while running)

Sorry if it sounded like I meant you with the whole "bragging" Stuff. Your answers were both extremely nice and quite Helpful!
Thanks for that.

Originally posted by Killian:

Originally posted by Globii:

Listen, lads ... Call it skill issue and brag about how good you guys are all you want I dont mind.

All im saying is, that the Game COULD need something that makes taking the Case more rewarding. That would automatically negate the Campers.
Atleast thats what im thinking, could be wrong.

I punch garbage cans, and plants. But yes if multiple people are camping it turns into third party gun fight, easier just to push then wait out these scenarios.

Yeah true, maybe I just need to push harder to kind of catch them off guard.

[JayTac]

There's nothing wrong with camping in this type of game. Check the description: "...no trick is too dirty..." Being stealthy and sneaky is just part of the game.

[kemist]

Don't know what you're on about, most matches the briefcase is rushed and grabbed by someone within a few minutes. Being able to see everyone's location with the briefcase is plenty of incentive to go for it.

[Globii]

Originally posted by kemist:

Don't know what you're on about, most matches the briefcase is rushed and grabbed by someone within a few minutes. Being able to see everyone's location with the briefcase is plenty of incentive to go for it.

I guess I was just unlucky then. All my Matches where like that where no one would go for the Briefcase.

[Dement]

You're playing in solo ? because the game is quite different in 3v3v3 mode. IMO the game is unbalanced in solo and definitely encourage camping and "passive" gameplay. There's absolutely no reward to play objective first, you get noticed immediately and you're immediately left in a 1v1 pvp situation where you're at disavantage vs your opponent. It's not the case with a team when you have backup hiding around.

[Globii]

Originally posted by Dement:

You're playing in solo ? because the game is quite different in 3v3v3 mode. IMO the game is unbalanced in solo and definitely encourage camping and "passive" gameplay. There's absolutely no reward to play objective first, you get noticed immediately and you're immediately left in a 1v1 pvp situation where you're at disavantage vs your opponent. It's not the case with a team when you have backup hiding around.

Yea, only playing Solo.

[PrinceCharming]

When grabbing the case I always do a quick scan to see where rivals are, there's 3 exits out of every vault and majority of the time if they are camping, take one of the other 2 exits, they would have to go through the vault which almost no one does OR they run back to the main lobby to try and cut you off, giving you enough time to wait and pick your fights.

I don't know how much you know about this game but most people forget about the ping that the briefcase holder lets off.

Look down at the briefcase logo, the circle around it fills up slowly when walking and very fast when running, if you stay in a room and wait till it pings, start walking out a little after, I've done this many times and completely walked past people, it's very important to switch disguise to a guard because any Scientist leaving the area is suspicious.

You can also do fake-outs, I once went into 1 of the exits, ran till my ping went off then walked all the way back and they had completely ran past me and were deep into the building as I was near the exit of the building, then I booked it to the extraction (used spy-glass to call the extraction early from a distance).

There are many ways to trick your rivals, rushing in and rushing out quickly can work but that opens you up to just being ambushed on the spot and worst case 3rd partied if you win the first fight.

[çelorriez]

I think the combat is too deciding for what I was expecting from this game. It's a battle royale where everyone is the TF2 Spy and not a spy game. The first match I played, after I died and realized you couldn't respawn I immediately knew where the game was heading, and it was not a good direction. I think without radical solutions like infinite respawn, nerfing all guns by 50%, or just erasing every character's guns and combat abilities and making them perform the same (which they obviously won't do since it would be a waste of the development put there), it's going to become ridiculous very quickly.
Top level players completely ignoring the spying side and just jumping around rushing the upgrades, if you attack them, YOU are at a disadvantage since they take less damage from your first shot (very bad idea imo, should be double or triple damage), then they just destroy you with one or two headshots while jumping around like we're playing TF2.

[Dement]

Originally posted by Globii:

Originally posted by Dement:

You're playing in solo ? because the game is quite different in 3v3v3 mode. IMO the game is unbalanced in solo and definitely encourage camping and "passive" gameplay. There's absolutely no reward to play objective first, you get noticed immediately and you're immediately left in a 1v1 pvp situation where you're at disavantage vs your opponent. It's not the case with a team when you have backup hiding around.

Yea, only playing Solo.

Try the team mode then, it's the actual real "Deceive inc" experience. Solo can be fun but like I said the gameplay is not balanced around it, it's good if you want to learn the basic, the maps and your gadget but that's it.

[Kombucho]

Originally posted by Jonnie:

This is a skill issue. Play as a team. -signed a player with 50+% win rate

team game mode requires no skill, ofcourse you can call out issues that you dont run into from your high horse

Originally posted by Dement:

Try the team mode then, it's the actual real "Deceive inc" experience

if you mean teams going guns blazing shooting everyone, you are right