Green Hell

Green Hell

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Wolfenkalt Apr 4, 2019 @ 11:59am
Smelting iron is great, but making the tools from molds?
Using mud molds to cast iron blades. Theres a few things wrong with that. First, I don't think a mud forge in the jungle is getting the iron hot enough to actually liquefy iron and cast it. Second, if you were able to cast an item, cast iron is horribly brittle. The mud forge is great for smelting iron ore, the process in the game is pretty spot on, but you have to pound the bloom out after the smelt to get anything usable. Not sure if the devs wish to take the time to implement the full process of smelt, beat out the bloom, then heat the small iron lump left over into shape. Now copper, that you could cast into tools and weapons.
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Data-7 Apr 4, 2019 @ 12:54pm 
Originally posted by rhomadurik:
Using mud molds to cast iron blades. Theres a few things wrong with that. First, I don't think a mud forge in the jungle is getting the iron hot enough to actually liquefy iron and cast it. Second, if you were able to cast an item, cast iron is horribly brittle. The mud forge is great for smelting iron ore, the process in the game is pretty spot on, but you have to pound the bloom out after the smelt to get anything usable. Not sure if the devs wish to take the time to implement the full process of smelt, beat out the bloom, then heat the small iron lump left over into shape. Now copper, that you could cast into tools and weapons.
there's nothing realistic in this game, the dev can choose two way, the survial simulator or an other crafthing kids game, the choose the second one.
Humpenstilzchen Apr 5, 2019 @ 6:14am 
Originally posted by Data-7:
Originally posted by rhomadurik:
Using mud molds to cast iron blades. Theres a few things wrong with that. First, I don't think a mud forge in the jungle is getting the iron hot enough to actually liquefy iron and cast it. Second, if you were able to cast an item, cast iron is horribly brittle. The mud forge is great for smelting iron ore, the process in the game is pretty spot on, but you have to pound the bloom out after the smelt to get anything usable. Not sure if the devs wish to take the time to implement the full process of smelt, beat out the bloom, then heat the small iron lump left over into shape. Now copper, that you could cast into tools and weapons.
there's nothing realistic in this game
Jep I agree 100%.
Ever seen someone survive a rattlesnake bite in the jungle with out an immediate antidote?
Also we now need to wash ourselves with water before eating to prevent becoming infected with parasites.
Do the devs seriously think that the water is clean and free from parasites without boiling it?
No moskitos...in a jungle..
Hunger drain like a tyrannosaur..
And animals that come so close that you can touch them.
Traps filling within minutes..
I could go on and on..

It´s a nice game, but there is no realism here.
Last edited by Humpenstilzchen; Apr 5, 2019 @ 6:15am
Phoraex Apr 5, 2019 @ 6:55am 
Originally posted by Wolfsblut:
Originally posted by Data-7:
there's nothing realistic in this game
Jep I agree 100%.
Ever seen someone survive a rattlesnake bite in the jungle with out an immediate antidote?
Also we now need to wash ourselves with water before eating to prevent becoming infected with parasites.
Do the devs seriously think that the water is clean and free from parasites without boiling it?
No moskitos...in a jungle..
Hunger drain like a tyrannosaur..
And animals that come so close that you can touch them.
Traps filling within minutes..
I could go on and on..

It´s a nice game, but there is no realism here.

