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RGBeanie_YT Sep 22, 2018 @ 3:53pm
Does the bow improve much?
I thought it'd be really useful, but you're made as accurate as Ray Charles stood on a jelly during an Eathquake. Does the apparent RNG of it improve much as you level it? Or is it always a case of never being accurate?
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LaOldi Sep 23, 2018 @ 2:09am 
When you crouch your accuracy is crap and the arrwows deviate hard to the left or to the right. When you stand the accuracy should be good. Also you obviously have to holt the aim button until the bow is strained to the max.
The bow skill (check your notebook in the section with the light bulb) only effects the time you need to aim and your stamina usage but not the accuracy.
So i Think your problem is that you are crouching.
Last edited by LaOldi; Sep 23, 2018 @ 2:10am
frillen Sep 23, 2018 @ 6:08am 
Originally posted by TurbogamingUK:
I thought it'd be really useful, but you're made as accurate as Ray Charles stood on a jelly during an Eathquake. Does the apparent RNG of it improve much as you level it? Or is it always a case of never being accurate?
I could not agree more, in my opinion bow shooting in this game sucks big time, I have never liked when a game decides how well my aim is, it really should be my own skills that decides.
I can agree that drop off, stamina used and damage can be depending on the the level and quality of bow/arrows, but never the aim, that takes away from my immersion when using ranged weapons.
Last edited by frillen; Sep 23, 2018 @ 6:09am
RGBeanie_YT Sep 23, 2018 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by LaOldi:
When you crouch your accuracy is crap and the arrwows deviate hard to the left or to the right. When you stand the accuracy should be good. Also you obviously have to holt the aim button until the bow is strained to the max.
The bow skill (check your notebook in the section with the light bulb) only effects the time you need to aim and your stamina usage but not the accuracy.
So i Think your problem is that you are crouching.

I tried both but it seems i'm often miles off the target yet
RGBeanie_YT Sep 23, 2018 @ 2:37pm 
Originally posted by frillen:
Originally posted by TurbogamingUK:
I thought it'd be really useful, but you're made as accurate as Ray Charles stood on a jelly during an Eathquake. Does the apparent RNG of it improve much as you level it? Or is it always a case of never being accurate?
I could not agree more, in my opinion bow shooting in this game sucks big time, I have never liked when a game decides how well my aim is, it really should be my own skills that decides.
I can agree that drop off, stamina used and damage can be depending on the the level and quality of bow/arrows, but never the aim, that takes away from my immersion when using ranged weapons.

Yeah it makes no sense when throwing things seems perfectly fine
This isn't a bow simulator but here's some thoughts on bows:

1. Try making a bow that won't break in real life with more that 5-10lbs of pull. Either your string or the wood will break way faster the higher the pull you get out of it. I made bows as a kid; trial and error. Pine, Oak, Eucalyptus branches. String, yarn, fishing line. One or the other gives and about 20lbs of pull having a string or the bow itself snap at full draw hurts like a b****!

2. Nocking and holding the drawn takes effort (unless you've got a compound bow then you can pretty much keep it drawn for a long time). There's a window you have. Too soon or too long and your aim goes off.

3.. Aiming with bows; if you've never used a bow your aim is going to suck. Go to an archery range and watch people used 20lb bows with modern materials and arrows hit a target 10m away. Without training you can watch people hit targets on the next lane, watch arrows plow into the dirt meters before the target or go really high and over. I'll post a picture of an arrow still stuck in the rafters from years ago.

3. Takes a lot of time to make a arrow shaft that'll fly true. I chuckle when I craft an arrow in this game. Perfectly straight and fletched using a stone tool.


IMHO really the bow they show is pretty much good for hunting small game, your bow should break easy and your aim should be terrible except for point blank. Damage should go up as you figure out how to make a better bow and accuracy should go up along with the bow, arrows and practice.

