About the high CPU usage

[rogermorse]

This is a terrible port and I get 50fps with my 4080 while my 9700k is stuck at 100% for no reason in 99% of gameplay.

https://github.com/Kaldaien/SpecialK/releases/tag/sk_odyssey

The steam discussion thread he points at must have been deleted.

I googled a lot and could not find any real setting to improve CPU performance. Volumetric clouds on low and lowering character and environment detail doesn't really help (the cloud don't help at all, didn't even have 1% increase in framerate).

More inputs are welcome. I really want to get through odyssey just to play Valhalla...hoping it will be a bit better.

[Just Guy 0_0]

what resolution?

am I seeing it correctly that you have 50% botlneck ? you know you not supposed to go over 20%?

it means your gpu only uses 41% power thats very bad...

it also makes sense why your cpu is at 100%

this cpu is way too weak for 4080.

if you upgrade cpu problem would be solved.


(another thing maybe your resolution in settings is more than 100% that would reduce fps as well).

[rogermorse]

Originally posted by HIZ:

what resolution?

am I seeing it correctly that you have 50% botlneck ? you know you not supposed to go over 20%?

it means your gpu only uses 41% power thats very bad...

it also makes sense why your cpu is at 100%

this cpu is way too weak for 4080.

if you upgrade cpu problem would be solved.


(another thing maybe your resolution in settings is more than 100% that would reduce fps as well).

I know my CPU is a bit behind compared to the 4080. I will wait for Intell 15th to upgrade the CPU. My current CPU is still one of the best CPU that was available when Odyssey came out. Odyssey is just a poor port, there is nothing around that. My cpu still holds completely fine in most recent biggest games (maybe CP2077 could be slightly cpu bottlenecked in some areas but I still get solid 90fps there last time I tried). GPU obviously stays in odyssey at max 60% even at 90fps. It's the game that is heavily CPU driven and I was wondering if there was a way to minimize that...all my google searches didn't give any result, somebody suggest changing core affinity (didn't work) somebody else says volumetric clouds (didn't help). I guess I'll have to live with that.

[MBK]

CPU is too weak for this open world game with 2 layers of DRM, there is nothing you can do to improve performance in this game

[Peter_Frank]

Only eight cores and no hyper-threading. The 4080 is starved. The RAM bandwidth is rather limited also. I run two E5-2643V4 (2016) and the game uses all 24 logical processors. I was actually amazed how well they distributed the load across the available processors. One doesn't usually see that. They push my 3060ti up to 100% at times (everything maxed out).
It certainly could be better optimized, but I think the main problem is the lack of available threads: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-9700k-9th-gen-cpu,5876.html. Maybe try shutting down anything else that may be running in the background?
I'm not sure I would worry too much about the CPU being at 100% if what you see on the screen is good enough. 50fps is plenty, at least in my opinion, to enjoy the game. :-)

[Baker]

I don't' think you should be having this problem.
I also have a 9700k but with a 3080 and I did not have any problem with this game.
Pretty sure I have the game vsync at 60fps.

I did have lower frame rate with Valhalla actually that one maybe about 50

Only think I don't know is what resolution you are running the game at?
I am still using my old 1080p monitor.

[rogermorse]

Originally posted by Baker:

I don't' think you should be having this problem.
I also have a 9700k but with a 3080 and I did not have any problem with this game.
Pretty sure I have the game vsync at 60fps.

I did have lower frame rate with Valhalla actually that one maybe about 50

Only think I don't know is what resolution you are running the game at?
I am still using my old 1080p monitor.

Resolution is not the issue, happens also on lower resolutions and it makes sense since the 4080 obviously in this game even when capped at 90fps doesn't exceed 60-70% usage, I limited the framerate to 60fps now...the drops from 90 to 50-ish fps were a headache.

I also want to point out that obviously the drops are in the cities (the bigger ones), otherwise out of the cities the game would still stay far above 60 practically all the time.

I checked some youtube videos and yes series 9xxx and 8xxx really struggle in game (they all get capped around 60 in many situations), despite the game actually apparently using all the cores.

Anyway the thread was not really about the CPU but about checking if some settings in game would load the CPU a bit less but as far as I understand (also after googling and youtubing a lot), there is no such setting. Maybe thinning the crowd of people would help but there is no such setting.

As bad a port as Arkham Knight back then.

