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A question about Engravings...
So, Long time i'm using this engravings called ''Weapon damage become fire damage''.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2477121687

But i am still confused about how it works and how does it affects other engravings.
For example: Which further engravings give me more damage in this situation.
1. +20% fire damage.
2. +20% damage with swords.
3. +20% warrior damage.

i use swords as my primary weapon btw.
Thanks.
Last edited by 🦜Cloud Boy🦜; May 4, 2021 @ 2:05pm
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LolaCoylyte May 4, 2021 @ 9:15pm 
1. Place the sword on the other hand. It does more damage there.

2. For Total Warrior Damage, the calculation looks like this:

(Warrior Base Damage + Weapon Damage + Warrior Engraving Damage) * ((Weapon Engraving Damage) + (Elemental Engraving Damage)) * (Crit Damage) * (Abilities Damage) * (Armor Penetration)

In your case the priority should be: Weapon Damage, Warrior Damage, and Elemental Damage, in that order. You can calculate this yourself. One by one, equip an item with just one of those three damage types. Make a note of how much warrior damage changes as a result. Choose the winner.

Best wishes
Perplex May 4, 2021 @ 9:33pm 
Originally posted by LolaCoylyte:
1. Place the sword on the other hand. It does more damage there.

2. For Total Warrior Damage, the calculation looks like this:

(Warrior Base Damage + Weapon Damage + Warrior Engraving Damage) * ((Weapon Engraving Damage) + (Elemental Engraving Damage)) * (Crit Damage) * (Abilities Damage) * (Armor Penetration)

In your case the priority should be: Weapon Damage, Warrior Damage, and Elemental Damage, in that order. You can calculate this yourself. One by one, equip an item with just one of those three damage types. Make a note of how much warrior damage changes as a result. Choose the winner.

Best wishes


Swordhand dont matter. You can switch swords by pressing T (not holding it, that brings up the torch).
LolaCoylyte May 5, 2021 @ 12:14am 
Originally posted by Perplex:
Originally posted by LolaCoylyte:
1. Place the sword on the other hand. It does more damage there.

2. For Total Warrior Damage, the calculation looks like this:

(Warrior Base Damage + Weapon Damage + Warrior Engraving Damage) * ((Weapon Engraving Damage) + (Elemental Engraving Damage)) * (Crit Damage) * (Abilities Damage) * (Armor Penetration)

In your case the priority should be: Weapon Damage, Warrior Damage, and Elemental Damage, in that order. You can calculate this yourself. One by one, equip an item with just one of those three damage types. Make a note of how much warrior damage changes as a result. Choose the winner.

Best wishes


Swordhand dont matter. You can switch swords by pressing T (not holding it, that brings up the torch).


Incorrect.

No matter what weapon you employ, It is always stronger on the left hand side.
You can easily test this yourself. Choose any weapon, and move it from right to left. The inventory screen will always display a higher damage value on the left hand side.
Akusa May 5, 2021 @ 11:45pm 
Just tested by swapping weapons and there was no change depending on what hand the weapon was in.
Perplex May 6, 2021 @ 3:37am 
Originally posted by LolaCoylyte:
Originally posted by Perplex:


Swordhand dont matter. You can switch swords by pressing T (not holding it, that brings up the torch).


Incorrect.

No matter what weapon you employ, It is always stronger on the left hand side.
You can easily test this yourself. Choose any weapon, and move it from right to left. The inventory screen will always display a higher damage value on the left hand side.


There is absolutley no difference. I just tested it my self. Same stats on everything.
Gaunter O'Dimm May 6, 2021 @ 9:26pm 
Originally posted by LolaCoylyte:
Originally posted by Perplex:


Swordhand dont matter. You can switch swords by pressing T (not holding it, that brings up the torch).


Incorrect.

No matter what weapon you employ, It is always stronger on the left hand side.
You can easily test this yourself. Choose any weapon, and move it from right to left. The inventory screen will always display a higher damage value on the left hand side.
This only applies when using the glitched Bighorn Bow
LolaCoylyte May 7, 2021 @ 1:01am 
Originally posted by Gaunter O'Dimm:
This only applies when using the glitched Bighorn Bow

Yes, the Bighorn Bow really amplifies the difference. That difference is incredible. Left side warrior damage is nearly double right side warrior damage. Yet even without it, the left side warrior damage is a few percent larger than the right side warrior damage. This is easy to demonstrate.

On the inventory screen strip down to bare handed and no gear. Like this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2479382619

Notice that the left side warrior damage is 40 points higher than the right side.

Add a full set of warrior damage kit, and the left side will be about 200 or so points larger than the right side. Like this:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2478548630

Swap any weapon back and forth, right to left. It will have a higher warrior damage value on the left hand side.

In combat, (because the damage shown on the inventory screen gets multiplied by things like Fire damage, Crit damage, Armor penetration, and the like), the difference grows larger again. Depending on the build, a weapon can be thousands of points stronger when equipped on the left side. But you will never see this if the attack is made on some low health being. If they drop in one stroke from either weapon slot, damage is not being measured.

