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Games similar to this that are solvable to at least 99% without external help?
I'd really like to know similar games like this where the puzzles are not behind some weird things or even put outside the game or where you have to dive into the games files to solve stuff.

I loved how this game managed to let you finish the whole game (except for one puzzle) without the need of setting you up with big storylines, gazillion texts that contain maybe 1-2 words you need or stuff.
You just explored a beautiful world the way you want and solve everything mostly intuitively as the puzzles are so well build they explain themself without too much side stuff.

I'd really love to play more like that. Any ideas ?
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Ragnardo 20/mai./2024 às 17:43 
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I am not sure why La Mulana has not come up, maybe it's too hard? you CAN do La Mulana without external help if you are a god of puzzle solving, I loved it but had to use the net for a few parts. I hear part 2 is a bit easier to play but man, for Puzzle type MVS that first one was amazing.
La Mulana and solving everything mostly intuitively... hah

I dunno I got about 75% through before I gave in, which I know is not super close to 100 but I was proud lol, it is to much and too cryptic though at a point but still an amazing game.
Goblin 20/mai./2024 às 18:06 
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La Mulana and solving everything mostly intuitively... hah

I dunno I got about 75% through before I gave in, which I know is not super close to 100 but I was proud lol, it is to much and too cryptic though at a point but still an amazing game.
Doesn't matter, you didn't solve most things intuitively. You solved them by reading tablets in the game. Intuitive means you see a setup and figure out how to solve it with zero explanation. Possibly because earlier you saw a different setup which was more prone to you figuring the thing out, but it was still you figuring it out and not getting an instruction.

In that regard, I'd strongly suggest a game called A Can of Wormholes - provided the beauty of the world isn't a hard requirement if the puzzles are good enough to make up for it. It does provide a decent degree of freedom if you experiment a little, and has zero text other than occasionally showing you controls. Even the built in hint system doesn't actually "give hints", it just shows you an alternate puzzle where you can figure out mechanics more easily.
Stephen's Sausage Roll is similar, in my opinion even better, but it also is harder and uglier, plus more linear.
symphony 20/mai./2024 às 18:23 
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symphony 20/mai./2024 às 18:26 
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I dunno I got about 75% through before I gave in, which I know is not super close to 100 but I was proud lol, it is to much and too cryptic though at a point but still an amazing game.
Doesn't matter, you didn't solve most things intuitively. You solved them by reading tablets in the game. Intuitive means you see a setup and figure out how to solve it with zero explanation. Possibly because earlier you saw a different setup which was more prone to you figuring the thing out, but it was still you figuring it out and not getting an instruction.
you're splitting hairs brother
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Ragnardo 20/mai./2024 às 18:31 
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I dunno I got about 75% through before I gave in, which I know is not super close to 100 but I was proud lol, it is to much and too cryptic though at a point but still an amazing game.
Doesn't matter, you didn't solve most things intuitively. You solved them by reading tablets in the game. Intuitive means you see a setup and figure out how to solve it with zero explanation. Possibly because earlier you saw a different setup which was more prone to you figuring the thing out, but it was still you figuring it out and not getting an instruction.

In that regard, I'd strongly suggest a game called A Can of Wormholes - provided the beauty of the world isn't a hard requirement if the puzzles are good enough to make up for it. It does provide a decent degree of freedom if you experiment a little, and has zero text other than occasionally showing you controls. Even the built in hint system doesn't actually "give hints", it just shows you an alternate puzzle where you can figure out mechanics more easily.
Stephen's Sausage Roll is similar, in my opinion even better, but it also is harder and uglier, plus more linear.

Ah ok, cool, I just figured since the tablets are there and I am supposed to read them it's an intuitively part of the game. since my instinct as indiana jones is to read them lol but I understand what you are saying. I think La Mulana looks great if not dated so I do appreciate the art but I will definitely check out the others you are talking about.

I take it "Outer Wilds" would not fit into the category of OP since you have to read to figure out anything at all but I think that is one of the best games of all time, its fantastic and felt super Intuitive even with all the reading, just all felt like everything was supposed to be as it was and I had to figure out the giant puzzle with no hints. Loved it and gives me Animal Well vibes even though there is a bit more guidance though not that much.

Thanks for the recs, I'll check them out!
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Ragnardo 20/mai./2024 às 18:40 
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Doesn't matter, you didn't solve most things intuitively. You solved them by reading tablets in the game. Intuitive means you see a setup and figure out how to solve it with zero explanation. Possibly because earlier you saw a different setup which was more prone to you figuring the thing out, but it was still you figuring it out and not getting an instruction.
you're splitting hairs brother

Its kinda my bad because I somehow missed the 99% solvable without outside help that is the huge subject line lol but I do hear La Mulana part 2 is more like that , even if reading tablets in game is part of the game. I mean, the entire premise is you are exploring ancient ruins that have some language left behind... so seems like an intuitve part of the game but I get it if someone does not want to read in game. I get how ESA is a better rec, love that one also.. SAme with Tunic, but then again, you are reading a bunch in that game to get anywhere at points so maybe it does not count?

