[SOLVED] SOFTLOCKED OUT OF POST GAME CONTENT. Unobtainable "Ghost Face/ Candle-less" Bunny.

[ShaQuilava]

The bunny that you're supposed to get by playing the flute to transform the blue faced ghost is not showing up at all. Yes I went to the bunny shrine to confirm that I didn't already have it. It REALLY taints the entire game's experience to do everything that you can to get all collectibles, and have that STILL not be good enough because the game just broke. There's absolutely no way I'm wasting all the time and effort I put into this play through, just to have to scrap it and start another, only to HOPE that things decide to function properly on a new run.

[SOLVED] Thankfully I was wrong. User Perseus below let me know that THINGS RESPAWN WHEN YOU DIE. Had no clue. Don't be an ignorant whiny baby like me.

[Abolish the Penny]

Hey. I hope you can get some help with this if in fact you are soft-locked. But also I think probably you should relax a little bit. It's okay. No one is out to scam you. No one is trying to ruin your day. You are going to be OK.

The bunnies are used to solve a particular puzzle. In the worst case scenario that you don't have this one bunny but still understand the solution concept, you can look up a screenshot of that particular bunny and incorporate it into your solution. That's the worst case scenario. That is the absolute worst thing that can happen in your life. The sun will rise tomorrow. I promise.

[FDru]

My bunny fell in the water. I thought it was gone but jumping into the water played the sound of collecting a bunny and it apparently did count as collected.

[Perseus]

The moving "blue square faces" follow the same spawning logic as firecrackers, fruits, stalactites and stalagmites : Once used/destroyed, they only reappear after you die. If you've previously destroyed that one and haven't died since, it won't be there.

tl;dr dying and respawning should solve your issue.

[ShaQuilava]

Originally posted by FDru:

My bunny fell in the water. I thought it was gone but jumping into the water played the sound of collecting a bunny and it apparently did count as collected.

I thought to try the same, in case he was swimming around down there but, no luck.

[ShaQuilava]

Originally posted by Perseus:

The moving "blue square faces" follow the same spawning logic as firecrackers, fruits, stalactites and stalagmites : Once used/destroyed, they only reappear after you die. If you've previously destroyed that one and haven't died since, it won't be there.

tl;dr dying and respawning should solve your issue.

THIS IS IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! My ignorance is immeasurable.
I did not know that any of what you said was a thing. I had no clue things, (fruits, breakable spikes, etc.,) respawned at all. I only had one death in my playthrough, and I don't even know when it happened, so I never knowingly experienced things respawning. I just know that one skull ended up making me sad later.

I still think it's kinda silly to force people to die for the sake of completion, (in rare cases like my own,) in a game that ALSO rewards not dying at all, but still. Again, thank you.

[Perseus]

Originally posted by ShaQuilava:

I still think it's kinda silly to force people to die for the sake of completion, (in rare cases like my own,) in a game that ALSO rewards not dying at all, but still. Again, thank you.

I do too. There's a big flaw in general with the game's lack of consistency, even just with the death system :
The game has unfair and unpredictable instant deaths, but still rewards the player for not dying.
The water doesn't damage you, but the first other hazard kills you instantly.

[Abolish the Penny]

Just to be clear, the reward is a meaningless trinket that turns the phones red and you can complete the game including all endings without it; it's not intended for a first or really even second playthrough of the game.

The decision to make water not damage you but animals and ghosts kill you instantly is a tradeoff between platforming difficulty and evasion difficulty. That doesn't make it unfair, it makes it a different kind of difficult than you maybe expected. And again, nothing of consequence is gated behind anything related to deaths.

I have never before seen a bunch of people who are enjoying a game actively trying not to enjoy the game so they can freak out about how unfair it is that they didn't enjoy the game.

[ShaQuilava]

Originally posted by Abolish the Penny:

Just to be clear, the reward is a meaningless trinket that turns the phones red and you can complete the game including all endings without it; it's not intended for a first or really even second playthrough of the game.

The decision to make water not damage you but animals and ghosts kill you instantly is a tradeoff between platforming difficulty and evasion difficulty. That doesn't make it unfair, it makes it a different kind of difficult than you maybe expected. And again, nothing of consequence is gated behind anything related to deaths.

I have never before seen a bunch of people who are enjoying a game actively trying not to enjoy the game so they can freak out about how unfair it is that they didn't enjoy the game.

I feel like you're kind of missing the point, and think that we're a lot more upset than we are. But anyways, things were resolved.

[Perseus]

Originally posted by Abolish the Penny:

I have never before seen a bunch of people who are enjoying a game actively trying not to enjoy the game so they can freak out about how unfair it is that they didn't enjoy the game.

Yeah, you completely missed the point. I enjoyed the game, but other than that, this paragraph is completely off.
Also, that i enjoyed the game doesn't i can't criticize its flaws, especially when the game suffers so much from them¹ and could have been much better.

¹To be clear, the flaws in consistency i cited above were just a few examples, not [the entirety of the game's flaws] that i'm saying the game greatly suffers from.

[M.C. Clodow]

I died multiple times, the ghost never respawned and that's the last bunny I have to collect...

[Perseus]

Originally posted by M.C. Clodow:

I died multiple times, the ghost never respawned and that's the last bunny I have to collect...

Are you sure it's the right screen? Could you take a screenshot of it, as well as a screenshot of the third screen starting from the left on bunny island?

[M.C. Clodow]

Originally posted by Perseus:

Originally posted by M.C. Clodow:

I died multiple times, the ghost never respawned and that's the last bunny I have to collect...

Are you sure it's the right screen? Could you take a screenshot of it, as well as a screenshot of the third screen starting from the left on bunny island?

It was and I can confirm that at some point in the game this particular ghost won't respawn no matter what you do. This happens maybe when all the candles are lit and the second ending is completed.
Anyway, I tried to collect this bunny on a new save and it was added to my main save. So I'm good now I have 16 of them!

[Perseus]

Originally posted by M.C. Clodow:

Anyway, I tried to collect this bunny on a new save and it was added to my main save. So I'm good now I have 16 of them!

That's not how that works. If you get a bunny using one save slot, you won't get it on another.
Chances are that you got the bunny and didn't realize that you did, which prevented the ghost from reappearing when you died.

[M.C. Clodow]

Well I'm telling you, I'm 100% sure that I didn't play the flute song for the ghost to transform into the bunny on my main save and it went from 15 to 16 when I did it on my second save so...