Now I like the leveling system .. "fixed"

[Don Cool]

In Odyssey I have sort of finished the 3 first parts and I have outleveled a few of the zones I havn´t yet visited, I am level 20 and there are 2 large parts with max level 16 unexplored. That means there are no rewards I can get and since there is probably no story content either, just a bunch of camps, I feel very little incentive to go there.

Sometimes I want to explore and kill stuff, other times I feel like investing in a more story related content. In Odyssey I already see the islands, their levels and fail to understand why it is necessary to impose level restrictions on zones.

Don´t know how many played ME Andromeda but one of the good things about that game besides the combat itself was the fact that everything scaled to your level and quests were actually extremely varied. If you wanted to follow the story you could do that and only that, if you wanted to explore the rewards were actually awesome.

Don´t really understand this whole level restriction and forced grinding. Since I am far above my required level I do like to explore, maybe I am weird for liking rewards to be at my level.

[Jouchebag]

Originally posted by Don:

In Odyssey I have sort of finished the 3 first parts and I have outleveled a few of the zones I havn´t yet visited, I am level 20 and there are 2 large parts with max level 16 unexplored. That means there are no rewards I can get and since there is probably no story content either, just a bunch of camps, I feel very little incentive to go there.

Sometimes I want to explore and kill stuff, other times I feel like investing in a more story related content. In Odyssey I already see the islands, their levels and fail to understand why it is necessary to impose level restrictions on zones.

Don´t know how many played ME Andromeda but one of the good things about that game besides the combat itself was the fact that everything scaled to your level and quests were actually extremely varied. If you wanted to follow the story you could do that and only that, if you wanted to explore the rewards were actually awesome.

Don´t really understand this whole level restriction and forced grinding. Since I am far above my required level I do like to explore, maybe I am weird for liking rewards to be at my level.

The game will direct you to most places with quests or sidequests eventually. Just keep looking for those gold and cyan/teal quest markers on the map. Nearly every story quest opens up a handful of sidequests.

You say you're above required levels but don't "understand the forced grinding" though? Why would you grind if you're already above required levels? Again, you admit there's level restrictions on zones but admit to being higher than necessary and thus able to reach places beyond the intended scope at that point.

It's a post full of contradictions. I get that the arbitrary level restriction is obnoxious, pointless even, but it's not much hindrance to exploration for very long.

If it's any consolation, you'll be able to freely move about Greece LONG before the end of the game and enjoy that unlimited freedom (Level 45ish) for the second HALF of the game, if not longer considering DLC. Following the normal flow of the game through all DLC you'll end up like level 70+ purely on actual scripted quests.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

It's an open world RPG, you can't just go and kill whoever you want, or wherever you want. It would ruin the game and make it a GTA. That's why the leveling system is needed. You need to be Stronger to go into certain areas or to kill harder/special enemies or bosses.

[Don Cool]

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

Originally posted by Don:

If it's any consolation, you'll be able to freely move about Greece LONG before the end of the game and enjoy that unlimited freedom (Level 45ish) for the second HALF of the game, if not longer considering DLC. Following the normal flow of the game through all DLC you'll end up like level 70+ purely on actual scripted quests.

I think my main gripe is that all the loot I get is useless in zones which I have outleveled, meaning I would like for all zones to actually match my level. A lot of games already do this, I don´t mind some zones being restricted by level as much.

[🦜Cloud Boy🦜]

Enemies will match your level if you play on Nightmare difficulty, but only the lower enemies will upgraded to your level, not the higher enemies. You need to level up yourself to face the higher enemies. That's the core game-mechanics.

if all the enemies always match your level, then there is no point of leveling system at all.

[zarnivop]

Originally posted by Don:

Originally posted by Jouchebag:

I think my main gripe is that all the loot I get is useless in zones which I have outleveled, meaning I would like for all zones to actually match my level. A lot of games already do this, I don´t mind some zones being restricted by level as much.

Loot is always useful. Sell/dismantle.

[MF]

Originally posted by Don:

Don´t really understand this whole level restriction and forced grinding. Since I am far above my required level I do like to explore, maybe I am weird for liking rewards to be at my level.

Valhalla is like Origins in that certain areas are off-limits until you're powerful enough to tackle them. You won't get one shot as in Origins or Odyssey, but the game does encourage you to 'know your limits'. All 3 AC rpg's have this in common - this isn't Skyrim. I have no issue with this at all. The last area in England that I visited had a recommended level of 340 but at 300 I had few issues. I'm also very well geared by this point.

In Valhalla, you get perk points pretty regularly. I actually enjoy the skill system - I like a bit of mystery and having to think carefully about where to put my points. YMMV. In the end it matters little. Just upgrade your gear and weapons and you'll be fine.

If you do the Atlantis dlc the game throws skill points at you at a ridiculous rate towards the end. I guess they wanted you to go out with a bang. Valhalla never gets that ridiculous.

[zarnivop]

Originally posted by MF:

Originally posted by Don:

Don´t really understand this whole level restriction and forced grinding. Since I am far above my required level I do like to explore, maybe I am weird for liking rewards to be at my level.

Valhalla is like Origins in that certain areas are off-limits until you're powerful enough to tackle them. You won't get one shot as in Origins or Odyssey, but the game does encourage you to 'know your limits'. All 3 AC rpg's have this in common - this isn't Skyrim. I have no issue with this at all. The last area in England that I visited had a recommended level of 340 but at 300 I had few issues. I'm also very well geared by this point.

In Valhalla, you get perk points pretty regularly. I actually enjoy the skill system - I like a bit of mystery and having to think carefully about where to put my points. YMMV. In the end it matters little. Just upgrade your gear and weapons and you'll be fine.

If you do the Atlantis dlc the game throws skill points at you at a ridiculous rate towards the end. I guess they wanted you to go out with a bang. Valhalla never gets that ridiculous.

Off topic: I guess by now you finished the underworld? How was it?

[Don Cool]

Originally posted by 🦜Cloud Boy🦜:

Enemies will match your level if you play on Nightmare difficulty, but only the lower enemies will upgraded to your level, not the higher enemies. You need to level up yourself to face the higher enemies. That's the core game-mechanics.

if all the enemies always match your level, then there is no point of leveling system at all.

I got all the enemies to match my level in settings, that´s what I wanted, just didn´t know it existed. The difficulty is still the same, you can play on easy difficulty and have all the enemies be at your level in the zones you are supposed to be in.

Now I am happy.

[zarnivop]

Originally posted by Don:

Now I am happy.

The most important thing. Great!