Start hunting cultists now or wait?

[Halcyform]

Anyone have an opinion on this?

Seems like all the cultists that I've seen so far all have legendary gear. I'm guessing these guys will scale in level also as you level or do they stay at a set level once you identify them.

If they scale, is it worth it to let them ripen a bit so you don't have to bother considering upgrading their gear later on?

[Dragon]

If you hunt them before you are max level, then the game screws you over big-time, because the legendary gear you get stays at the level when you received it.

If you collect all the pieces of a legendary set, all those pieces automatically scale up to your level, for one-time only.

But, that is a moot point & useless feature, because they almost instantly become useless again, because when you level up once more, the set items don't auto-level-up with you any more.

So therefore, if you hunt cultists before you are max level, then you will get stuck with tons of useless (because it is under-leveled, not because it is inherently useless) obsolete gear that you can't actually use, and that costs a ludicrous fortune to upgrade each piece.

In contrast, if you wait until you are max level before you hunt the cultists, then you receive all the best, max-level gear, which works perfectly fine and that you can actually use, and that you never have to pay anything to upgrade, much less a ludicrous fortune for every single piece.

However, the caveat to what I just said is: you also want to hunt enough cultists to upgrade your spear once more in addition to the first time you get an upgrade as part of the story, as upgrading your spear once more provides massive gameplay benefits (i.e a second melee skill wheel, more adrenaline, access to level 3 skills, etc).

So that's my advice for best practice: hunt just enough cultists to upgrade your spear once more beyond the story upgrade, then stop until you are max level.

All of the stuff I said bespeaks very bad design which should certainly be patched, and I've made thread complaining about it on this board before.

[Halcyform]

Originally posted by Dragon:

If you hunt them before you are max level, then the game screws you over big-time, because the legendary gear you get stays at the level when you received it.

If you collect all the pieces of a legendary set, all those pieces automatically scale up to your level, for one-time only.

But, that is a moot point & useless feature, because they almost instantly become useless again, because when you level up once more, the set items don't auto-level with you any more.

So therefore, if you hunt cultists before you are max level, then you will get stuck with tons of useless (because it is under-leveled, not because it is inherently useless) obsolete gear, that costs a ludicrous fortune to upgrade each piece.

However, you also want to hunt enough cultists to upgrade your spear once more in addition to the first time you get an upgrade as part of the story.

So that's my advice for best practice: hunt just enough cultists to upgrade your spear once more beyond the story upgrade, then stop until you are max level.

All of the stuff I said bespeaks very bad design which should certainly be patched, and I've made thread complaining about it on this board before.

Yeah, it does seem pretty haphazard, which is why I sought out some feedback.

Thanks.

Thinking about it, though, I don't doubt for a second they wanted it this way to maximize the grind. Between this issue and their microtransactions, it's pretty shameless.

[Pantherr]

You do know that you can UPGRADE your gear right...?

[MaddogDino]

I hunted them straight on. Having loads of legendary gear not at your level is going to happen no matter which way you decide. You can't wear it all at once. Just find a set that you like and stick with it, storing everything else on your ship. The cost of upgrading one gear set is high but easily achievable as you lvl.
edit: Waiting until you are top lvl before hunting them is a sure fire massive grindfest in it's own right.

[ＳＨＡＤＯＷ２ＫＫ]

Originally posted by Dragon:

If you hunt them before you are max level, then the game screws you over big-time, because the legendary gear you get stays at the level when you received it.

If you collect all the pieces of a legendary set, all those pieces automatically scale up to your level, for one-time only.

But, that is a moot point & useless feature, because they almost instantly become useless again, because when you level up once more, the set items don't auto-level-up with you any more.

So therefore, if you hunt cultists before you are max level, then you will get stuck with tons of useless (because it is under-leveled, not because it is inherently useless) obsolete gear that you can't actually use, and that costs a ludicrous fortune to upgrade each piece.

In contrast, if you wait until you are max level before you hunt the cultists, then you receive all the best, max-level gear, which works perfectly fine and that you can actually use, and that you never have to pay anything to upgrade, much less a ludicrous fortune for every single piece.

However, the caveat to what I just said is: you also want to hunt enough cultists to upgrade your spear once more in addition to the first time you get an upgrade as part of the story, as upgrading your spear once more provides massive gameplay benefits (i.e a second melee skill wheel, more adrenaline, access to level 3 skills, etc).

So that's my advice for best practice: hunt just enough cultists to upgrade your spear once more beyond the story upgrade, then stop until you are max level.

All of the stuff I said bespeaks very bad design which should certainly be patched, and I've made thread complaining about it on this board before.

Wrong, all legendary gear can be upgraded.

