Whole pile of Obsidian and metal ore gone!

[Twiggs]

This is the kinda crap that made me quit this game previously! I have a whole pile of obsidian and metal ore waiting on creating a box to put stuff in and i load in and its all gone. yesterday it was an obsidian spear that just dissapeared from my backpack. Ive done the steps in the forum to fix so called bugs. its not my system its the game. A little irritated. When you put hours into something it make it hard to not get irritated when ♥♥♥♥ just goes missing. rant over i guess.

[Ataxio]

Never had something vanish from my person but I've seen others state its happened, no idea why. But if you just dumped a pile of ore on the ground the game likely cleaned it up. The devs posted and stickied what items will vanish and what will not.

The game does not communicate to the player in an intuitive way how these things work, the best advise is to simply save frequently and in different slots.

[nextgengranny]

My bone knife disappeared from my backpack; I just discovered the loss when hunting & attempting to harvest. Since I keep it in the "knife slot", it's hard to see how it could've been user error.

I've never had this happen before, in many hours of (single player only) play. It may be that a new bug was introduced w/ the recent update.

[ptarn]

The same happened to a whole pile of bones I had laying around. Weird thing is that before the Animal Husbandry update those bones stayed there just fine for weeks on end; after the update the whole pile was just gone. I haven't had anything disappear from my backpack, but I seriously doubt this is user error, unless I suddenly blacked out and decided to secretly delete my stash of bones just for the heck of it.

[Ataxio]

I've had piles of things persist on the ground for quite some time. The games algorithem for when dropped items are cleaned probably did not get triggered until a recent action. Afaik bones are not flagged to be spared from being cleaned. Put stuff like that in a box to keep them.

[DivineEvil]

Generally you'd want to have the box before you get to collect piles of stuff. It seems that there's no actual timer for despawning, but rather that the game would despawn long-forgotten stuff once there's too many items lying around.

Never had any equipment dissappear from me either. I don't mean to insult, but at this point I have to assume you have just threw the obsidian spear to pick some other tool (torch, pickaxe, fishing pole), and it have despawned, or even more likely degraded to 0 from the rainfall. Also, spears can be thrown and has to picked back up.

[nextgengranny]

Originally posted by DivineEvil:

Generally you'd want to have the box before you get to collect piles of stuff. It seems that there's no actual timer for despawning, but rather that the game would despawn long-forgotten stuff once there's too many items lying around.

Never had any equipment dissappear from me either. I don't mean to insult, but at this point I have to assume you have just threw the obsidian spear to pick some other tool (torch, pickaxe, fishing pole), and it have despawned, or even more likely degraded to 0 from the rainfall. Also, spears can be thrown and has to picked back up.

Well, I definitely didn't throw my knife, so I wouldn't make that assumption.

[Twiggs]

Obsidian and metal was not on the list on the list of items that would despawn and it wouldn't have been despawned by a timer bc I just got all of it the day before. Shouldnt be at least.

[supergtp]

Can confirm that after the update my Obsidian pile in my original base disappeared. I have an older save where it is there and if I sleep it will be gone in the morning. That save is too old to use but did confirm.

I thought I was crazy the first time a huge pile of big stones disappeared. I am OK with sticks, stones, bones etc de-spawning but annoyed at obsidian and metal.

[Zorn]

lost the machete and the iron axe that way

[Ataxio]

Originally posted by svpergtp:

Can confirm that after the update my Obsidian pile in my original base disappeared. I have an older save where it is there and if I sleep it will be gone in the morning. That save is too old to use but did confirm.

I thought I was crazy the first time a huge pile of big stones disappeared. I am OK with sticks, stones, bones etc de-spawning but annoyed at obsidian and metal.

Are these items on the ground or in a box?

[ptarn]

Call me crazy but I'd rather not have the game arbitrarily decide for me to 'clean up' stuff that's been there through a couple of saves. Sure, I can understand the devs wanting to keep the game 'decluttered' after you haven't been to a spot where you did some heavy deforesting and/or killing of animals and/or natives, but around my base I should be the one to decide whether something's 'trash' or not. I mean, I resorted to piling up bones since, for some reason, there's no 'bone rack' in the game, even though those things can pile up FAST. And they take up way too much space in my boxes (two per 'pile', come on) for me to even consider just making boxes to store bones; my entire house would be filled to the brim with nothing but bone boxes.

And, to be fair, the game somehow doesn't mind the endless small and regular sticks just piling up around my base - they don't disappear unless I manually gather them and destroy them - or the fact that I'm always keeping at least one big pot outside on the ground for some extra fresh water (don't have to, 'cause I have a water filter, but still, old habits die hard). So, it really feels very arbitrary to say the least.

And to assume that someone accidentally threw something away is a bit presumptuous, don't y'all think?

[nextgengranny]

Originally posted by ptarn:

And to assume that someone accidentally threw something away is a bit presumptuous, don't y'all think?

Some folks simply won't accept that something happened unless it happened to them.

[mahashma]

can confirm I've had iron ore and molten metal laying on the ground and it despawned within a few days. the unamusement was real.

[Arran]

Never happened to me that something despawns from inventory. But game has bug that after loading saved game it automatically shuffles all items in backpack. If you saved with almost all space filled, after shuffling items not all fits and left-overs are thrown away from backpack.
After noticing I lost some items I reloaded last save and noticed those items landing on shelter roof.

[Ataxio]

Originally posted by ptarn:

Call me crazy but I'd rather not have the game arbitrarily decide for me to 'clean up' stuff that's been there through a couple of saves. Sure, I can understand the devs wanting to keep the game 'decluttered' after you haven't been to a spot where you did some heavy deforesting and/or killing of animals and/or natives, but around my base I should be the one to decide whether something's 'trash' or not. I mean, I resorted to piling up bones since, for some reason, there's no 'bone rack' in the game, even though those things can pile up FAST. And they take up way too much space in my boxes (two per 'pile', come on) for me to even consider just making boxes to store bones; my entire house would be filled to the brim with nothing but bone boxes.

And, to be fair, the game somehow doesn't mind the endless small and regular sticks just piling up around my base - they don't disappear unless I manually gather them and destroy them - or the fact that I'm always keeping at least one big pot outside on the ground for some extra fresh water (don't have to, 'cause I have a water filter, but still, old habits die hard). So, it really feels very arbitrary to say the least.

And to assume that someone accidentally threw something away is a bit presumptuous, don't y'all think?

The reason garbage collection is happening is for engine performance reasons, not arbitrary aesthetic reasons set by the devs. Without it, users would wind up in situations where thousands of objects are being rendered and that's going to cause problems. Each dropped item has physics.