Still this is NOT a sim so lots of leeway should be in the direction of FUN. :)

Ok, off my soap box. :)
RGBeanie_YT Sep 23, 2018 @ 5:05pm 
Originally posted by NoSkillz:
This isn't a bow simulator but here's some thoughts on bows:

1. Try making a bow that won't break in real life with more that 5-10lbs of pull. Either your string or the wood will break way faster the higher the pull you get out of it. I made bows as a kid; trial and error. Pine, Oak, Eucalyptus branches. String, yarn, fishing line. One or the other gives and about 20lbs of pull having a string or the bow itself snap at full draw hurts like a b****!

2. Nocking and holding the drawn takes effort (unless you've got a compound bow then you can pretty much keep it drawn for a long time). There's a window you have. Too soon or too long and your aim goes off.

3.. Aiming with bows; if you've never used a bow your aim is going to suck. Go to an archery range and watch people used 20lb bows with modern materials and arrows hit a target 10m away. Without training you can watch people hit targets on the next lane, watch arrows plow into the dirt meters before the target or go really high and over. I'll post a picture of an arrow still stuck in the rafters from years ago.

3. Takes a lot of time to make a arrow shaft that'll fly true. I chuckle when I craft an arrow in this game. Perfectly straight and fletched using a stone tool.


IMHO really the bow they show is pretty much good for hunting small game, your bow should break easy and your aim should be terrible except for point blank. Damage should go up as you figure out how to make a better bow and accuracy should go up along with the bow, arrows and practice.

Still this is NOT a sim so lots of leeway should be in the direction of FUN. :)

Ok, off my soap box. :)

Its a video game about survival....

I dont expect to throw rocks and spears with 100% accuracy but I do in this. Amongst a host of other things you expect because its a game. Considering the other intricate things you apparently craft perfectly, while not expecting a compound bow, I expect to maybe hit something 5m away at least lol
ShadowFlame Apr 22, 2020 @ 5:43am 
Originally posted by TurbogamingUK:
Originally posted by NoSkillz:
This isn't a bow simulator but here's some thoughts on bows:

1. Try making a bow that won't break in real life with more that 5-10lbs of pull. Either your string or the wood will break way faster the higher the pull you get out of it. I made bows as a kid; trial and error. Pine, Oak, Eucalyptus branches. String, yarn, fishing line. One or the other gives and about 20lbs of pull having a string or the bow itself snap at full draw hurts like a b****!

2. Nocking and holding the drawn takes effort (unless you've got a compound bow then you can pretty much keep it drawn for a long time). There's a window you have. Too soon or too long and your aim goes off.

3.. Aiming with bows; if you've never used a bow your aim is going to suck. Go to an archery range and watch people used 20lb bows with modern materials and arrows hit a target 10m away. Without training you can watch people hit targets on the next lane, watch arrows plow into the dirt meters before the target or go really high and over. I'll post a picture of an arrow still stuck in the rafters from years ago.

3. Takes a lot of time to make a arrow shaft that'll fly true. I chuckle when I craft an arrow in this game. Perfectly straight and fletched using a stone tool.


IMHO really the bow they show is pretty much good for hunting small game, your bow should break easy and your aim should be terrible except for point blank. Damage should go up as you figure out how to make a better bow and accuracy should go up along with the bow, arrows and practice.

Still this is NOT a sim so lots of leeway should be in the direction of FUN. :)

Ok, off my soap box. :)

Its a video game about survival....

I dont expect to throw rocks and spears with 100% accuracy but I do in this. Amongst a host of other things you expect because its a game. Considering the other intricate things you apparently craft perfectly, while not expecting a compound bow, I expect to maybe hit something 5m away at least lol

I dont know what your Problem is hold shift and you can aim at things 20 m away without issues as long as you shoot a little over the head, if you want to say ♥♥♥♥ about the arrows then do it after shooting at parrots... the arrow just hits it and flys into nirvana and you will never see it again
Ishan451 Apr 22, 2020 @ 6:47am 
Originally posted by frillen:
I could not agree more, in my opinion bow shooting in this game sucks big time, I have never liked when a game decides how well my aim is, it really should be my own skills that decides.

