So many heroes, so few levels.

[Nile]

Origins has 15 levels and 16 heroes(7 more to come). Shouldn't we just get more levels instead of this horde of heroes?

I finished this new kingdom rush very quickly and I'm a bit disappointed by the lack of content. I'm not sure why it's so difficult to make these games and I've been playing them since the very first back in 2011.. 3 games in 7 years. It's not quite duke nukem or half-life, but I'm wondering if we're not taken as somewhat of the "watering hole" here on steam, paying for unfinished games while the other titles are free as flash games.

I really like TDs and KR stands out as one of the best.

A dev kit to make levels while we wait could be fun.

Your thoughts?

[Matt]

I don't think the number of games is an issue, I wouldnt want to see them being churned out without any effort put in, because as you say - Kingdom Rush is one of the best Tower Defense games.

I do however think its a problem that there are so few levels. I was expecting new ones to become available when I beat the final mission, as there are large chunks of the map not utilised at all (whats with those gemstone mines in the north?). New missions should be the easiest thing to make - just give us a path, some tower slots, and throw some already established enemy types at us.

Basically, Im disappointed that for a £12 price tag I didnt get 12 hours of gameplay and there's barely more than 12 missions.

[Hegemon]

So you are including all the heroes still to come, but not all the levels?

[iamteone]

There will be elite stages in the coming months. Three campaigns, Hulking Rage, Bittering Rancor and Forgotten treasures. Patience!

[Jacob Sartorious]

Originally posted by iamteone:

There will be elite stages in the coming months. Three campaigns, Hulking Rage, Bittering Rancor and Forgotten treasures. Patience!

Heroes to come with those dlc's as well!

[Antiga]

OP has a point, but it's because the devs are rehashing their content. Actual "new" content is a lot more time consuming. Hence all those heroes that already existed simply being thrown in this. You'll notice stats for both towers and enemies are pretty identical as well.
All in all, what we get right now is mostly just graphical changes with pretty disappointing map design for most levels. Still the same old mechanics, the same "surprises", making it all feel a bit worse than previous games. As nothing feels new or improved upon, it just feels like playing an expansion, at best. One that isn't as fun as the original.

Feels like the milking of the series has officially begun.

Expect a "multiplayer" version in the future. It'll be F2P obviously. Where you build your town between missions. With 3 day wait timers on upgrading a building. A building that unlocks archer upgrades from lvl 3 > specialization. Which must first be researched once you place the building. Research'll cost premium currency or some other hard to come by resource obtained super slowly through gameplay. Research will take forever to complete, with options to finish it instantly, for even more premium currency. Heroes must be bought for ~10-20 bucks each. You'll have cheaty boosts available in a mission, for premium currency ofcourse. Some missions are designed to be a paywall, requiring you to spend money or be stuck grinding for weeks. Meanwhile all the above will still apply - identical stats, heroes, enemy types, map design which is obviously getting worse, but nothing new or innovative beyond all the new freemium ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

Mark my words.

[Hegemon]

You have a point there Antiga, but note that this is what the community wants. The mechanics are good and people enjoy them, graphics are great, story is funny if ignorable, upgrading towers and your hero is addictive. Those devs did try sth new, they released Iron Marines (this game is supposed to come to Steam as well), maybe you want to try that. Origins is for those who just wanted more Kingdom Rush.

[Noelll]

Hi, there will be more stages with the upcoming expansions.

[Yiasmat]

From a game designer and developer point of view:
Adding levels would be fairly straight forward as long as they only include already seen enemies without anything new. Now, you'd still have to create the map, code menus, waypoints etc for the map itself and the overall game and most importantly you'd have to balance it. But overall, i think most people would appreaciate one more level rather than one more hero.
However, you have to understand that: heroes is where they get their money from. As mentioned the game is free (or sometimes close to) but the heroes are not.
The designer has to look at what he wants to create and find a balance in creating actual content or creating something that will make money.

In any case: i think they made a mistake in leaving the map as it is right now, having future content visible but not accessable. Even if that content will be free in the future, it gives an impression that there will be something after completing the campain and can only be met with disappointment once those expectations do not get met.

Edit: Adding new levels would be straight forward yes, but this series has made a point of frequently introducing new things. Be it new towers, new enemies, new bosses, paths opening up in a stage, a new gimmick, new ways the enemies can move etc etc. You will rarely find a level that is just a reskin of something that already exists. So it is unlickely that such a developer would spam content for the sake of having more levels.

[Osiris]

Think about it like this: If there were fewer heroes, would you still think there are not enough levels? It's only a problem because we're spoilt for choice when it comes to heroes.

Originally posted by Antiga:

[They will add mobile game cash milking mechanics]

They've done the exact opposite with all three of the games currently on Steam.