Rather the attack must be made on a strong character, (a national leader, a polemarch, a mercenary). Someone who does not drop in one stroke. Depending upon the build, weapons equipped on the left side of the inventory screen will cause a few percent more damage than if equipped on the right.
Last edited by LolaCoylyte; May 7, 2021 @ 1:04am
Akusa May 7, 2021 @ 1:22am 
Look, this just isn't the case. Just tried it again, did what you said with and without gear. Both side numbers are identical. I don't know what kind of buggy ♥♥♥♥ you got going on in your game but that's not how it's supposed to be because it's not the same for me and clearly other people because everyone is disagreeing with you.
LolaCoylyte May 7, 2021 @ 6:33am 
Originally posted by Akusa:
Look, this just isn't the case. Just tried it again, did what you said with and without gear. Both side numbers are identical. I don't know what kind of buggy ♥♥♥♥ you got going on in your game but that's not how it's supposed to be because it's not the same for me and clearly other people because everyone is disagreeing with you.


How curious.

This very question pops up in other forums from time to time. Some say it does not ever happen some say it always happens. You can't seem to get it to trigger. I can't get it to not trigger.

I don't see anything pointing to any ability, spear level, progress level, new perks, or anything that will explain it.

I wonder if simply owning the Bighorn Bow makes the difference. The Bighorn Bow is the strongest weapon in the game. It multiplies both left side weapon damage and hunter damage by a huge amount. The bow is mislabeled at the Ubisoft store. It does more than it claims. Plus it is free, provided you have not spent your free Helix credits. If not, it is cheap.

I own the Bighorn bow. No matter what i try, i can't get left side damage to be the same as right side warrior damage to be the same. The left is always bigger. I can't disown the Bighorn bow. So i can't test it.

Perhaps you might be able to do that. Do some relevant screen shots before the purchase, and then some after.

Best wishes

Akusa May 7, 2021 @ 10:41am 
You should see if starting up a new game without equipping that bow and seeing if your numbers are the same or not. Unless just having the bow on your account is enough to mess with it.
tools guy-kun May 7, 2021 @ 3:58pm 
Originally posted by LolaCoylyte:
Originally posted by Akusa:
Look, this just isn't the case. Just tried it again, did what you said with and without gear. Both side numbers are identical. I don't know what kind of buggy ♥♥♥♥ you got going on in your game but that's not how it's supposed to be because it's not the same for me and clearly other people because everyone is disagreeing with you.


How curious.

This very question pops up in other forums from time to time. Some say it does not ever happen some say it always happens. You can't seem to get it to trigger. I can't get it to not trigger.

I don't see anything pointing to any ability, spear level, progress level, new perks, or anything that will explain it.

I wonder if simply owning the Bighorn Bow makes the difference. The Bighorn Bow is the strongest weapon in the game. It multiplies both left side weapon damage and hunter damage by a huge amount. The bow is mislabeled at the Ubisoft store. It does more than it claims. Plus it is free, provided you have not spent your free Helix credits. If not, it is cheap.

I own the Bighorn bow. No matter what i try, i can't get left side damage to be the same as right side warrior damage to be the same. The left is always bigger. I can't disown the Bighorn bow. So i can't test it.

Perhaps you might be able to do that. Do some relevant screen shots before the purchase, and then some after.

Best wishes


Originally posted by Akusa:
You should see if starting up a new game without equipping that bow and seeing if your numbers are the same or not. Unless just having the bow on your account is enough to mess with it.
I don't mean to intrude, but I found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hliawSatsSI

Fast forward to the 1:35 minute mark

Perhaps this may clear up some confusion?
Last edited by tools guy-kun; May 7, 2021 @ 3:59pm
LolaCoylyte May 8, 2021 @ 12:14am 
Originally posted by tools guy-kun:


I don't mean to intrude, but I found this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hliawSatsSI

Fast forward to the 1:35 minute mark

Perhaps this may clear up some confusion?

Yes it does. Thank you.
One more question-
Can more Armor points produce more defense against ranged and elemental attacks such as Arrows and Bombs (or fire arrows / bombs) or Isu magics like Kolosai laser? Thanks.
Last edited by 🦜Cloud Boy🦜; May 8, 2021 @ 8:14am
LolaCoylyte May 10, 2021 @ 7:02am 
Originally posted by 🌈Cloud Boy🌈:
One more question-
Can more Armor points produce more defense against ranged and elemental attacks such as Arrows and Bombs (or fire arrows / bombs) or Isu magics like Kolosai laser? Thanks.


No. For defense you want resistances. Skip the armor. You seem to be far enough in the game to develop a 100% melee resistance build. 90% of the attacks in the game are melee attacks. Just dodge the ranged attacks. Use second life when you miss the dodge.
🦜Cloud Boy🦜 May 10, 2021 @ 3:43pm 
Thank you Mr. LolaCoylyte for the answer.
I don't depend much on Resistance/ Defense, they're just optional. I chose my Equipment / Engravings and Ability points mostly focused on maximum Adrenaline gain. It suits for my play-style best. I use Adrenaline as much as possible. This way i can handle even 10 enemies at once, even on Nightmare Difficulty. My gameplay footage below-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_OYHXGh92qg
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