No Moskitos? Oh It's Early Access. (Also I think there are..)
It's not realistic? Tell me a survival open world game that is more realistic than that.
Yes, yes! Go on! Its EARLY ACCESS!
Also you said that we need to wash our hands before eating to prevent becoming infected. So? This is realistic. What do you want?
Last edited by Phoraex; Apr 5, 2019 @ 6:56am
Phoraex Apr 5, 2019 @ 6:58am 
Originally posted by Data-7:
Originally posted by rhomadurik:
Using mud molds to cast iron blades. Theres a few things wrong with that. First, I don't think a mud forge in the jungle is getting the iron hot enough to actually liquefy iron and cast it. Second, if you were able to cast an item, cast iron is horribly brittle. The mud forge is great for smelting iron ore, the process in the game is pretty spot on, but you have to pound the bloom out after the smelt to get anything usable. Not sure if the devs wish to take the time to implement the full process of smelt, beat out the bloom, then heat the small iron lump left over into shape. Now copper, that you could cast into tools and weapons.
there's nothing realistic in this game, the dev can choose two way, the survial simulator or an other crafthing kids game, the choose the second one.
''There is nothing realistic in this game'' :) OFcourse. Move on .
Werric Apr 5, 2019 @ 7:41am 
If you can't drink the water without getting parasites so how come you can get your hands clean enough to avoid parasites when using the exact same water?
MV-Play Apr 5, 2019 @ 8:33am 
Originally posted by up100:
If you can't drink the water without getting parasites so how come you can get your hands clean enough to avoid parasites when using the exact same water?

Good point.
Phoraex Apr 5, 2019 @ 10:39am 
Originally posted by up100:
If you can't drink the water without getting parasites so how come you can get your hands clean enough to avoid parasites when using the exact same water?
I can't say anything.. You are RIGHT!
ждун Apr 6, 2019 @ 4:21am 
Originally posted by Wolfsblut:
Jep I agree 100%.
Ever seen someone survive a rattlesnake bite in the jungle with out an immediate antidote?
Also we now need to wash ourselves with water before eating to prevent becoming infected with parasites.
Do the devs seriously think that the water is clean and free from parasites without boiling it?
No moskitos...in a jungle..
Hunger drain like a tyrannosaur..
And animals that come so close that you can touch them.
Traps filling within minutes..
I could go on and on..

It´s a nice game, but there is no realism here.

A man can survive 60 days without any food...
And he can walk more than a half mile before the day has passed.
It can take entire day to fell a tree with a stone axe.

yea I agree too. It's not about realism.
Last edited by ждун; Apr 6, 2019 @ 4:41am
Eagle Apr 11, 2019 @ 4:01pm 
Originally posted by ждун:
Originally posted by Wolfsblut:
Jep I agree 100%.
Ever seen someone survive a rattlesnake bite in the jungle with out an immediate antidote?
Also we now need to wash ourselves with water before eating to prevent becoming infected with parasites.
Do the devs seriously think that the water is clean and free from parasites without boiling it?
No moskitos...in a jungle..
Hunger drain like a tyrannosaur..
And animals that come so close that you can touch them.
Traps filling within minutes..
I could go on and on..

It´s a nice game, but there is no realism here.

A man can survive 60 days without any food...
And he can walk more than a half mile before the day has passed.
It can take entire day to fell a tree with a stone axe.

yea I agree too. It's not about realism.


Ok BS it does NOT TAKE A DAY TO FELL A TREE... in Green Hell with a Stone Axe.
I dont think you even own this game saying that.

6 hits with Axes at max In a new game about 10 hits.
60 days without eating in this game?? BS I call you on that too. Where are you getting this?
Your health begins to deplete if you dont eat you die Im fairly certain of that.

I havent tried only drinking to test that but Im pretty sure you wont get to 60 days.

Do you even know how long 60 days in Green hell is?

Let me give you an idea. This is a rough estimate. When I had about 120 hours of game time
I started a new game with the mud update I now have Over 160 hours in the game and I am day 52 of my new save since the MUD update. I think you are trying to make people think the game sucks who havent bought it yet.

It does NOT take a full day to walk half a mile in the game...

The Rattlesnake Bite thing I agree with you on and ive made a suggestion to make it more real. In the wishlist. I have suggested Mosquitos in the game to the Devs. As well as bot flys.
Hunger Drain is slower in both Welcome to the Jungle and Walk in the Park modes Green hell is faster and completely sustainable if it werent people would be on over day 300 for some.
In real life you can sneak up pretty close to animals especially if youve been living in the wild for a while and loose most your scent. If you knew anything about hunting you would know Bow Hunting is done from trees and bushes of less than a few feet from animals.

Some people hunt hogs with a knife and nothing more. Boar Hogs believe it or not.
I knew someone whose friend did it with a large knife.