My main vote is Outer Wilds, even if you do have to read, it's the best game made in modern times to me at least and as similar "ah ha, wow!" experiences like Animal Well, but for me 10x better.
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Goblin 20/mai./2024 às 19:07 
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Its kinda my bad because I somehow missed the 99% solvable without outside help that is the huge subject line lol but I do hear La Mulana part 2 is more like that , even if reading tablets in game is part of the game.
It's moreso the keyword intuitive plus "without the need of setting you up with big storylines, gazillion texts that contain maybe 1-2 words you need or stuff" that makes me think OP explicitly doesn't want La-Mulana style games. Same for Outer Wilds. They're both games I highly recommend (although for La-Mulana only if you're a bit of a difficulty masochist, I did beat both games' One Finger achievements but even without the weapon restrictions and hard mode people have plenty trouble with the retro-difficulty) and they're in my unordered top-10 of games, but I just don't think they fit the requirements OP listed.

Tunic's still on my to-play list, but I'm still waiting for either a better sale or a really long dry spell of good puzzle content, so I have no idea how much that one fits or doesn't.
Speaking of (lack of) long droughts of good puzzles, another most likely good recommendation is Isles of Sea and Sky which comes out in about 35 hours. I of course can't judge its final quality, but the demo I played over a year ago was amazing. Sadly said demo's currently no longer available.
Ragnardo 20/mai./2024 às 19:58 
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Its kinda my bad because I somehow missed the 99% solvable without outside help that is the huge subject line lol but I do hear La Mulana part 2 is more like that , even if reading tablets in game is part of the game.
It's moreso the keyword intuitive plus "without the need of setting you up with big storylines, gazillion texts that contain maybe 1-2 words you need or stuff" that makes me think OP explicitly doesn't want La-Mulana style games. Same for Outer Wilds. They're both games I highly recommend (although for La-Mulana only if you're a bit of a difficulty masochist, I did beat both games' One Finger achievements but even without the weapon restrictions and hard mode people have plenty trouble with the retro-difficulty) and they're in my unordered top-10 of games, but I just don't think they fit the requirements OP listed.

Tunic's still on my to-play list, but I'm still waiting for either a better sale or a really long dry spell of good puzzle content, so I have no idea how much that one fits or doesn't.
Speaking of (lack of) long droughts of good puzzles, another most likely good recommendation is Isles of Sea and Sky which comes out in about 35 hours. I of course can't judge its final quality, but the demo I played over a year ago was amazing. Sadly said demo's currently no longer available.

We seem to like really similar games, I loved Tunic, it's just a big part of it is what the OP does not want to do. It's a great game, I bet you would like it a bit. I am curious your loose top 10 games, does not even have to be puzzle, hell , the monkey island series would be on mine! I don't mean to hijack this topic but I am very curious your loose top 10..
Goblin 20/mai./2024 às 21:06 
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We seem to like really similar games, I loved Tunic, it's just a big part of it is what the OP does not want to do. It's a great game, I bet you would like it a bit. I am curious your loose top 10 games, does not even have to be puzzle, hell , the monkey island series would be on mine! I don't mean to hijack this topic but I am very curious your loose top 10..
The aforementioned Outer Wilds and La-Mulana, and Stephen's Sausage roll are all in it.
Aside from puzzle games: TLoZ: Majora's Mask, Bioshock, Metroid Prime, TWEWY, Cave Story, and Dark Souls. There's plenty of puzzle games I love, but I enjoy variety too much to have them in my to 10. Each of these games is to me my favorite memory of a certain type of game, kinda.
And for the most out of left field one... I think a game I played somewhat recently called CHR$(143). Now that one's hard to explain, especially without spoiling some things that may be best left to a "wait seriously?" moment. Let's just say it looks (and plays) like a game from the early 80s but has some of the weirdest in-depth and all over the place gameplay I can think of. It's technically a puzzle game. And a programming one. And physics simulator. And an adventure game. In a way it just feels like it's unbothered with what a game should be by modern standards and explores what it can do outside of that, sparking an old feeling of joy and amazement. Just be warned that it doesn't "have some rough edges", it's more like a mobius strip of sandpaper.
Maldito 20/mai./2024 às 21:41 
First of all, the important ones:
* TUNIC
* Outer Wilds

Now a bonus:
* La-Mulana 1 and 2
Mandrill 21/mai./2024 às 2:25 
La Mulana 2 has some puzzles that feel harder than those La Mulana 1 - but the curve is less steep and more user friendly. So while the puzzles are harder to solve, the information given to player makes them easier - if that makes any sense. Both entries are great games - but tough
McFrugal 21/mai./2024 às 2:56 
A word of warning, La-Mulana 2 has some bad design choices when it comes to boss fights. The combat is overall much worse than the original, or even the remake of the original.
Tked 21/mai./2024 às 8:09 
https://store.steampowered.com/app/63650/URU_Complete_Chronicles/
All puzzles except one are completely intuitively solvable without reading any words.
lordatog 21/mai./2024 às 9:22 
It's been mentioned a few times already, but I'm confident that out of all other games that exist, Environmental Station Alpha is the closest other experience you will find. (Another game by the same developer, Baba Is You, is nothing like this one, but is one of the smartest puzzle games ever made and more than worth a play if you're interested in that.)
tanoshimi 21/mai./2024 às 9:44 
On top of those already mentioned, I really enjoyed Chants of Sennaar (which, despite being a puzzle game about language, doesn't really require much reading), and it has a free demo available to try it out!
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