SPOILER - In dire need of justification regarding Nikolaos

[Cyrus]

So when I first started playing Odyssey I read some posts about "the best" ending and how you need to let Nikolaos live in order to achieve that. When the time came, with that in mind, I let Nikolaos live solely because I wanted to have "the best" ending at the end of the road.

After 130 hours of gameplay I still can't wrap my head around the fact Nikolaos was willing to kill his stepson and stepdaughter. Why would he do that? How does it make sense to let him live, apart from the best ending? I mean when your family needed him the most he basically backstabbed everyone. He let this tragedy happen in the first place. I'm searching for a justification why anyone would let Nikolaos live apart from achieving a particular ending. Because to be honest, looking back, I'm doubting my decision. I hate that bastard for what he has done every single time I see him.

Can anyone please explain or justify why you let Nikolaos live?

[Great Altair]

As told in the game cutscene, there is "NO HONOUR IN TAKING REVENGE BUT IN GIVING FORGIVENESS" and merecenary in those times wanted money and honour, so i think its justified as per me.

[Darth Revan]

of course he was willing to do it, the oracle said it must happen and the word of the oracle was a important thing at this time.

and what happened to the other child was the fault of the child, not the fault of him.

modern day moral and ethics are not really fitting here in my opinion, you have to see the things with a ancient spartan and ancient greek mind set.

[Mujokan]

Yeah, essentially he was tricked by the Cult playing on his traditionalism, he didn't want to do it at the time and regretted it later.

[Mallear]

Also and much more important is the fact that Sparta demanded it. Spartiates were obliged to serve the state first and foremost and afaik the children were taken away from them from a certain age on anyway with no guarantee ob surviving the training they would endure afterwards.

[Darth Revan]

Originally posted by Dr. Hal Emmerich:

Also and much more important is the fact that Sparta demanded it. Spartiates were obliged to serve the state first and foremost and afaik the children were taken away from them from a certain age on anyway with no guarantee ob surviving the training they would endure afterwards.

indeed.

[Mallear]

Also i do not want even to begin dipping into the juristic hassle that the murder of a Spartan citizen by a non Spartiate (you aren't before your training) would cause and that would probably end in the child being killed and the Father banished (best case. Read about ancient laws if you want some more fun judgemetns possible.) with his act he reestablished his Honor. I already forgot how it was depicted ingame but he should also be pretty ashamed for Kinslaying which is not easily taken in the shame-culture of ancient greece.

[Cyrus]

Originally posted by Dr. Hal Emmerich:

Also i do not want even to begin dipping into the juristic hassle that the murder of a Spartan citizen by a non Spartiate (you aren't before your training) would cause and that would probably end in the child being killed and the Father banished (best case. Read about ancient laws if you want some more fun judgemetns possible.) with his act he reestablished his Honor. I already forgot how it was depicted ingame but he should also be pretty ashamed for Kinslaying which is not easily taken in the shame-culture of ancient greece.

Wait. So you weren't considered a Spartan until you completed a particular training? Wasn't being Spartan defined by birth?

[Ogami]

I just killed him, even though i knew that he was needed for the "best" ending.
So what? What he did was unforgivable for my Kassandra so she took her revenge.
I was still satisfied with my ending because it was MY choice.
Dont get this need to play "perfect". Do what you think is right, especially if its an RPG, not what some guide tells you.

[Cyrus]

Originally posted by Ogami:

I just killed him, even though i knew that he was needed for the "best" ending.
So what? What he did was unforgivable for my Kassandra so she took her revenge.
I was still satisfied with my ending because it was MY choice.
Dont get this need to play "perfect". Do what you think is right, especially if its an RPG, not what some guide tells you.

I know and I totally agree with this. It was a stupid thing to do. If I could turn back time I would've handled it very differently. Was afraid killing him would have VERY BAD consequences down the road which I couldn't forsee at the moment. My feeling definitely told me to kill him. I learned from this. Can't wait for New Game for a second playthrough. Cheers friend!

[Ficelle]

I left him alive

Oracle said do this, he had to do it...with no real choice and the whole Sparta supporting the Oracle
I judged him as a man of his time, having to deal with the laws / beliefs / social pressures and morality of his time...not the ones from 2018

Plus, my Kass was already a 'mass' murderer...so, she wasnt really the one to give lessons of morality


I got the happy ending anyway, not even trying...full family lieutenants, ahah
They mostly sux, but it is fun boarding a ship with them all

[Cyrus]

Originally posted by Ficelle:

I left him alive

Oracle said do this, he had to do it...with no real choice and the whole Sparta supporting the Oracle
I judged him as a man of his time, having to deal with the laws / beliefs / social pressures and morality of his time...not the ones from 2018

Plus, my Kass was already a 'mass' murderer...so, she wasnt really the one to give lessons of morality


I got the happy ending anyway, not even trying...full family lieutenants, ahah
They mostly sux, but it is fun boarding a ship with them all

This actually makes a lot of sense. I have to put it into perspective and don't judge it with a 2018-mindset. Glad I can finally justify to myself what I did was somewhat right because it was bothering me the entire playthrough. Plus I didn't know about the possibility of family lieutenants, that's a good additional reason right there to spare him!

[Mujokan]

At that point she would have seen it as patricide, which was a terrible crime -- you end up being pursued by the Furies like Orestes. I played the character as good-hearted, honest and forgiving the whole way through. Just liked the story more that way. Tried not to do any unnecessary killing, though soldiers were another matter, that was war... When mercenaries were chasing me I tried to recruit them and let them go if possible.

[<blank>]

No, killing nikolaos does not justify the pain he causes, it will be a thorn in myrinne's heart that you kill her husband. You will find that forgiving the step father and make the family whole, is the best option for you and your mother. The best ending isnt for the players, but for myrinne.

You have your own destiny, to reunite with your biological father and continue the legacy. Kassandra ending is in the modern day, following her father foot step.

[Ogami]

Originally posted by SilentChill:

No, killing nikolaos does not justify the pain he causes, it will be a thorn in myrinne's heart that you kill her husband.

I did kill him. She does not even mentions it ONCE.
She is like " that life is behind me". She gives ZERO ♥♥♥♥♥.
So i think Myrene will be fine.

[NuclearSnail]

yeah the so called story in this game is really badly written LOL. It's mostly day of our lives who yo daddy crap so I really didn't care. The only bit of story I found interesting was the Atlantice cinimatics and even they are mc-burgered up. I let Nickolaos live the first time around, and have zero interest in replaying this from the beginning again. I had actually beaten the story line days ago and didn't even know it. That's how interesting it is.