Again I will remind you both that the games accelerated time throws a bit of a monkey wrench in things and gives people the wrong impression because we as characters move in real time VS the game world moving at an accelerated pace. BUT EVEN WITH THAT... You can walk well over half if not the full map in a day. Not half a mile.

I play in Green Hell mode which is the hardest of the Game modes and I have experienced NONE Of you guys are claiming. Try walking up on an iguana or a Black Caiman or a Jaguar.
If Peccary or Capys or Tapir get within 5 feet of you they sprint off. The only reason it seems like they return quickly is because of the accelerated time.

Since the update they have changed snake spawns and plant spawning now is very random and doesnt respawn very quickly. You both need to check yourselves you are telling lies about the game in either sarcasm or exaggeration and likely because you dont own the game and are going off of what someone else is saying.

ALSO one more thing. Name a game that has Primitive ways of cooking and eating and starting fires that is recreated to use tinder and you have to make your Bow drill and or firestarter and collect tinder to start your fire and has primitive weapons and tools made the way they really are? Ive never seen a game add an entire Jungle with the realistic aspects of Snake bite Fire/food/water/ and shelter.


Last edited by Eagle; Apr 11, 2019 @ 4:07pm
Eagle Apr 11, 2019 @ 4:14pm 
Originally posted by Phoraex:
Originally posted by up100:
If you can't drink the water without getting parasites so how come you can get your hands clean enough to avoid parasites when using the exact same water?
I can't say anything.. You are RIGHT!

To answer your question on this....I dont think you guys know much about survival. Lots of survivalists... will wash their catch in the same water they catch it from after they skin it and then they cook it.

If you wash your hands in dirty water its not going to give you parasites because the water evaporates from your hands or you dry your hands on your clothes and to top it off you arent drinking water from your hands...

You arent eating while you hands have dirty water running down them. So no you are not RIGHT! You are in fact wrong.

Learn about things before saying its right or wrong. You have a hell of a lot less chance of getting parasites from eating with washed hands that the water runs off of... Than drinking the water straight. Especially from running water...

I time stamped the video for you just watch from there.
https://youtu.be/J4KXGjPPlxY?t=857 About 1 minute later hes washing his catch in the water.

Also this might blow your untrained minds but in survival in the remote Amazon and remote places for the most part Ground water is safe to drink. You can drink it and it can save your life there is a small chance of it having things in it but... The Mud filters they added to the game are used by natives who build them and take the water straight from the ground and after its filtration is much safer than just ground water for them to drink this is why you see videos of them drinking it straight from the filters well.

Also Rain water through the trees of the Amazon canopy its recommended you let it rain for 15mins or so before gathering for consumption of it because it needs to wash all the crap off the canopys its falling onto first then its just pure rain water and good to drink which is also what the filters fill up with. This is according to US. Army Jungle Operations manual. Rain water for the most part is safe to consume.

You guys have some learning to do about survival if you think you cant drink ground water from the remote parts of the Amazon or really anywhere for that matter I would be far less apt to trust it in highly contaminated and poluted areas like cities but it is none the less safe to drink.

I notate none of your profiles are able to be viewed to check for the game and your time in it. Funny how all of the ones talking like they have played share that in common and continue to spout nonsense.
Last edited by Eagle; Apr 11, 2019 @ 4:46pm
Jaunitta 🌸 Apr 11, 2019 @ 6:11pm 
It's not hard to tell the owners of this game from those who dont.
One sounds like opinions and one sounds like from play time.
Why bother throwing all that conjecture when this is a "game" and an awesome one.
If you don't like stay away.

Anyone who owns it with that attitude just refund it.
Owners of the game don't try to talk others out of it.
It is up to that individual as everyone has differents preferences.

All this stuff about there is no realism and other BS just shows my point.
If you want to suffer realism go watch Naked and Afraid or Alone. Bear Grylls.
To share one's experiences of this game is one thing and really comes across from that but when its constant degrading and opinionated that is a sure sign they don't own it .



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Date Posted: Apr 4, 2019 @ 11:59am
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