[KENNY_UAP]

Hey i use to have the same problem until i installed A direct x to Vulcan converter, although i am on an AMD only system it fixed all the problems your describing,,, You can give it a shot, just google DXVK mod, but again it might work better for AMD systems i have no idea, as it was originally made to help Linux systems run windows pc games...

[rogermorse]

Interesting I googled a bit about it but seems like the problem was fixed with Nvidia drivers back then?

https://www.reddit.com/r/allbenchmarks/comments/p1079h/testing_dxvk_vulkan_wrapper_with_acodyssey_using/

[rogermorse]

Oh but I see even recently on modern rigs the same tool improved things

https://steamcommunity.com/app/812140/discussions/1/3593338530530498571/?ctp=2

i'm going to check better.

[animal_PLANET]

Originally posted by rogermorse:

This is a terrible port and I get 50fps with my 4080 while my 9700k is stuck at 100% for no reason in 99% of gameplay.

Its not a terrible port. You are gimping your GPU and using it on a 5+ year old CPU that doesnt even support HT.

If you only getting 60% GPU usage in this game and other games like CP2077. Shows right there you have a CPU bottleneck because the GPU is not getting data fast enough from CPU. It should be ~98% majority of the time when used properly.

If you on 1080p the usage will be lower yes, but no way should you be using that 4080 for anything lower than 1440p.

Here is a quick bench between the bit more powerful 9900k compared to that of a bit more modern CPU. Shows how much faster they are.

https://youtu.be/IxFGeVmh8-8

Until you upgrade your CPU. GPU will not have good usage. Therefore have lower performance than it should.

Only suggestion I would have for you is to do a clean boot. Which means disable any non-essential program from loading with PC boot. That means check task manager startup, system config services (all non MSFT), and task scheduler (task schedule library). If any non essential program is enabled in those areas it will load. This will help free up some resources to CPU and RAM.

[Baker]

Originally posted by MBK:

CPU is too weak for this open world game with 2 layers of DRM, there is nothing you can do to improve performance in this game

I am not sure if that is really true.
Granted I only run at 1080p but I'm sure I was getting a solid 60 fps with my 9700k.
ITs been awhile since I played but performances seemed good to me in this game,
Assassins creed Valhalla I did notice some drops into the 50s though.

[rogermorse]

You missed my point. CP2077 or any other game that might be CPU intense (and that is not a bad port, like Fallout 4 for instance, or this AC Odyssey) works better. No other game made my 9700k struggle like AC Odyssey did

The example of AC Odyssey is that being an old game on an older CPU which was STRONG and NEW when the game came out is just a proof of how bad a port it is, relying too much on cpu.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the 4080 I am running or whatever GPU you pair with it...it was the same with the 3080 and it would have been the same on a 1080ti: game relying too much on CPU.

BTW I upgraded to a 78003XD and of course now I am stuck at 90fps in every situation (90fps manually limited, it would go much higher).

[failsafe]

Originally posted by HIZ:

I know my CPU is a bit behind compared to the 4080. I will wait for Intell 15th to upgrade the CPU. My current CPU is still one of the best CPU that was available when Odyssey came out.

After a CPU for gaming go AMD the 7800X3D/7950X3D CPU's are the best on the market right now for gaming and early performance leaks for the 8000 series looks like a pretty big boost again, Intel have been stagnating last for a couple of generations now and the new 14000 series is pretty much just a 13000 series refresh.

[rogermorse]

Originally posted by failsafe:

After a CPU for gaming go AMD the 7800X3D/7950X3D CPU's are the best on the market

I know, that's what I chose for my upgrade, I did write it in the post? though swapped the 3 and the X in the hurry of writing lol

[animal_PLANET]

Originally posted by rogermorse:

You missed my point.

The majority here did not miss your point. As we are all saying pretty much the same thing.

What you are missing is that if you get GPU usage at 60% for multiple games. It shows you are under utilizing the GPU. Due to CPU limitation.

Also, it is known that this game and Origins run better when CPU's support HT. Which your CPU lacks.

Did you do a clean boot?

Originally posted by rogermorse:

BTW I upgraded to a 78003XD and of course now I am stuck at 90fps in every situation (90fps manually limited, it would go much higher).

So now you are saying you upgraded. So I am assuming performance is now fixed and your GPU has much higher Utilization?