[Halcyform]

Originally posted by Pantherr:

You do know that you can UPGRADE your gear right...?

Yes, I'm aware. The cost for legendary upgrades is pretty crazy, though.

[Halcyform]

Originally posted by MaddogDino:

I hunted them straight on. Having loads of legendary gear not at your level is going to happen no matter which way you decide. You can't wear it all at once. Just find a set that you like and stick with it, storing everything else on your ship. The cost of upgrading one gear set is high but easily achievable as you lvl.
edit: Waiting until you are top lvl before hunting them is a sure fire massive grindfest in it's own right.

Haven't made use of the ship storage yet, but I'm aware it's there.

I've been selling unused epics and dismantling rares and commons.

Still deciding what my later build will be but the reason why I asked for some feedback because I wasn't sure how the gear scaling worked.

I've been been doing mostly what you mentioned but, depending on the legendary set in question, I'm trying to avoid looting them too early unnecessarily. I guess my feedback question wasn't just for cultists but all npcs carrying legendaries.

But, yeah, at some point, I can't just keep avoiding them.

Is there a limit to ship storage?

[FEZ. TF7]

tbh I prefer purple gear for the extra stat boosts so I hunted the cultists down as soon as I could plus they are cheaper to upgrade, I still engraved them with legendary engravings though

[popnlocke]

Play in a way that's fun. You can see which gear you get from a cultist. So when it comes to you needing a piece, like legs you haven't been able to update in a while, hunt a cultist that offers a leg piece. Leveling is going to happen no matter what, and if you wait until you're max level, you're pretty much done with the game. So don't stress about it too much.

[Halcyform]

Originally posted by popnlocke:

You can see which gear you get from a cultist. So when it comes to you needing a piece, like legs you haven't been able to update in a while, hunt a cultist that offers a leg piece.

Good idea. I've done this already by selectively targeting mercs for certain gear pieces when I'm not murdering them for advancement.

Thanks.

[sacros]

Unless you're on a personal mission to try and use every single one of those legendary sets it doesn't matter. Just kill the cultists whenever they're available. For gear sets, every last piece you get will determine the level of that set in your regular playthrough (rest of the pieces get upscaled to that level). Pick a playstyle or two, choose whatever sets and/or weapons you might need for the particular playstyle you've chosen and use/upgrade those.

If you decide to do a ng+; before killing any cultist or whatever drops what legendary, make sure you are lvl99 first. This way they will get scaled to lvl 99 when you get them. But if you're wearing them on you or one of your loadouts / if they're in your inventory when the cultist mission starts, you'll have to collect all pieces instead of one. This eliminates the upgrade cost for ng+.

[sololeif]

Do story first, its pretty short.

[GatyKahn]

Kill them whenever you can, upgrading your weapon is important as the bonus of that weapon are the best boost u can get.

Also for people talking about don't because low level weapons, it doesn't matter. Not like u going to play 30 different builds in the same save file. U probably get 1/2 sets and stick with it.

[Arlen]

Originally posted by Dragon:

If you hunt them before you are max level, then the game screws you over big-time, because the legendary gear you get stays at the level when you received it.

If you collect all the pieces of a legendary set, all those pieces automatically scale up to your level, for one-time only.

But, that is a moot point & useless feature, because they almost instantly become useless again, because when you level up once more, the set items don't auto-level-up with you any more.

So therefore, if you hunt cultists before you are max level, then you will get stuck with tons of useless (because it is under-leveled, not because it is inherently useless) obsolete gear that you can't actually use, and that costs a ludicrous fortune to upgrade each piece.

In contrast, if you wait until you are max level before you hunt the cultists, then you receive all the best, max-level gear, which works perfectly fine and that you can actually use, and that you never have to pay anything to upgrade, much less a ludicrous fortune for every single piece.

However, the caveat to what I just said is: you also want to hunt enough cultists to upgrade your spear once more in addition to the first time you get an upgrade as part of the story, as upgrading your spear once more provides massive gameplay benefits (i.e a second melee skill wheel, more adrenaline, access to level 3 skills, etc).

So that's my advice for best practice: hunt just enough cultists to upgrade your spear once more beyond the story upgrade, then stop until you are max level.

All of the stuff I said bespeaks very bad design which should certainly be patched, and I've made thread complaining about it on this board before.

this is not true - when you acquire the last piece of a set, the entire set automtically levels to whatever the last piece aquired level is at. So, say you get the first piece of the Snake set at level 15, but get the Last piece at level 40 - the entire set is now level 40, this is true for all the sets up to level 50, after level 50, they have a cap on how high the last piece will be, and you will have to upgrade from that cap.

[Viper]

You can only wear one set of armor. Having 10 sets of a high level is not a benefit.