Except the game doesn't decide how good your aim is. You pull the bow, press shift to hold your breath to stabilize the shot.. and it will dead steady your crosshair. At least until you run out of endurance.

The higher your skill, the longer you can hold your aim at full draw.
Favela Venceu! Apr 22, 2020 @ 7:28am 
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frillen Apr 22, 2020 @ 8:55am 
Originally posted by Ishan451:
Originally posted by frillen:
I could not agree more, in my opinion bow shooting in this game sucks big time, I have never liked when a game decides how well my aim is, it really should be my own skills that decides.

Except the game doesn't decide how good your aim is. You pull the bow, press shift to hold your breath to stabilize the shot.. and it will dead steady your crosshair. At least until you run out of endurance.

The higher your skill, the longer you can hold your aim at full draw.
Please look at the date of my post, it was from Sep. 2018 way back in early access where lots hings were quite a bit different than it is now.
I haven't played this game since then, maybe you are right that the game doesn't control your aim depending on your bow skill level anymore, but it most definitely added some randomness to bow aiming back then which caused more frustrations than actual difficulty :SmilingSoldier:
Virago Apr 22, 2020 @ 10:01am 
As long as you steady the aim with shift key you're pretty much ready from day one in this game. Skill only lets you consume less stamina.
RGBeanie_YT Apr 24, 2020 @ 4:41am 
I guess it has improved since launch then, coming back for a revisit soon
Jaunitta 🌸 Apr 24, 2020 @ 5:47am 
Originally posted by Virago:
As long as you steady the aim with shift key you're pretty much ready from day one in this game. Skill only lets you consume less stamina.
Virago saved me writing.
Our skills will improve as we use the bow adding to it efficiency
Open your survival notepad open the bottom tab on teh left look slike a light bulb all our skills explained there
WarNerve Oct 2, 2021 @ 5:19pm 
Originally posted by frillen:
Originally posted by TurbogamingUK:
I thought it'd be really useful, but you're made as accurate as Ray Charles stood on a jelly during an Eathquake. Does the apparent RNG of it improve much as you level it? Or is it always a case of never being accurate?
I could not agree more, in my opinion bow shooting in this game sucks big time, I have never liked when a game decides how well my aim is, it really should be my own skills that decides.
I can agree that drop off, stamina used and damage can be depending on the the level and quality of bow/arrows, but never the aim, that takes away from my immersion when using ranged weapons.

When I first tried this game aiming the bow felt really good. It reminded me of Skyrim. I've since come back to the game and when I crafted my first bow I noticed immediately that they changed the way that the bow works. My character shakes like he has Parkinson's. And holding the, "Steady Aim" button only helps for a few very short seconds, then I'm out of Stamina and back to shaking like crazy. No, sir! I do not like it!
nextgengranny Oct 3, 2021 @ 12:27am 
Originally posted by WarNerve:
Originally posted by frillen:
I could not agree more, in my opinion bow shooting in this game sucks big time, I have never liked when a game decides how well my aim is, it really should be my own skills that decides.
I can agree that drop off, stamina used and damage can be depending on the the level and quality of bow/arrows, but never the aim, that takes away from my immersion when using ranged weapons.

When I first tried this game aiming the bow felt really good. It reminded me of Skyrim. I've since come back to the game and when I crafted my first bow I noticed immediately that they changed the way that the bow works. My character shakes like he has Parkinson's. And holding the, "Steady Aim" button only helps for a few very short seconds, then I'm out of Stamina and back to shaking like crazy. No, sir! I do not like it!

I hunt exclusively w/ the bow, & almost always hunt from day one. But even when I play to 200+ days, such as w/ SoA, I still have to steady my aim, or it's all over the place. -.-
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Date Posted: Sep 22, 2018 @ 3:53pm
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